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Leeds Reflection 14:52 - Mar 15 with 10310 viewsbluenwhite10

A great game today and I honestly felt Rangers did well against good side and even more so when you consider how many players where out injured.

Yes Leeds did have lots of possession but I can’t really remember Nardi making many and if any saves.

I think the move if Edwards into midfield was the right move today and I can see that remaining until Varanne gets back.

The timing of the Leeds 1st goal was a killer and looking bqck it was rightly given.

Was pleased with the draw as I could only see one winner and would have took that before the game.

Saito Red card was harsh and someone might need to explain to me how it was worse than the one on Smyth by Struijk, but the official where poor all day. MOM tough one to callas some very good battling displays but Dunne I guess. Come on you R’s
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Leeds Reflection on 15:11 - Mar 15 with 5652 viewsstainrods_elbow

Disagree on all points. A 'great' game - really? It was a typical, stop-start, low-quality Champ encounter for me, with the top team showing they're not that good.

The Leeds player for their goal was clearly interfering, assuming he didn't touch the ball, which he may have. Cook was right to appeal as vociferously as he did.

The Saito challenge was a nasty, pre-meditated, targeted kung-fu chop. Didn't seem that dismayed when he saw the card was red. Marti should have seen him into the dressing room with a flea in his ear not an arm round his shoulder. Says a lot for me.

We didn't play very well, two decent goals apart, but, as I say, Leeds weren't good enough to follow through once we'd let them back in. A draw just about summed up an otherwise underwhelming game, but I guess it's an improvement on recent showings, and I'm sure Cifuentes wil be emphasising the positives.
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Leeds Reflection on 15:23 - Mar 15 with 5607 viewsWegerles_Stairs

Yeah, really enjoyed that. Colback and Dunne both very good. Still think Marti is slow to make substitutions. Such an important summer coming up in terms of a rebuild. I hope we are signing some more like Jimmy - the physical side is so important in this league.
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Leeds Reflection on 15:26 - Mar 15 with 5573 viewsStanisgod

Leeds Reflection on 15:11 - Mar 15 by stainrods_elbow

Disagree on all points. A 'great' game - really? It was a typical, stop-start, low-quality Champ encounter for me, with the top team showing they're not that good.

The Leeds player for their goal was clearly interfering, assuming he didn't touch the ball, which he may have. Cook was right to appeal as vociferously as he did.

The Saito challenge was a nasty, pre-meditated, targeted kung-fu chop. Didn't seem that dismayed when he saw the card was red. Marti should have seen him into the dressing room with a flea in his ear not an arm round his shoulder. Says a lot for me.

We didn't play very well, two decent goals apart, but, as I say, Leeds weren't good enough to follow through once we'd let them back in. A draw just about summed up an otherwise underwhelming game, but I guess it's an improvement on recent showings, and I'm sure Cifuentes wil be emphasising the positives.
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Quite enjoyed it myself.

It's being so happy that keeps me going.

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Leeds Reflection on 15:38 - Mar 15 with 5468 viewsstevec

Leeds Reflection on 15:11 - Mar 15 by stainrods_elbow

Disagree on all points. A 'great' game - really? It was a typical, stop-start, low-quality Champ encounter for me, with the top team showing they're not that good.

The Leeds player for their goal was clearly interfering, assuming he didn't touch the ball, which he may have. Cook was right to appeal as vociferously as he did.

The Saito challenge was a nasty, pre-meditated, targeted kung-fu chop. Didn't seem that dismayed when he saw the card was red. Marti should have seen him into the dressing room with a flea in his ear not an arm round his shoulder. Says a lot for me.

We didn't play very well, two decent goals apart, but, as I say, Leeds weren't good enough to follow through once we'd let them back in. A draw just about summed up an otherwise underwhelming game, but I guess it's an improvement on recent showings, and I'm sure Cifuentes wil be emphasising the positives.
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When you say ‘The Saito challenge was a nasty, pre-meditated, targeted kung-fu chop’ I’m surprised you didn’t mention the samurai sword he was carrying in his loincloth.

Ye gods.
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Leeds Reflection on 15:41 - Mar 15 with 5448 viewsfrancisbowles

Leeds Reflection on 15:11 - Mar 15 by stainrods_elbow

Disagree on all points. A 'great' game - really? It was a typical, stop-start, low-quality Champ encounter for me, with the top team showing they're not that good.

The Leeds player for their goal was clearly interfering, assuming he didn't touch the ball, which he may have. Cook was right to appeal as vociferously as he did.

The Saito challenge was a nasty, pre-meditated, targeted kung-fu chop. Didn't seem that dismayed when he saw the card was red. Marti should have seen him into the dressing room with a flea in his ear not an arm round his shoulder. Says a lot for me.

We didn't play very well, two decent goals apart, but, as I say, Leeds weren't good enough to follow through once we'd let them back in. A draw just about summed up an otherwise underwhelming game, but I guess it's an improvement on recent showings, and I'm sure Cifuentes wil be emphasising the positives.
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Missing the game as out of the country but watching on Sky, I thought it was an exciting game. I thought we played well, much better than recently. The effort and fight weren't lacking today.

I agree with you on the first Leeds goal. It deflected off Fox. He didn't try to play it and therefore the Leeds player on the goal line was offside as he attempted to play the ball, even if he didn't get a touch.

Saito, for me, was an enthusiastic, if unwise, launch at the ball. He knew he got it wrong and it was a red. Unfortunately the ref had a much better view of it than we did on first look.

I think a little more positive and less negative needed from you when we have a decent result and improved performance.🤔😁
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Leeds Reflection on 17:35 - Mar 15 with 4957 viewsNorthantsHoop

Decent game, in the first half we actually converted the only chances we had. Always felt if we went ahead and a bonus to get two ahead would not lose and so it proved. Overall draw a fair result and at the end Leeds could have snatched it. From where I was in upper loft thought Saito's sending off was a bit harsh, will need to look at it on playback to see if that is the case.
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Leeds Reflection on 17:49 - Mar 15 with 4825 viewswortonr

Leeds Reflection on 17:35 - Mar 15 by NorthantsHoop

Decent game, in the first half we actually converted the only chances we had. Always felt if we went ahead and a bonus to get two ahead would not lose and so it proved. Overall draw a fair result and at the end Leeds could have snatched it. From where I was in upper loft thought Saito's sending off was a bit harsh, will need to look at it on playback to see if that is the case.


Thought it was a terrific game! Seems like some on here just live to be miserable..so I Spose the Rangers are an obvious choice ! One example ..I thought Frey was fantastic. Gave everything for the shirt out there. Well done my team.
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Leeds Reflection on 17:53 - Mar 15 with 4780 viewsRsole

It was a significant improvement over recent games in terms of effort, finishing and entertainment.

IMO, Smyth makes a big difference in our system as well as providing pace and tracking back. Not sure why he was subbed - would have removed Andersen first and used Dembele centrally - probably why I’m not a coach/manager.

Saito’s sending off looked harsh live but it was a clear foul on replay. Out of character but the ref was right there and I can understand why it was given as red. Studs up, off the ground, lunging in, out of control = red. None of our players really complained.

We should have made more of Struik’s continued fouls but we said bugger all to the ref.

Wouldn’t it have been great if we’d had someone like Kelman on the bench for Frey ? I hope we take him back and can send Alfie out for a season.

Those possessed by devils, try and keep them under control a bit, can't you ?

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Leeds Reflection on 17:55 - Mar 15 with 4769 viewsmart_Goblin

Leeds Reflection on 15:38 - Mar 15 by stevec

When you say ‘The Saito challenge was a nasty, pre-meditated, targeted kung-fu chop’ I’m surprised you didn’t mention the samurai sword he was carrying in his loincloth.

Ye gods.


The lack of self awareness is incredible isn’t ?
On another thread , someone criticises Paal and he accuses them of having a ‘murky agenda’.
He did the same 3 weeks ago as he’d run out of points to win an argument and it’s unacceptable ti do so.
Apart from the vaguely racist stereotyping he has his Asian cultures and martial arts mixed up .

Clown shoes
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Leeds Reflection on 18:02 - Mar 15 with 4696 viewsHastings_Hoops

Leeds Reflection on 15:11 - Mar 15 by stainrods_elbow

Disagree on all points. A 'great' game - really? It was a typical, stop-start, low-quality Champ encounter for me, with the top team showing they're not that good.

The Leeds player for their goal was clearly interfering, assuming he didn't touch the ball, which he may have. Cook was right to appeal as vociferously as he did.

The Saito challenge was a nasty, pre-meditated, targeted kung-fu chop. Didn't seem that dismayed when he saw the card was red. Marti should have seen him into the dressing room with a flea in his ear not an arm round his shoulder. Says a lot for me.

We didn't play very well, two decent goals apart, but, as I say, Leeds weren't good enough to follow through once we'd let them back in. A draw just about summed up an otherwise underwhelming game, but I guess it's an improvement on recent showings, and I'm sure Cifuentes wil be emphasising the positives.
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I suppose the other half of how good a match was depends on your match day experience at the game.
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Leeds Reflection on 18:07 - Mar 15 with 4646 viewsWilkinswatercarrier

Considering the injuries a descent result, but still a poor game to watch. And yes, I was there, as always. Lots of huffing and puffing, but very little quality. No one able to put there foot on the ball and actually play a quality pass.
Just very 'meh'.

And the gap to the bottom 3 is now 7 points.
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Leeds Reflection on 19:22 - Mar 15 with 4313 viewsQPRConor2000

Leeds Reflection on 15:11 - Mar 15 by stainrods_elbow

Disagree on all points. A 'great' game - really? It was a typical, stop-start, low-quality Champ encounter for me, with the top team showing they're not that good.

The Leeds player for their goal was clearly interfering, assuming he didn't touch the ball, which he may have. Cook was right to appeal as vociferously as he did.

The Saito challenge was a nasty, pre-meditated, targeted kung-fu chop. Didn't seem that dismayed when he saw the card was red. Marti should have seen him into the dressing room with a flea in his ear not an arm round his shoulder. Says a lot for me.

We didn't play very well, two decent goals apart, but, as I say, Leeds weren't good enough to follow through once we'd let them back in. A draw just about summed up an otherwise underwhelming game, but I guess it's an improvement on recent showings, and I'm sure Cifuentes wil be emphasising the positives.
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You can tell the difference between people being at the game and who wasn't.

Thought we definitely played well today, disappointed with the result a bit but performance wise we were better.

Think Marti moving Edwards to DM was a good move, thought he managed that area pretty well today.

I don't agree on it being a low quality encounter, 3 goals in the first half tells you that it was a very good game.

Was in the South Africa upper so I got to see a good view of the red card, think the red was harsh personally.

But ether way, got a two week break now and hopefully Kolli and Celar being back does at least give us a bit more options up front, next 3 games are against Stoke away, Cardiff at home and Oxford away.

I do think 2 more wins and we should be fine, but they are definitely going to be tough ones as they're all fighting for their lives.
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Leeds Reflection on 19:26 - Mar 15 with 4277 viewsdaveB

I thought we were really good, enjoyed the game, draw was probably a fair result although first goal looked well offside even if he doesn't end up touching it they are clearly holding a line to play him offside.

Sending off was a yellow for me but what was Paal doing with that free kick, bonkers pass that one

A good point against a good side, onto the next one
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Leeds Reflection on 19:31 - Mar 15 with 4229 viewsNorthantsHoop

Leeds Reflection on 18:07 - Mar 15 by Wilkinswatercarrier

Considering the injuries a descent result, but still a poor game to watch. And yes, I was there, as always. Lots of huffing and puffing, but very little quality. No one able to put there foot on the ball and actually play a quality pass.
Just very 'meh'.

And the gap to the bottom 3 is now 7 points.


Yes the gap to the bottom 3 is shortening, a little worrying, we have lost the knack of winning games, maybe the international break might be the reset we need i.e. last time there was a break we lost to Leeds then had the break and we came back and went on a positive run.
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Leeds Reflection on 19:42 - Mar 15 with 4174 viewscuppahoop

Leeds Reflection on 15:26 - Mar 15 by Stanisgod

Quite enjoyed it myself.


Plus 1,they all pulled on the shirt & put in a shift today, even Madsen got a foot in & won a header when he came on unless my aging eyes deceived me ..?
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Leeds Reflection on 19:48 - Mar 15 with 4113 viewsRsole

Leeds Reflection on 19:42 - Mar 15 by cuppahoop

Plus 1,they all pulled on the shirt & put in a shift today, even Madsen got a foot in & won a header when he came on unless my aging eyes deceived me ..?


At one point, he even sprinted 5 yards - it was otherworldly

Those possessed by devils, try and keep them under control a bit, can't you ?

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Leeds Reflection on 19:50 - Mar 15 with 4084 viewsSteveB

Leeds Reflection on 19:26 - Mar 15 by daveB

I thought we were really good, enjoyed the game, draw was probably a fair result although first goal looked well offside even if he doesn't end up touching it they are clearly holding a line to play him offside.

Sending off was a yellow for me but what was Paal doing with that free kick, bonkers pass that one

A good point against a good side, onto the next one


Couple of points:

Their 1st was a mile offside.

Saito 's challenge. It was the merest of touches, made 100 times worse by the Leeds player acting like he'd been shot- appeal it.

I felt the ref was a homer, clearly favouring massive Leeds.

Leeds fans. The knob cheese of Yorkshire. Awful club, awful fans.
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Leeds Reflection on 19:52 - Mar 15 with 4077 viewsGaryHaddock

I think they were the best team we've seen here for a while, but they seemed fragile when the first went in.

We handled them well I thought and had the better chances.
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Leeds Reflection on 19:59 - Mar 15 with 4019 viewsnumptydumpty

Leeds Reflection on 15:11 - Mar 15 by stainrods_elbow

Disagree on all points. A 'great' game - really? It was a typical, stop-start, low-quality Champ encounter for me, with the top team showing they're not that good.

The Leeds player for their goal was clearly interfering, assuming he didn't touch the ball, which he may have. Cook was right to appeal as vociferously as he did.

The Saito challenge was a nasty, pre-meditated, targeted kung-fu chop. Didn't seem that dismayed when he saw the card was red. Marti should have seen him into the dressing room with a flea in his ear not an arm round his shoulder. Says a lot for me.

We didn't play very well, two decent goals apart, but, as I say, Leeds weren't good enough to follow through once we'd let them back in. A draw just about summed up an otherwise underwhelming game, but I guess it's an improvement on recent showings, and I'm sure Cifuentes wil be emphasising the positives.
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I find it hard to see that you get any enjoyment whatsoever about following QPR.

It was a decent performance against a top championship outfit.

Yes two up flattered us and most of us feared the worst when Leeds pulled level early in the second half, but we could even have nicked it.

The injuries are piling up, but unlike other seasons, we certainly have a much more substational squad than previous.

Retaining a couple of the defenders out of contract and one or two other signings and we have at least a top half squad for next season with a decent manager at this level and with a bit of luck and maybe an Eze transfer to allow us to find the miracle of a total number nine, who knows.

But Stainrod, you always can be so amazingly negative always. Hard to understand what you get out of supporting our team.

We can definitely be content right now, without being complacent, at the very least.

It's been a decent showing this season and in particular after an atrocious start, results wise.
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Walking in a "Mackie Wonderland"
Poll: Where will we finish next season ???

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Leeds Reflection on 20:05 - Mar 15 with 3954 viewsstainrods_elbow

Oh, take a chill pill, and lighten up, you self-righteous bore! Have you never heard of tongues and cheeks? It was a kung fu chop like Cantona's attack was a kung fu chop! Like it would be a kung fu chop if I'd run on the pitch and committed the foul myself. Does that help make things clearer?

Otherwise, by all means go on trying to make me into someone I'm not out of your ongoing vendetta against me (which you're obviously determined not to scrutinise)!

Poll: Playoffs?

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Leeds Reflection on 20:29 - Mar 15 with 3824 viewsrichpr

Leeds Reflection on 15:11 - Mar 15 by stainrods_elbow

Disagree on all points. A 'great' game - really? It was a typical, stop-start, low-quality Champ encounter for me, with the top team showing they're not that good.

The Leeds player for their goal was clearly interfering, assuming he didn't touch the ball, which he may have. Cook was right to appeal as vociferously as he did.

The Saito challenge was a nasty, pre-meditated, targeted kung-fu chop. Didn't seem that dismayed when he saw the card was red. Marti should have seen him into the dressing room with a flea in his ear not an arm round his shoulder. Says a lot for me.

We didn't play very well, two decent goals apart, but, as I say, Leeds weren't good enough to follow through once we'd let them back in. A draw just about summed up an otherwise underwhelming game, but I guess it's an improvement on recent showings, and I'm sure Cifuentes wil be emphasising the positives.
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Disagree with you on disagreeing. It was an exciting game with plenty of goalmouth action. Red card was harsh. Loved all the effort, especially Frey. Hair-transplant Rodon won't face many more physical challenges than that. Thought Fox had an outstanding game.
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Leeds Reflection on 20:34 - Mar 15 with 3789 viewsStreathamRanger

Leeds Reflection on 20:29 - Mar 15 by richpr

Disagree with you on disagreeing. It was an exciting game with plenty of goalmouth action. Red card was harsh. Loved all the effort, especially Frey. Hair-transplant Rodon won't face many more physical challenges than that. Thought Fox had an outstanding game.


We also thought Fox had a very good game. He's done alright when called upon and I would not be too disappointed to see him offered another year. Seems a good pro.
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Leeds Reflection on 20:44 - Mar 15 with 3711 viewsterryb

Personally, I thought Leeds looked a lot better than last season. They played as a team this year & as 11 (15?) individuals last year!
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Leeds Reflection on 21:08 - Mar 15 with 3594 viewsrbee

I enjoyed watching the game on the telly and thought we played well against a team who have won almost double the number of points that we have so far this season. This time we really did leave everything on the pitch and you could argue that Leeds were lucky with both of their goals, deflections being fortunate on both occasions.

I can begin to understand Mr Elbow's negative slant on the game as we were guilty of many stray passes but as with everything in life you need balance, if you are going to highlight the negatives then you have to also highlight the positives. For me today there were far more positives than negatives bearing in mind the opposition.

In my opinion a red card all day long for Saito. A pointless challenge in that area of the pitch, the player had already gone and his studs hit the middle of the players leg. Recklessness brought on by enthusiasm, a lesson learnt for the lad.

Now the million-dollar question, can we replicate today's performance at the Potteries in two weeks’ time? We need to.
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Leeds Reflection on 22:51 - Mar 15 with 3273 viewsSK_hoops

Leeds Reflection on 19:31 - Mar 15 by NorthantsHoop

Yes the gap to the bottom 3 is shortening, a little worrying, we have lost the knack of winning games, maybe the international break might be the reset we need i.e. last time there was a break we lost to Leeds then had the break and we came back and went on a positive run.


True, but we've had a tough run in. Stoke away a 6 pointer now.
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