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Kiss on the lips. 14:08 - Aug 30 with 14416 viewsSonofpugwash

Blimey what a palaver.
Never got so much as a peck on the cheek when Penge Salvation Army won the Inter City Faiths Cup beating Sydenham Infidels 2-0 in the final.

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Kiss on the lips. on 18:06 - Aug 31 with 3386 viewsEsox_Lucius

Kiss on the lips. on 17:43 - Aug 31 by numptydumpty

So what you are implying is the manager and the president hand picked pretty young women for their world cup squad and for what reason are you suggesting this.

These pretty young handpicked cuties as you are implying only picked for their looks, they won the world cup.

You need elaborate on your point.

Yes I know nothing about this from the perspective you are suggesting

I was saying should be dealt with not under the world's gaze and quickly and quietly.

it has detracted totally from the real story of their team winning the world cup with style.

And I not at all denigrating it as an unwanted advance but less than 1% of rapes , get reported and only about 30% of those end in a conviction and this although bad is just a kiss. As said my girlfriend was full on rape. I know the difference personally and the impact.

Did you see videos three days before the complaint of all the girls laughing on the bus and joking about it. They did not seem traumatised.

Anyhow the only got in pretty young things, they got selected because they were great at football, world cup winners !! That is really odd thing to say.
[Post edited 31 Aug 2023 17:45]


Wow! what a take. You have posted that without looking into the subject matter. The implication is yours, not mine, I know why the all the old established players refused to play under Vilda. Why would the replacements be traumatised before the incident? Perhaps doing your own research on the background to the incident will allow to come to your own conclusion, rather than rely on my interpretation of the facts.

The grass is always greener.

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Kiss on the lips. on 18:09 - Aug 31 with 3374 viewsJuzzie

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Kiss on the lips. (n/t) on 04:55 - Sep 1 with 3123 viewsnumptydumpty

Kiss on the lips. on 18:06 - Aug 31 by Esox_Lucius

Wow! what a take. You have posted that without looking into the subject matter. The implication is yours, not mine, I know why the all the old established players refused to play under Vilda. Why would the replacements be traumatised before the incident? Perhaps doing your own research on the background to the incident will allow to come to your own conclusion, rather than rely on my interpretation of the facts.


[Post edited 1 Sep 2023 4:56]

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Kiss on the lips. (n/t) on 05:14 - Sep 1 with 3114 viewsnumptydumpty

Kiss on the lips. (n/t) on 04:55 - Sep 1 by numptydumpty

[Post edited 1 Sep 2023 4:56]


ESOX LUCIUS

You didn't read a word of what I said.

I never said it was right.

Your reply is full of unsubstantiated rumours about why a new squad was chosen.
If you have something to say, then please tell. I just said the new squad won the world cup.

I don't have the time to Google on this so please tell or forever hold your peace !!!

And believe it or not, Mr Google is 95% of the time inaccurate!!
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Kiss on the lips. on 08:04 - Sep 1 with 2982 viewskingsburyR

Lets put some perspective on this and the modern public courtroom we live in.

Gary Neville did it to Paul Scholes (don't know how to embed the picture so here's a link ... https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/the-day-pau ) Yet I didn't see the gingers out in force asking for a public hanging.

Guy did wrong in the heat of the moment and should be spoken to about it...then he should of made an apology. Instead...BOOM!

Dont know why we bother. .... but we do!

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Kiss on the lips. (n/t) on 10:04 - Sep 1 with 2862 viewsEsox_Lucius

Kiss on the lips. (n/t) on 05:14 - Sep 1 by numptydumpty

ESOX LUCIUS

You didn't read a word of what I said.

I never said it was right.

Your reply is full of unsubstantiated rumours about why a new squad was chosen.
If you have something to say, then please tell. I just said the new squad won the world cup.

I don't have the time to Google on this so please tell or forever hold your peace !!!

And believe it or not, Mr Google is 95% of the time inaccurate!!
[Post edited 1 Sep 2023 5:32]


"I don't have the time to Google" I call Bullsh!t on that, in the time it took you to reply that don't have time to Google you could have found out easily.
Claims of misogyny.
[Post edited 3 Sep 2023 17:32]

The grass is always greener.

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Kiss on the lips. (n/t) on 12:56 - Sep 1 with 2728 viewsnumptydumpty

Kiss on the lips. (n/t) on 10:04 - Sep 1 by Esox_Lucius

"I don't have the time to Google" I call Bullsh!t on that, in the time it took you to reply that don't have time to Google you could have found out easily.
Claims of misogyny.
[Post edited 3 Sep 2023 17:32]


Comes up with nothing.

No need be abusive

An occasional quote from former player.

But also quotes from others insinuating the opposite. Point being made, googling achieves nothing as does not confirm or deny past histories. Reporting us easily biassed towards one way or another to manipulate minds.

Hence why saying googling there is no point


Am sure he is an unpleasant man but I was highlighting fact this is minor compared to what doesn't get reported or prosecuted in every day life

Full on rapes. And as said which you glossed over , my girlfriend was raped and not reported crime ie too traumatised.

So was not saying it wasn't bad, just in essence to other such actions it's.more minor.

But then you implied.the entire squad almost got changed for Spain because Ribiales sexual harrassment of the players previous, hence why entirely new squad.

Perhaps I would suggest they picked because.they were better players ie they won World Cup.

But you given no evidence of Rubiales sexually harassing previous squad of players and banning them all. I asked you for evidence of this and have googled that also and it has come up as.diddly.squat

Show me that evidence . I have tried find and nothing

You won't though but you will probably say something abusive my way and won't elaborate or show anything you have found

Done this on my lunch break chap and got go back work.

Am.saying I done enough on this and found nowt. Paste your evidence and I will read it and judge.

Good luck to you.
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Kiss on the lips. on 15:55 - Sep 1 with 2561 viewsJuzzie

Guys, give Clive a break.

Stop trying to out-prove each other. It gets nowhere. We see this on so many other threads. No one yields, just the same stance. Wash, rinse, repeat.


Lets just call it quits here eh?


[no one made me king either SoP ;) ]


[Post edited 1 Sep 2023 16:01]
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Kiss on the lips. on 16:07 - Sep 1 with 2525 viewsCLAREMAN1995

Kiss on the lips. on 18:09 - Aug 31 by Juzzie



Great video there Juzzie but is that Clive jumping ship to safety or the way this thread is about to go
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Kiss on the lips. on 16:24 - Sep 1 with 2489 viewsJuzzie

Kiss on the lips. on 16:07 - Sep 1 by CLAREMAN1995

Great video there Juzzie but is that Clive jumping ship to safety or the way this thread is about to go


The latter
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Kiss on the lips. on 20:01 - Sep 1 with 2323 viewsnumptydumpty

Kiss on the lips. on 15:55 - Sep 1 by Juzzie

Guys, give Clive a break.

Stop trying to out-prove each other. It gets nowhere. We see this on so many other threads. No one yields, just the same stance. Wash, rinse, repeat.


Lets just call it quits here eh?


[no one made me king either SoP ;) ]


[Post edited 1 Sep 2023 16:01]


Sorry teacher

But when something is said with no merit or evidence, I do occasionally bite.

Maybe if some of our players enjoyed the odd munch a la Suarez, we could do better !!! šŸ˜†

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Kiss on the lips. on 20:06 - Sep 1 with 2316 viewsJuzzie

Kiss on the lips. on 20:01 - Sep 1 by numptydumpty

Sorry teacher

But when something is said with no merit or evidence, I do occasionally bite.

Maybe if some of our players enjoyed the odd munch a la Suarez, we could do better !!! šŸ˜†


Isnā€™t calling me teacher just as bad as you claiming someone is being abusive to you?
This is how these threads go in circles and descend into childish behaviour.
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Kiss on the lips. on 20:09 - Sep 1 with 2310 viewsnumptydumpty

Kiss on the lips. on 20:06 - Sep 1 by Juzzie

Isnā€™t calling me teacher just as bad as you claiming someone is being abusive to you?
This is how these threads go in circles and descend into childish behaviour.


It was meant to be light hearted.

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Kiss on the lips. on 22:06 - Sep 1 with 2175 viewscharmr

Nice job Numpty of reading the room. Absolutely no need to have opened this debate up considering the temperature of Clives recently post.
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Kiss on the lips. on 22:45 - Sep 1 with 2113 viewsnumptydumpty

Kiss on the lips. on 22:06 - Sep 1 by charmr

Nice job Numpty of reading the room. Absolutely no need to have opened this debate up considering the temperature of Clives recently post.


What was the Clives post.

I not read it.

It's just a debate about a current news story.

Life is about opinions.

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Kiss on the lips. on 22:52 - Sep 1 with 2088 viewsBrianMcCarthy

Kiss on the lips. on 22:45 - Sep 1 by numptydumpty

What was the Clives post.

I not read it.

It's just a debate about a current news story.

Life is about opinions.


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In case you missed it. In fairness, the title meant that a few of us did.

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Kiss on the lips. on 22:54 - Sep 1 with 2072 viewsdistortR

Kiss on the lips. on 14:43 - Aug 31 by Bluce_Ree

F*ck this guy and his mental mum.


Bloody hell, it's all gone off over a kiss, and now you want to f*ck this guy, and his mum?
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Kiss on the lips. on 23:05 - Sep 1 with 2029 viewsnumptydumpty

Kiss on the lips. on 22:52 - Sep 1 by BrianMcCarthy

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In case you missed it. In fairness, the title meant that a few of us did.


I had seen that Brian

Yes like everyone, am glad for Clives work on here and hope he can allow a few others to help as its hard for one person to take full responsibility.

Hope you can Clive and hope you had a decent break.

Always good to recharge.

I learnt the hard way with a previous job and the fall out of too much stress had a long lasting impact.

I guess the football chat and other debates could be separated into different forums but takes time and dedication,

I enjoy being on here myself and yes the Internet can be a jungle.

Good and bad !!!

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Kiss on the lips. on 02:44 - Sep 2 with 1898 viewsBenny_the_Ball

Kiss on the lips. on 17:43 - Aug 31 by numptydumpty

So what you are implying is the manager and the president hand picked pretty young women for their world cup squad and for what reason are you suggesting this.

These pretty young handpicked cuties as you are implying only picked for their looks, they won the world cup.

You need elaborate on your point.

Yes I know nothing about this from the perspective you are suggesting

I was saying should be dealt with not under the world's gaze and quickly and quietly.

it has detracted totally from the real story of their team winning the world cup with style.

And I not at all denigrating it as an unwanted advance but less than 1% of rapes , get reported and only about 30% of those end in a conviction and this although bad is just a kiss. As said my girlfriend was full on rape. I know the difference personally and the impact.

Did you see videos three days before the complaint of all the girls laughing on the bus and joking about it. They did not seem traumatised.

Anyhow the only got in pretty young things, they got selected because they were great at football, world cup winners !! That is really odd thing to say.
[Post edited 31 Aug 2023 17:45]


"less than 1% of rapes get reported..."

Genuine question, as I've never understood such stats and therefore doubt their validity. How on earth would anyone know that 99% of rapes aren't reported if they were never reported? Classic oxymoron.
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Kiss on the lips. on 06:42 - Sep 2 with 1848 viewsPlanetHonneywood

Kiss on the lips. on 02:44 - Sep 2 by Benny_the_Ball

"less than 1% of rapes get reported..."

Genuine question, as I've never understood such stats and therefore doubt their validity. How on earth would anyone know that 99% of rapes aren't reported if they were never reported? Classic oxymoron.


I think his 1% figure is low in terms of reporting, so interesting to hear his source. Maybe he was confusing with only 1.9% of complaints being prosecuted.

Best, and if course, saddest estimates, are: 83% of women and 80% of men do not report rapes; implying 17% and 20% do respectivey. The non-reporting is mainly because of embarrassment, fear of humiliation, or not feeling the police will take seriously.

The stats around rape, sexual assaults, convictions etc., are sobering (see below). It's why ensuring society is confident that it has a proper functioning system, yielding appropriate outcomes, is paramount.

Source - https://rapecrisis.org.uk/get-informed/statistics-sexual-violence/

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Kiss on the lips. on 07:35 - Sep 2 with 1828 viewsJamesB1979

Kiss on the lips. on 08:04 - Sep 1 by kingsburyR

Lets put some perspective on this and the modern public courtroom we live in.

Gary Neville did it to Paul Scholes (don't know how to embed the picture so here's a link ... https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/the-day-pau ) Yet I didn't see the gingers out in force asking for a public hanging.

Guy did wrong in the heat of the moment and should be spoken to about it...then he should of made an apology. Instead...BOOM!


Gary Neville has at best made some ā€œoddā€ reactions to the cases involving Ryan Giggs and Mason Greenwood. Heā€™s somehow managed to escape more scrutiny. He certainly isnā€™t anyone the young kids should like at in terms of treatment and respect towards women.
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Kiss on the lips. on 08:03 - Sep 2 with 1796 viewsFDC

Kiss on the lips. on 02:44 - Sep 2 by Benny_the_Ball

"less than 1% of rapes get reported..."

Genuine question, as I've never understood such stats and therefore doubt their validity. How on earth would anyone know that 99% of rapes aren't reported if they were never reported? Classic oxymoron.


Anonymous surveying by rape support charities or something I should imagine.
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Kiss on the lips. on 13:50 - Sep 2 with 1602 viewsSonofpugwash

Blimey.Never intended this to be so contentious.Was only trying tohave a bit of a larf.Then I remembered what a miserable bunch of woke barstewards there are on here.

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Kiss on the lips. on 14:05 - Sep 2 with 1565 viewsFredManRave

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Kiss on the lips. on 14:16 - Sep 2 with 1532 viewsJuzzie

Kiss on the lips. on 13:50 - Sep 2 by Sonofpugwash

Blimey.Never intended this to be so contentious.Was only trying tohave a bit of a larf.Then I remembered what a miserable bunch of woke barstewards there are on here.


Itā€™s got nothing to do with being woke or not.

As Clive has mentioned on many occasions heā€™s responsible legally for what is said on here.
People canā€™t just go throwing all sorts of comments and accusations etc around especially concerning ongoing legal cases.

Most of the times the opinions are fine but they have a habit of descending rapidly, especially when the likes of Ruusian_Bot/Sakura jump on and thatā€™s when it gets contentious.

But if everyone is happy for Clive to end up in trouble and this site closed down, fill your boots.

Thatā€™s all that people are being askedā€¦. think about what you are saying and the potential consequences.
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