| 🔴 Likely candidates for the Swans job 19:37 - Feb 17 with 78923 views | KeithHaynes |
Let’s start with the ones who are way out of their depth.
Rob Page
Garry Monk.
The Swans need to be focussed and a proper manager who knows the Championship and has been successful is the only answer. Quit dreaming about idiots 👍 |  |
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| 🔴 Likely candidates for the Swans job on 14:04 - Apr 13 with 3099 views | onehunglow |
| 🔴 Likely candidates for the Swans job on 12:03 - Apr 13 by RuDeMan1970 |
100% agree. We’ve all spoken about having a manager who’s ‘the right fit’ for the club and IMHO that’s exactly what Sheehan is. OK he’s no Martin or Williams in front of the camera but, thankfully, he’s no Martin or Williams with his product on the pitch either. He graciously lets his team do the talking on the grass. And that’s what it’s all about. No obsession with stats. No BS. No brainer. |
Sheehan is a coach
The others ! |  |
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| 🔴 Likely candidates for the Swans job on 14:45 - Apr 13 with 2998 views | RuDeMan1970 |
| 🔴 Likely candidates for the Swans job on 14:04 - Apr 13 by onehunglow |
Sheehan is a coach
The others ! |
Coach / Manager / Man in charge of the players / Person in charge of the players / Gaffer / Boss / Whatever Sheehan was / is, he’s doing a great job. |  |
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| 🔴 Likely candidates for the Swans job on 09:00 - Apr 14 with 2673 views | STID2017 |
Sheehan , Sheehan and Sheehan
Should be the only names in the frame |  |
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| 🔴 Likely candidates for the Swans job on 10:43 - Apr 14 with 2585 views | Azzuriswan |
Give the job to AS he has proved that he is worth a shot. Who else is available? Brendan Rogers was a nobody when he came to us ...look at him now | | | |
| 🔴 Likely candidates for the Swans job on 23:06 - Apr 14 with 2201 views | Dr_Winston |
I'm not going to lie and say that I always wanted Sheehan to get the job because I haven't. People can probably track back through this thread for confirmation.
I have definitely shifted to the point of view that I wouldn't be remotely disappointed if he did. |  |
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| 🔴 Likely candidates for the Swans job on 06:15 - Apr 15 with 2071 views | Whiterockin |
| 🔴 Likely candidates for the Swans job on 23:06 - Apr 14 by Dr_Winston |
I'm not going to lie and say that I always wanted Sheehan to get the job because I haven't. People can probably track back through this thread for confirmation.
I have definitely shifted to the point of view that I wouldn't be remotely disappointed if he did. |
I agree. In the beginning I thought of him as just the cheap option but he has proved me wrong and he deserves a shot at the job. I really don't want him being snapped up by another club and us regretting it. |  | | |
| 🔴 Likely candidates for the Swans job on 08:18 - Apr 15 with 1934 views | Dr_Winston |
| 🔴 Likely candidates for the Swans job on 06:15 - Apr 15 by Whiterockin |
I agree. In the beginning I thought of him as just the cheap option but he has proved me wrong and he deserves a shot at the job. I really don't want him being snapped up by another club and us regretting it. |
After what it cost us to recruit and/or dispense with Martin, Duff and Williams I didn't mind a cheap option. Going expensive hasn't really worked for us in recent history.
I did want someone with more experience and a better track record behind them and if I'm honest, a complete clean sweep of the coaches that had been here since the Martinball era would have pleased me too.
However, he's doing a lot of work to change my mind. Still a few things that I'd nitpick at, but you can't sniff at the results he's getting. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| 🔴 Likely candidates for the Swans job on 09:26 - Apr 15 with 1826 views | onehunglow |
| 🔴 Likely candidates for the Swans job on 14:45 - Apr 13 by RuDeMan1970 |
Coach / Manager / Man in charge of the players / Person in charge of the players / Gaffer / Boss / Whatever Sheehan was / is, he’s doing a great job. |
We move on
I always amazed at home replacing underperforming coaches has such a profound effect almost immediately
In PL , David Moyes a perfect example
Clearly , prevaricating over Lukey has cost us dearly but not as deeply as Russy
Sheehan can and would learn
He wants to
You can't teach someone who thinks he knows it all | |
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| 🔴 Likely candidates for the Swans job on 11:13 - Apr 15 with 1748 views | jack247 |
| 🔴 Likely candidates for the Swans job on 23:06 - Apr 14 by Dr_Winston |
I'm not going to lie and say that I always wanted Sheehan to get the job because I haven't. People can probably track back through this thread for confirmation.
I have definitely shifted to the point of view that I wouldn't be remotely disappointed if he did. |
This is where I’m at too.
I was dead against it after the Derby game. The week since has changed my mind. Still not at the stage I think he’s a generational manager, but I don’t think he could have turned us around any more emphatically, in terms of results, performances and attitude. | | | |
| 🔴 Likely candidates for the Swans job on 12:53 - Apr 15 with 1608 views | RichardO |
| 🔴 Likely candidates for the Swans job on 11:13 - Apr 15 by jack247 |
This is where I’m at too.
I was dead against it after the Derby game. The week since has changed my mind. Still not at the stage I think he’s a generational manager, but I don’t think he could have turned us around any more emphatically, in terms of results, performances and attitude. |
Sheehan has seen the managers before him struggle to adapt the team/Squad to get consistent results with a very similar squad as in place now, there have been injuries with the previous managers but they seemed unable to learn from their successes and their mistakes, Alan Sheehan after his first covering stint seemed to do a good job but didn't get the chance to prove himself and maybe needed more experience then anyway. This stint he has he has had time to turned things around, the team being competitive in every game.
We have struggled at times to break down teams who have a solid defence and struggled to get back into games against Burnley and Watford who scored early in the game often via our own mistakes.
Not sure I want to see clearances when under pressure of aimless balls into space although it allows us to regroup I would rather see even lone strikers being fed the ball or able to compete for the ball when cleared into space, as under Cooper the clearance towards the end of his last season seem a bit desperate and often meant pressure builds and something gives.
The only reason to not give Alan Sheehan the job now is to see if he can maintain a good run of games until the end of the season, there may be losses as games at the end of the season are hard to predict and team may be desperate for points at either end of the table and some teams may be in a position to try to blood new players and new tactics.
I would like a win early out of the four to secure Championship status enabling Sheehan time to look at youngsters in competitive games before the friendlies start next season, would that early win then allow a decision on his future to be made that much earlier? | | | |
| 🔴 Likely candidates for the Swans job on 13:11 - Apr 15 with 1562 views | jack247 |
| 🔴 Likely candidates for the Swans job on 12:53 - Apr 15 by RichardO |
Sheehan has seen the managers before him struggle to adapt the team/Squad to get consistent results with a very similar squad as in place now, there have been injuries with the previous managers but they seemed unable to learn from their successes and their mistakes, Alan Sheehan after his first covering stint seemed to do a good job but didn't get the chance to prove himself and maybe needed more experience then anyway. This stint he has he has had time to turned things around, the team being competitive in every game.
We have struggled at times to break down teams who have a solid defence and struggled to get back into games against Burnley and Watford who scored early in the game often via our own mistakes.
Not sure I want to see clearances when under pressure of aimless balls into space although it allows us to regroup I would rather see even lone strikers being fed the ball or able to compete for the ball when cleared into space, as under Cooper the clearance towards the end of his last season seem a bit desperate and often meant pressure builds and something gives.
The only reason to not give Alan Sheehan the job now is to see if he can maintain a good run of games until the end of the season, there may be losses as games at the end of the season are hard to predict and team may be desperate for points at either end of the table and some teams may be in a position to try to blood new players and new tactics.
I would like a win early out of the four to secure Championship status enabling Sheehan time to look at youngsters in competitive games before the friendlies start next season, would that early win then allow a decision on his future to be made that much earlier? |
It’s already secured mate.
Luton and Plymouth can’t catch us. Cardiff would have to win every game while we’d have to lose all of ours.
A point would make it mathematical. | | | |
| 🔴 Likely candidates for the Swans job on 13:13 - Apr 15 with 1559 views | ncswan |
| 🔴 Likely candidates for the Swans job on 12:53 - Apr 15 by RichardO |
Sheehan has seen the managers before him struggle to adapt the team/Squad to get consistent results with a very similar squad as in place now, there have been injuries with the previous managers but they seemed unable to learn from their successes and their mistakes, Alan Sheehan after his first covering stint seemed to do a good job but didn't get the chance to prove himself and maybe needed more experience then anyway. This stint he has he has had time to turned things around, the team being competitive in every game.
We have struggled at times to break down teams who have a solid defence and struggled to get back into games against Burnley and Watford who scored early in the game often via our own mistakes.
Not sure I want to see clearances when under pressure of aimless balls into space although it allows us to regroup I would rather see even lone strikers being fed the ball or able to compete for the ball when cleared into space, as under Cooper the clearance towards the end of his last season seem a bit desperate and often meant pressure builds and something gives.
The only reason to not give Alan Sheehan the job now is to see if he can maintain a good run of games until the end of the season, there may be losses as games at the end of the season are hard to predict and team may be desperate for points at either end of the table and some teams may be in a position to try to blood new players and new tactics.
I would like a win early out of the four to secure Championship status enabling Sheehan time to look at youngsters in competitive games before the friendlies start next season, would that early win then allow a decision on his future to be made that much earlier? |
I agree that an early win would allow Sheehan to play, to "experiment", with younger players. I like that and I think management would buy into doing that. But I don't think the Swans can afford to gamble on waiting to sign him on a permanent basis, waiting until the end of the season. That only gives time to other clubs in making up their minds to make him an offer.
Give him the job now! He deserves it now! By doing this it may be the move to win Darling to commit his future with the Swans. | | | |
| 🔴 Likely candidates for the Swans job on 13:27 - Apr 15 with 1529 views | TimBowen |
For many years I've broken down a season into groups of 5 matches.
5 matches x 9 clumps = 45 matches + 1.
Attaining 9 points from each of those 9 game groups, gave us 81 points + 1 more match. Which most seasons would equate to automatic promotion, or, most certainly, seriously challenging for it.
Sheehan has been in charge for 9 games (20% of our season). Turn the maths around, and say 9 matches x 5 groups + 1 extra.
To date he's achieved 17 points from his 9 matches in charge. 17 x 5 = 85 points. With one last game to play.
So based on those figures, after playing 42 games in a season, we'd have gained 77.6 points to date. Putting us a point ahead of Sunderland in fourth place.
I know...for clubs at our level of financial clout, up against parachute funded, newly Premier League relegated clubs, those stats don't always pan out in the way described.
However, you have to say, if we'd only dispensed with Williams earlier, and achieved ONLY TWO WINS in January, we'd now all be talking excitedly about the prospect of a Play/Off ending season.
The margins are that close.
I too, like many have posted, was reluctant to commit to Sheehan taking the role. Was this a new manager's 'bounce' etc. But I think he's most certainly convinced a most sceptical fanbase, based on recent years' performances, that he surely deserves at least a year's contract? |  | | |
| 🔴 Likely candidates for the Swans job on 14:39 - Apr 15 with 1422 views | Dr_Winston |
| 🔴 Likely candidates for the Swans job on 13:27 - Apr 15 by TimBowen |
For many years I've broken down a season into groups of 5 matches.
5 matches x 9 clumps = 45 matches + 1.
Attaining 9 points from each of those 9 game groups, gave us 81 points + 1 more match. Which most seasons would equate to automatic promotion, or, most certainly, seriously challenging for it.
Sheehan has been in charge for 9 games (20% of our season). Turn the maths around, and say 9 matches x 5 groups + 1 extra.
To date he's achieved 17 points from his 9 matches in charge. 17 x 5 = 85 points. With one last game to play.
So based on those figures, after playing 42 games in a season, we'd have gained 77.6 points to date. Putting us a point ahead of Sunderland in fourth place.
I know...for clubs at our level of financial clout, up against parachute funded, newly Premier League relegated clubs, those stats don't always pan out in the way described.
However, you have to say, if we'd only dispensed with Williams earlier, and achieved ONLY TWO WINS in January, we'd now all be talking excitedly about the prospect of a Play/Off ending season.
The margins are that close.
I too, like many have posted, was reluctant to commit to Sheehan taking the role. Was this a new manager's 'bounce' etc. But I think he's most certainly convinced a most sceptical fanbase, based on recent years' performances, that he surely deserves at least a year's contract? |
The question then is would he accept a years contract? Brendan took one, but he'd recently been sacked and his stock was fairly low. At the moment Sheehan's is quite high and he'll be aware of it.
IF we want him permanently then we're going to have to offer at least two years IMO. More likely three, which is fairly standard. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| 🔴 Likely candidates for the Swans job on 14:45 - Apr 15 with 1408 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| 🔴 Likely candidates for the Swans job on 14:39 - Apr 15 by Dr_Winston |
The question then is would he accept a years contract? Brendan took one, but he'd recently been sacked and his stock was fairly low. At the moment Sheehan's is quite high and he'll be aware of it.
IF we want him permanently then we're going to have to offer at least two years IMO. More likely three, which is fairly standard. |
Swansea could lose the next four games and sentimental changes. What does Modric think about Sheehan's works and will help involve himself in any decision.
Did he join Swansea with a new boss who he knows in mind?
In terms of the ownership his experience dwarfs anyone else in the ownership group. Did he become aware of Swansea out of contacts Swansea board made with regard to the current vacant job starting next season.
I suspect he had his views but it depends how pro active he wants to be recognising he is not in day to day contract with the club as Montague is . |  |
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| 🔴 Likely candidates for the Swans job on 15:24 - Apr 15 with 1331 views | Whiterockin |
| 🔴 Likely candidates for the Swans job on 14:39 - Apr 15 by Dr_Winston |
The question then is would he accept a years contract? Brendan took one, but he'd recently been sacked and his stock was fairly low. At the moment Sheehan's is quite high and he'll be aware of it.
IF we want him permanently then we're going to have to offer at least two years IMO. More likely three, which is fairly standard. |
We will need to make it three to enable a decent buyout to be in place. The devil will be in the detail but he should be signed up by now. | | | |
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