| Kim Hellberg 19:15 - Apr 17 with 8593 views | Fireboy2 |
Wtf are the club thinking of? We have a manager who totally understands the current squad, the feeling is reciprocated, the fans love the current manager, wtf are they bringing this guy over talks, because that's all it is, talk, it means nothing, it's actions that count, sheehan has proved he's the man for the job through actions, getting us out of the relegation battle. [Post edited 17 Apr 19:18]
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| Kim Hellberg on 19:24 - Apr 17 with 3696 views | onehunglow |
Why pissse off the fans again
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| Kim Hellberg on 19:34 - Apr 17 with 3670 views | Whiterockin |
As I have been saying FB I believe they have given someone until the end of the season to decide if they want the job. Gorringe is someone I really don't like, I'll leave it there or face a ban. How he can even contemplate not giving the job immediately to Sheehan is beyond belief. This will come back and bite us. |  | | |
| Kim Hellberg on 19:43 - Apr 17 with 3634 views | KeithHaynes |
We have something coming out that protects our sources and that will put people’s minds at breast. Bear with us. |  |
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| Kim Hellberg on 19:59 - Apr 17 with 3580 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Kim Hellberg on 19:43 - Apr 17 by KeithHaynes |
We have something coming out that protects our sources and that will put people’s minds at breast. Bear with us. |
As a fifteen year old schoolboy I remember my mind always being at breast. |  |
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| Kim Hellberg on 23:02 - Apr 17 with 3146 views | STID2017 |
| Kim Hellberg on 19:34 - Apr 17 by Whiterockin |
As I have been saying FB I believe they have given someone until the end of the season to decide if they want the job. Gorringe is someone I really don't like, I'll leave it there or face a ban. How he can even contemplate not giving the job immediately to Sheehan is beyond belief. This will come back and bite us. |
When you say about Gorringe not giving him the job, surely it is a group decision and not one man.
What you are saying is 100% right though
He is in all our eyes the only serious contender surely ? |  |
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| Kim Hellberg on 23:11 - Apr 17 with 3129 views | Dr_Winston |
It is obviously not going to be just down to Gorringe to make the decision. The faff over getting shot of Williams should make that clear at least.
Whatever ownership do they'll get it in the neck from somebody. Those who have thrown their weight behind Sheehan will be disgusted by the links with someone else, and those who spit on the idea of an "English as first language" coach getting the job will whine about Sheehan getting it if he does. They face Sophie's Choice no matter what they do and ultimately someone will crow about being right even if it's only guesswork.
I'd probably be happy either way. If Sheehan hasn't entirely won me over he has at least convinced me to give him a chance. If it's Hellberg he's got a little more of what I'm after but the players who have bought into AS's methods may have a grump.
It's not straightforward either way. |  |
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| Kim Hellberg on 23:37 - Apr 17 with 3086 views | QJumpingJack |
Maybe the club are scenario planning following speculation that Sheehan himself could move to another club. | | | |
| Kim Hellberg on 00:00 - Apr 18 with 3054 views | KeithHaynes |
The club are very split on Sheehan but he is most certainly the main man atm. | |
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| Kim Hellberg on 07:18 - Apr 18 with 2793 views | jack247 |
My preference would be to give Sheehan the job, but this is exactly why I said it’s foolish to consider him the only option without knowing who else the club are interested in.
What this guy has done over the last couple of years, with unfancied teams in the Swedish top division is phenomenal.
Sheehan couldn’t have done any more so far, but we shouldn’t be dismissing candidates like this out of hand. | | | |
| Kim Hellberg on 09:00 - Apr 18 with 2614 views | pete |
| Kim Hellberg on 00:00 - Apr 18 by KeithHaynes |
The club are very split on Sheehan but he is most certainly the main man atm. |
morning all, well i for one am wondering on the cost comparison, compo to his current club for him and his coaching team and salarys for them all for what they could bring which of course would reduce the transfer budget for incoming guys vs what we have and those costs, glad im not in charge tho to have to make those choices, but it must be said Mr Sheehan is doing a top job no matter of the results to the end of the season and everyon has to start somewhere | | | |
| Kim Hellberg on 09:28 - Apr 18 with 2552 views | GVJack |
Whilst I appreciate this is part and parcel of succession planning, it's right that the hierarchy don't put all their eggs in one basket. After all, whose to say that Sheehan isn't tempted away by a better offer or fails to agree terms with us? So having a plan B,C,D in your back pocket is never a bad thing especially if you don't want things to drag on too late into the summer.
But there seems to be something a bit more sneaky regarding this in that they are genuinely looking to see if the grass could be greener on the other side by brining someone unknown in. Big risk, both from the point of upsetting Sheehan/the squad/the fans (although I suspect they'll take little notice of the latter) but also if he Hellberg comes in he'll be starting from a static position, whilst Sheehan it seems has already got us out of the traps. Careful Swansea. Careful. [Post edited 18 Apr 9:29]
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| Kim Hellberg on 09:55 - Apr 18 with 2458 views | OptimisticJack |
| Kim Hellberg on 09:28 - Apr 18 by GVJack |
Whilst I appreciate this is part and parcel of succession planning, it's right that the hierarchy don't put all their eggs in one basket. After all, whose to say that Sheehan isn't tempted away by a better offer or fails to agree terms with us? So having a plan B,C,D in your back pocket is never a bad thing especially if you don't want things to drag on too late into the summer.
But there seems to be something a bit more sneaky regarding this in that they are genuinely looking to see if the grass could be greener on the other side by brining someone unknown in. Big risk, both from the point of upsetting Sheehan/the squad/the fans (although I suspect they'll take little notice of the latter) but also if he Hellberg comes in he'll be starting from a static position, whilst Sheehan it seems has already got us out of the traps. Careful Swansea. Careful. [Post edited 18 Apr 9:29]
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I don't think it's sneaky at all. It's weighing up all our options which is wise.
I like Alan Sheehan what Ive seen of him as a person and more importantly what he has achieved in 2 short spells in charge.
However short term spells by interim managers are quite often successful. Cardiff have had quite a few Riza being the most recent example. His start I believe was as good as that of Sheehan's.
Gary Monk through his respect in the dressing room had an immediate positive effect and to his credit maintained an improvement for a season or so. In the end though his footballing philosophies did not align with the supporters' and the so-called "Swansea Way".
In the last 20 years at Swansea we have been blessed with wonderful brands of football.
We are quite right to consider this with our next appointment.
Alan Sheehan has given us some short term success and the players have run through a brick wall to support him but would a long term appointment turn us into just another team? rather than a team different from the rest attractive on the eye and with an attractive style and brand of football that we have got used to over the past 20 years or so
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| Kim Hellberg on 10:16 - Apr 18 with 2377 views | raynor94 |
I see that Cifuentes the QPR manager was the Hammarby manager before Hellberg, I wouldn't say he's been a roaring success with them |  |
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| Kim Hellberg on 11:18 - Apr 18 with 2234 views | Fireboy2 |
It will take roughly 1.8 million to get him here, sheehan not even half that. | | | |
| Kim Hellberg on 11:27 - Apr 18 with 2196 views | jack247 |
| Kim Hellberg on 10:16 - Apr 18 by raynor94 |
I see that Cifuentes the QPR manager was the Hammarby manager before Hellberg, I wouldn't say he's been a roaring success with them |
He’s been there just over a year. They finished second ahead of bigger clubs. Before that he took over a club who had never been at the top level before and finished tenth then fifth with them.
I’d still prefer Sheehan, but that’s impressive by any standards. I would be very happy with either appointment. | | | |
| Kim Hellberg on 11:46 - Apr 18 with 2143 views | hobo |
| Kim Hellberg on 11:18 - Apr 18 by Fireboy2 |
It will take roughly 1.8 million to get him here, sheehan not even half that. |
Sheehan for me. Why rock the boat? Put the money into the playing squad |  | | |
| Kim Hellberg on 11:51 - Apr 18 with 2130 views | ncswan |
| Kim Hellberg on 09:55 - Apr 18 by OptimisticJack |
I don't think it's sneaky at all. It's weighing up all our options which is wise.
I like Alan Sheehan what Ive seen of him as a person and more importantly what he has achieved in 2 short spells in charge.
However short term spells by interim managers are quite often successful. Cardiff have had quite a few Riza being the most recent example. His start I believe was as good as that of Sheehan's.
Gary Monk through his respect in the dressing room had an immediate positive effect and to his credit maintained an improvement for a season or so. In the end though his footballing philosophies did not align with the supporters' and the so-called "Swansea Way".
In the last 20 years at Swansea we have been blessed with wonderful brands of football.
We are quite right to consider this with our next appointment.
Alan Sheehan has given us some short term success and the players have run through a brick wall to support him but would a long term appointment turn us into just another team? rather than a team different from the rest attractive on the eye and with an attractive style and brand of football that we have got used to over the past 20 years or so
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No, you & jack247 are wrong ... in this instance. What you two are describing is called "dithering". Swans are in debt and are looking to cut costs as much as possible. Alan Sheehan has proved to EVERYONE that he can do the job, and not that his salary offer should be any less than other candidates, but his overall costs would be less mainly since he & his family, other coaches in place, etc., are already established in the Swansea area. This should be recognized and accounted for in their manager search. To bring in Hellberg will cost them so much more money, and we're talking about Swedish League football!, would be a much bigger gamble. Management needs to make the right choice, and Sheehan is the BGO (blinding glimpse of the obvious). I agree with WR that Gorringe may be wanting to put his stamp on this process, for it to be his choice, and not someone that he wasn't involved with. To continue to look for other options after what Sheehan has accomplished goes against common sense, and is more like a Julian Winter notion rather than a Trevor Birch type analysis, which is what's needed at this moment. | | | |
| Kim Hellberg on 11:58 - Apr 18 with 2100 views | STID2017 |
| Kim Hellberg on 11:46 - Apr 18 by hobo |
Sheehan for me. Why rock the boat? Put the money into the playing squad |
Exactly
Save the money they would pay in compo and extra salary to tempt this guy (and his own crew no doubt) and use the money in building on the team we have now | |
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| Kim Hellberg on 12:45 - Apr 18 with 2049 views | jack247 |
| Kim Hellberg on 11:51 - Apr 18 by ncswan |
No, you & jack247 are wrong ... in this instance. What you two are describing is called "dithering". Swans are in debt and are looking to cut costs as much as possible. Alan Sheehan has proved to EVERYONE that he can do the job, and not that his salary offer should be any less than other candidates, but his overall costs would be less mainly since he & his family, other coaches in place, etc., are already established in the Swansea area. This should be recognized and accounted for in their manager search. To bring in Hellberg will cost them so much more money, and we're talking about Swedish League football!, would be a much bigger gamble. Management needs to make the right choice, and Sheehan is the BGO (blinding glimpse of the obvious). I agree with WR that Gorringe may be wanting to put his stamp on this process, for it to be his choice, and not someone that he wasn't involved with. To continue to look for other options after what Sheehan has accomplished goes against common sense, and is more like a Julian Winter notion rather than a Trevor Birch type analysis, which is what's needed at this moment. |
Steady on, he’s been in charge for nine games. He’s done brilliantly, absolutely no question.
Considering other options after such a short period, especially ones with three successful seasons behind them, isn’t ’dithering’, it’s professional.
As I’ve said already, Sheehan would be my preference, but I’m glad the club is being thorough. | | | |
| Kim Hellberg on 19:26 - Apr 18 with 1787 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Sheehan knew that a process was going on and accepted the job on that basis. No one can argue he has not been a revelation.
He has not been harshly treated and the club have told him the process is bearing it's end which he stated in the Press Conference.
If it comes down to money then presumably Sheehan is in the box seat..Conversely some one leaked out the other clubs were taking note of Sheehan s record. |  |
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| Kim Hellberg on 19:39 - Apr 18 with 1735 views | Fireboy2 |
| Kim Hellberg on 19:26 - Apr 18 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Sheehan knew that a process was going on and accepted the job on that basis. No one can argue he has not been a revelation.
He has not been harshly treated and the club have told him the process is bearing it's end which he stated in the Press Conference.
If it comes down to money then presumably Sheehan is in the box seat..Conversely some one leaked out the other clubs were taking note of Sheehan s record. |
4 games
4 wins
4 clean sheets
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| Kim Hellberg on 00:21 - Apr 19 with 1542 views | STID2017 |
| Kim Hellberg on 19:39 - Apr 18 by Fireboy2 |
4 games
4 wins
4 clean sheets
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Last one to achieve that was Martinez.
If he doesn't get the job next week there is something very wrong | |
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