| Mount Rushmore 14:37 - Nov 17 with 3228 views | Boss_Hog |
If you could put any four individuals from the club's history into a Dale themed Mount Rushmore, who would it be and why?
Only condition of entry is a link to the club in some form.
I'll start off with:
Ian Henderson
Gary Jones
David Kilpatrick
Keith Hill
DFK over Fred Ratcliffe as he was before my time, as was the likes of Reg Jenkins.
The rest should be self explanatory. |  | | |  |
| Mount Rushmore on 14:40 - Nov 17 with 3214 views | TalkingSutty |
What's a Mount Rushmore? Edit..googled it. [Post edited 17 Nov 14:45]
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| Mount Rushmore on 14:45 - Nov 17 with 3151 views | TVOS1907 |
| Mount Rushmore on 14:40 - Nov 17 by TalkingSutty |
What's a Mount Rushmore? Edit..googled it. [Post edited 17 Nov 14:45]
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Bet you thought it was, erm, a dodgy film, didn't you? |  |
| When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf? |
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| Mount Rushmore on 14:50 - Nov 17 with 3140 views | TalkingSutty |
| Mount Rushmore on 14:45 - Nov 17 by TVOS1907 |
Bet you thought it was, erm, a dodgy film, didn't you? |
Yes, i phoned Dusty. This is a great idea by the way, it would be more fun if we could have a villians version though and a explanation why?🙂 | | | |
| Mount Rushmore on 14:51 - Nov 17 with 3130 views | 1949er |
Reg Jenkins
Ian Henderson
Bob Stokoe
Paul Simpson ( Before Becoming Manager) | |
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| Mount Rushmore on 14:54 - Nov 17 with 3113 views | TalkingSutty |
David Kilpatrick
Chris Dunphy
Gary Jones
David Clough
The two best Chairman, our iconic captain, the superfan
If there was a mini collective award for a Mount Rushmore then i would give it to Simon Gauge and ALL the other Directors who put in their own money to buy back the shares from MH. They still all need properly recognising for that, especially the ones who have since left the club. [Post edited 17 Nov 15:42]
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| Mount Rushmore on 15:06 - Nov 17 with 3034 views | TVOS1907 |
| Mount Rushmore on 14:54 - Nov 17 by TalkingSutty |
David Kilpatrick
Chris Dunphy
Gary Jones
David Clough
The two best Chairman, our iconic captain, the superfan
If there was a mini collective award for a Mount Rushmore then i would give it to Simon Gauge and ALL the other Directors who put in their own money to buy back the shares from MH. They still all need properly recognising for that, especially the ones who have since left the club. [Post edited 17 Nov 15:42]
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Can't argue with any of those, although I think Keith Hill should replace one of the chairmen just to spread it around a bit, as it were. | |
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| Mount Rushmore on 15:25 - Nov 17 with 2996 views | judd |
Chris Dunphy
Andrew Kelly
David Kilpatrick
David Clough.
Is there a subs bench? [Post edited 17 Nov 15:25]
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| Mount Rushmore on 15:27 - Nov 17 with 2976 views | D_Alien |
On the basis you should only get into Mount Rushmore if you're dead:
Fred Ratcliffe
Reg Jenkins
David Kilpatrick
David Clough
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| Mount Rushmore on 16:32 - Nov 17 with 2842 views | Yorkshire_Dale |
| Mount Rushmore on 15:27 - Nov 17 by D_Alien |
On the basis you should only get into Mount Rushmore if you're dead:
Fred Ratcliffe
Reg Jenkins
David Kilpatrick
David Clough
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What no Moggy? | | | |
| Mount Rushmore on 16:33 - Nov 17 with 2837 views | D_Alien |
Considered Moggy, but edged out for the "fan spot" by Cloughy | |
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| Mount Rushmore on 16:37 - Nov 17 with 2830 views | jonahwhereru |
David Kilpatrick
David Clough
Gary Jones
My left field choice is Jack the kit man
If you want some villian options my four would be
Bottomley
Bottomley
Bottomley
& Bottomley | | | |
| Mount Rushmore on 17:39 - Nov 17 with 2730 views | kel |
| Mount Rushmore on 16:37 - Nov 17 by jonahwhereru |
David Kilpatrick
David Clough
Gary Jones
My left field choice is Jack the kit man
If you want some villian options my four would be
Bottomley
Bottomley
Bottomley
& Bottomley |
May I ask the reasoning behind your fourth choice?
Not the Bottomley ones, obviously. |  | | |
| Mount Rushmore on 01:26 - Nov 18 with 2500 views | Sandyman |
| Mount Rushmore on 16:37 - Nov 17 by jonahwhereru |
David Kilpatrick
David Clough
Gary Jones
My left field choice is Jack the kit man
If you want some villian options my four would be
Bottomley
Bottomley
Bottomley
& Bottomley |
Some superb suggestions to the list of greats.
As for the villains, dug this out from a few years back...
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| Mount Rushmore on 06:40 - Nov 18 with 2430 views | TalkingSutty |
| Mount Rushmore on 17:39 - Nov 17 by kel |
May I ask the reasoning behind your fourth choice?
Not the Bottomley ones, obviously. |
Yes, it's a strange choice that when we're talking about people who shaped the history of the club. I notice Jack is also on the honours list in the programme, a life president or similar. No doubt he's been a good kit man but we have people who've invested a awful lot of their own money to save the club and they are treated like imposters. People like Jamie Sarsfield and Chris Dunphy, our most successful Chairman ever, who made a real difference to the club and are now snubbed and treated like lepers for no reason. They stand wiling to help the club in any way they can, Cameron needs to speak to them.
There's clearly attempts been made to airbrush worthy individuals out of the clubs history and ostracise them from the club. I think thats something Cameron Ogden should be made aware of and is something that should be one of the topics at the fans forum if he is in attendance. No point mentioning it to Simon Gauge. I believe the Trust have approached Simon Gauge about this and Murray Knight is aware but the can is continuously kicked down the road and there's no appetite to reach out to them. George Brigham also banged the drum very loudly but probably ended up frustrated. At the start of a 'New Era' you would like to think that this isn't a vindictive policy, if it is then it's petty and childish and reflects very poorly on the person who should be looking for unity and inclusion. A personal refusal to put the interests of the club first and embrace individuals who have made a real difference to the club and could help him and the club in the process. These are open goals and big wins for the club but somebody within the club is blocking progress and it's harming the Ogdens family football club. The club can't progress with people like that making decisions, carrying grudges and pettiness doesn't belong in football clubs, we're fed up to the back teeth of people like that and i thought the new era and Ogden takeover would have eradicated all that sort of childish stuff from the Boardroom. It is childish and it needs calling out for what it is. It's ridiculous and disrespectful.
Cameron Ogden could do a lot worse than sit in a room for a hour with a mix of maybe a dozen life long Dale fans/ Shareholders and have a full and frank discussion with them to really get a feel of what concerns the fans have. Chris Dunphy lives up the road from the club, they would get on like a house on fire if they had a meet. Make contact and go to his house for a brew, I'm really surprised Cameron hasn't already done that. Instead of just listening to Gauge and his fellow Directors, go and speak to our best Chairman ever who oversaw two promotions and the redevelopment of the stadium and then go and have a pint in the Cemetery with a bunch of fans and listen to their aspirations and concerns. Chris Dunphy and his associates also have relationships with influential people in the Town and the Council, they negotiated with RMBC their investment in the club and also went through the process of getting permission to redevelop the stadium. It's madness that their experience isn't being tapped into by the Ogden family, they will probably help to open doors for them. I'm sure Chris would help and advise in that area if he was aked. Cameron or one of his own Directors needs to make the approach though to ensure it's done in the correct manner. What would they have to lose and I'm certain Chris would help the club in any way he could. [Post edited 18 Nov 8:42]
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| Mount Rushmore on 10:13 - Nov 18 with 2190 views | frenzied |
Excuse my ignorance TS..but whats the issue with Chris and Jamie ? | | | |
| Mount Rushmore on 10:45 - Nov 18 with 2121 views | 100notout |
| Mount Rushmore on 06:40 - Nov 18 by TalkingSutty |
Yes, it's a strange choice that when we're talking about people who shaped the history of the club. I notice Jack is also on the honours list in the programme, a life president or similar. No doubt he's been a good kit man but we have people who've invested a awful lot of their own money to save the club and they are treated like imposters. People like Jamie Sarsfield and Chris Dunphy, our most successful Chairman ever, who made a real difference to the club and are now snubbed and treated like lepers for no reason. They stand wiling to help the club in any way they can, Cameron needs to speak to them.
There's clearly attempts been made to airbrush worthy individuals out of the clubs history and ostracise them from the club. I think thats something Cameron Ogden should be made aware of and is something that should be one of the topics at the fans forum if he is in attendance. No point mentioning it to Simon Gauge. I believe the Trust have approached Simon Gauge about this and Murray Knight is aware but the can is continuously kicked down the road and there's no appetite to reach out to them. George Brigham also banged the drum very loudly but probably ended up frustrated. At the start of a 'New Era' you would like to think that this isn't a vindictive policy, if it is then it's petty and childish and reflects very poorly on the person who should be looking for unity and inclusion. A personal refusal to put the interests of the club first and embrace individuals who have made a real difference to the club and could help him and the club in the process. These are open goals and big wins for the club but somebody within the club is blocking progress and it's harming the Ogdens family football club. The club can't progress with people like that making decisions, carrying grudges and pettiness doesn't belong in football clubs, we're fed up to the back teeth of people like that and i thought the new era and Ogden takeover would have eradicated all that sort of childish stuff from the Boardroom. It is childish and it needs calling out for what it is. It's ridiculous and disrespectful.
Cameron Ogden could do a lot worse than sit in a room for a hour with a mix of maybe a dozen life long Dale fans/ Shareholders and have a full and frank discussion with them to really get a feel of what concerns the fans have. Chris Dunphy lives up the road from the club, they would get on like a house on fire if they had a meet. Make contact and go to his house for a brew, I'm really surprised Cameron hasn't already done that. Instead of just listening to Gauge and his fellow Directors, go and speak to our best Chairman ever who oversaw two promotions and the redevelopment of the stadium and then go and have a pint in the Cemetery with a bunch of fans and listen to their aspirations and concerns. Chris Dunphy and his associates also have relationships with influential people in the Town and the Council, they negotiated with RMBC their investment in the club and also went through the process of getting permission to redevelop the stadium. It's madness that their experience isn't being tapped into by the Ogden family, they will probably help to open doors for them. I'm sure Chris would help and advise in that area if he was aked. Cameron or one of his own Directors needs to make the approach though to ensure it's done in the correct manner. What would they have to lose and I'm certain Chris would help the club in any way he could. [Post edited 18 Nov 8:42]
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Excellent post TS | |
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| Mount Rushmore on 11:41 - Nov 18 with 2042 views | TalkingSutty |
| Mount Rushmore on 10:13 - Nov 18 by frenzied |
Excuse my ignorance TS..but whats the issue with Chris and Jamie ? |
Well you will be aware of their fantastic contribution to the club, neither of them did it for recognition but when others at the club are being recognised and awarded honorary positions at the club then these two as a example should certainly be. They should be welcomed and given the same matchday privileges as any other serving Director, or those previous. The fact that they haven't takes some explaining, neither of them feel welcomed and nobody at the club has reached out to them. It could be rectified straight away but the person who makes all the decisions at the club has chosen not to do so. As i said, the Trust have tried to rectify this wrong. We have a Trust Ditector in the Boardroom but still nothing happens. It's like the rest of the club, nothings changed has it. We have new Directors in the Boardroom, when are they going to get a grip of the club and ensure good people like Chris Dunphy and Jamie Sarsfield are treated properly? [Post edited 18 Nov 11:43]
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| Mount Rushmore on 11:52 - Nov 18 with 1989 views | TalkingSutty |
| Mount Rushmore on 10:45 - Nov 18 by 100notout |
Excellent post TS |
It's a post born out of frustration. I honestly feel like finding out where Cameron lives and going down to see him face to face, a suggestion I've put to others. I'm fed up with individuals in high places holding petty grudges and putting their own personal agendas before the football club. We want a club that treats everybody with respect don't we and one that pulls everybody together for the good of the club. We have a wonderful opportunity to make this club good with the Ogden family and any individual who isn't on board with that needs to be replaced. I'm also fed up with our Supporters Trust pussy footing around Simon Gauge and that includes the Trust representative on the board..subservient the lot of them and bloody frightened to death of upsetting him. [Post edited 18 Nov 12:12]
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| Mount Rushmore on 15:45 - Nov 18 with 1675 views | Duckegg |
Chris Dunphy.
Keith Hill.
Gary Jones.
David Clough. |  | | |
| Mount Rushmore on 16:43 - Nov 18 with 1564 views | turnthescrew |
| Mount Rushmore on 11:52 - Nov 18 by TalkingSutty |
It's a post born out of frustration. I honestly feel like finding out where Cameron lives and going down to see him face to face, a suggestion I've put to others. I'm fed up with individuals in high places holding petty grudges and putting their own personal agendas before the football club. We want a club that treats everybody with respect don't we and one that pulls everybody together for the good of the club. We have a wonderful opportunity to make this club good with the Ogden family and any individual who isn't on board with that needs to be replaced. I'm also fed up with our Supporters Trust pussy footing around Simon Gauge and that includes the Trust representative on the board..subservient the lot of them and bloody frightened to death of upsetting him. [Post edited 18 Nov 12:12]
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The constant exclusion of CD, JS and maybe others is a counter-productive, and in my view, a spiteful act. Each have made huge personal contributions to the club, each of them could offer great experience and knowledge as the club go forward, but to the detriment of the club, this isn't being allowed to happen.
People need their collective heads banging together to get it sorted. It's childish and petty and the club is the loser from all this. If there is anyone sat on the top table who can find a solution they should be working hard to do it. There is no place for spite if we wish to progress. It's corrosive and it needs to stop. | | | |
| Mount Rushmore on 17:34 - Nov 19 with 1045 views | Dale_4_Life |
I would offer two suggestions... One exclusively players.
Chris Dunphy
Andrew Kelly
Fred Ratcliffe
David Clough
And a players version - Hilly gets in as an ex player but for obvious reasons also Manager.
Keith Hill
Gary Jones
Ian Henderson
Lyndon Simmonds | | | |
| Mount Rushmore on 17:44 - Nov 19 with 1024 views | SuddenLad |
For non-playing legends, it would be as follows:
David Clough
David Kilpatrick
Franny Hall
Fred Jones ("Get some wingers on Richley") |  |
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| Mount Rushmore on 23:02 - Nov 19 with 773 views | pioneer |
| Mount Rushmore on 17:44 - Nov 19 by SuddenLad |
For non-playing legends, it would be as follows:
David Clough
David Kilpatrick
Franny Hall
Fred Jones ("Get some wingers on Richley") |
Joy to see the day when Franny Hall would mount rushmore. Was rushmore a bus driver? | | | |
| Mount Rushmore on 12:58 - Nov 21 with 248 views | ChaffRAFC |
Keith Hill
Gary Jones
Ian Henderson
David Clough |  |
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