| Well this makes sense to me... Wenger on new VAR idea on 15:53 - May 7 with 1478 views | Northernr |
You're still creating a situation where a goal can be disallowed because somebody had a toenail in the wrong place 45 seconds and ten passes back in the move.
You'll just end up with perverse decisions the other way, where somebody is clearly offside to all our common understanding of the law and its spirit, but if you freeze frame it (at a frame rate that isn't adequate to do it properly) you can show that the back of his boot is actually level with somebody's little toe.
Football needs to stop pursuing some controversy free perfection that will never be achieved.
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| Well this makes sense to me... Wenger on new VAR idea on 16:24 - May 7 with 1399 views | bosh67 |
| Well this makes sense to me... Wenger on new VAR idea on 15:53 - May 7 by Northernr |
You're still creating a situation where a goal can be disallowed because somebody had a toenail in the wrong place 45 seconds and ten passes back in the move.
You'll just end up with perverse decisions the other way, where somebody is clearly offside to all our common understanding of the law and its spirit, but if you freeze frame it (at a frame rate that isn't adequate to do it properly) you can show that the back of his boot is actually level with somebody's little toe.
Football needs to stop pursuing some controversy free perfection that will never be achieved.
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Probably true. I am in favour of scrapping it and offside and just going back to promoting goal hanging. |  |
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| Well this makes sense to me... Wenger on new VAR idea on 18:12 - May 7 with 1242 views | qpr_1968 |
scrap the whole var nonsense....
22 players on field....
1 ref....2 linesmen....
we all make human mistakes....that is part of the game.
the 3 officials are human as well.
otherwise just make the whole competitions on line....sit in your front rooms with your consols in your hand, and whatever else.....and sing whatever songs you want. |  |
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| Well this makes sense to me... Wenger on new VAR idea on 19:08 - May 7 with 1155 views | numptydumpty |
If the humans that interpret VAR stuck to the script, decisions could be made instantly.
It's meant to overturn clear and obvious errors, a toenail offside, in anyone's language is clearly not an obvious error.
There should be a line say, a few inches either way, which is where leeway is given so that six millimetres offside doesn't overturn a decision.
The fact that technology can determine this instantly, but that isn't chosen. It's given to a whole load of other incompetent officials to use their own judgements and ignoring the technology anyhow.
Where it goes wrong is they allow VAR judges to take an eternity to decide if they believe the toenail is on or off if interfering with play and if they bottle it, they give it over to the referee to overturn a decision he made himself already.
Just use the technology instantly.
TECH today can easily do this.
Hawkeye in tennis names faults and shots that are out instantly.
The time taken to decide , means everyone is in limbo for five to ten minutes and then a decision is finally taken, killing the moment for all.
If it was used the way it was meant to be, instant decisions could happen....
If me and 50 million other fans worldwide at games understand this, how come the whole of the footballing fraternity and hierarchies haven't got a scoobie and why are they in such positions of importance when they are hideously incompetent....
But there's a whole other story !!! [Post edited 7 May 19:13]
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| Well this makes sense to me... Wenger on new VAR idea on 19:17 - May 7 with 1129 views | Terry49 |
What gets me annoyed is the amount of yards or metres that are gained at throw ins.We are as guilty as others. The simple solution is surely for the linesman to stand where the throw in should taken. End of | | | |
| Well this makes sense to me... Wenger on new VAR idea on 19:23 - May 7 with 1112 views | qpr_1968 |
| Well this makes sense to me... Wenger on new VAR idea on 19:08 - May 7 by numptydumpty |
If the humans that interpret VAR stuck to the script, decisions could be made instantly.
It's meant to overturn clear and obvious errors, a toenail offside, in anyone's language is clearly not an obvious error.
There should be a line say, a few inches either way, which is where leeway is given so that six millimetres offside doesn't overturn a decision.
The fact that technology can determine this instantly, but that isn't chosen. It's given to a whole load of other incompetent officials to use their own judgements and ignoring the technology anyhow.
Where it goes wrong is they allow VAR judges to take an eternity to decide if they believe the toenail is on or off if interfering with play and if they bottle it, they give it over to the referee to overturn a decision he made himself already.
Just use the technology instantly.
TECH today can easily do this.
Hawkeye in tennis names faults and shots that are out instantly.
The time taken to decide , means everyone is in limbo for five to ten minutes and then a decision is finally taken, killing the moment for all.
If it was used the way it was meant to be, instant decisions could happen....
If me and 50 million other fans worldwide at games understand this, how come the whole of the footballing fraternity and hierarchies haven't got a scoobie and why are they in such positions of importance when they are hideously incompetent....
But there's a whole other story !!! [Post edited 7 May 19:13]
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if the ball crosses/or not the line geoff hurst style, then that will do for me....thats all it should be used for.
any other time wasting crap does my nut in.
waiting 7 to 8 minutes for the outcome, christ.
a mistake by the 3 officials will even its self out over the season, it has done for ny on 100 years.
computer games/football used to copy the proper football we watched on a saturday afternoon, now live football copies the computer.
the style of football today is boring....unless your top of your game, the four divisions all play it.
every team should have their own style....like we had in '76.
please dont tell me this is 2025....kop out answer. | |
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| Well this makes sense to me... Wenger on new VAR idea on 22:52 - May 7 with 899 views | The_Beast1976 |
| Well this makes sense to me... Wenger on new VAR idea on 19:08 - May 7 by numptydumpty |
If the humans that interpret VAR stuck to the script, decisions could be made instantly.
It's meant to overturn clear and obvious errors, a toenail offside, in anyone's language is clearly not an obvious error.
There should be a line say, a few inches either way, which is where leeway is given so that six millimetres offside doesn't overturn a decision.
The fact that technology can determine this instantly, but that isn't chosen. It's given to a whole load of other incompetent officials to use their own judgements and ignoring the technology anyhow.
Where it goes wrong is they allow VAR judges to take an eternity to decide if they believe the toenail is on or off if interfering with play and if they bottle it, they give it over to the referee to overturn a decision he made himself already.
Just use the technology instantly.
TECH today can easily do this.
Hawkeye in tennis names faults and shots that are out instantly.
The time taken to decide , means everyone is in limbo for five to ten minutes and then a decision is finally taken, killing the moment for all.
If it was used the way it was meant to be, instant decisions could happen....
If me and 50 million other fans worldwide at games understand this, how come the whole of the footballing fraternity and hierarchies haven't got a scoobie and why are they in such positions of importance when they are hideously incompetent....
But there's a whole other story !!! [Post edited 7 May 19:13]
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I think VAR was brought in solely for the tv viewers. It adds more 'talking points' to the game. The people who actually attend football clearly wish VAR was gone. | | | |
| Well this makes sense to me... Wenger on new VAR idea on 03:57 - May 8 with 759 views | Match82 |
| Well this makes sense to me... Wenger on new VAR idea on 19:17 - May 7 by Terry49 |
What gets me annoyed is the amount of yards or metres that are gained at throw ins.We are as guilty as others. The simple solution is surely for the linesman to stand where the throw in should taken. End of |
Only works on 1/2 the pitch though if the lino is on the other side from where the ball goes out. Could use the disappearing spray they use for free kicks i guess |  | | |
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| Well this makes sense to me... Wenger on new VAR idea on 07:53 - May 8 with 630 views | BAWHoops |
It should come as no surprise to anyone that the 'Big 6' fans are the ones who moan the loudest about referees and VAR.
Everyone else gets on with it, but god forbid ickle Arsenal or Chelsea should have a controversial decision go against them.
It's football, swings & roundabouts |  |
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| Well this makes sense to me... Wenger on new VAR idea on 08:00 - May 8 with 617 views | francisbowles |
| Well this makes sense to me... Wenger on new VAR idea on 15:53 - May 7 by Northernr |
You're still creating a situation where a goal can be disallowed because somebody had a toenail in the wrong place 45 seconds and ten passes back in the move.
You'll just end up with perverse decisions the other way, where somebody is clearly offside to all our common understanding of the law and its spirit, but if you freeze frame it (at a frame rate that isn't adequate to do it properly) you can show that the back of his boot is actually level with somebody's little toe.
Football needs to stop pursuing some controversy free perfection that will never be achieved.
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It makes sense to go back to the level or daylight gap. I agree that VAR should play no part in it and a decent linesman (😬) should be able to get the vast majority of offside decisions correct with the proposed change. | | | |
| Well this makes sense to me... Wenger on new VAR idea on 13:10 - May 8 with 438 views | GroveR |
I reckon the criteria for all decisions should be based on stoicism and maintaining a stiff upper lip. The team that honks the loudest and most incessantly and ideally in either a foreign language or in a non-RP accent will be deemed to be at fault.
We're practically bottom passive in most games that this rule would actually benefit us. |  | | |
| Well this makes sense to me... Wenger on new VAR idea on 13:11 - May 8 with 436 views | Clive_Anderson |
I hate offsides where they are 99% level and a tiny bit of shoulder or ankle is offside. Give it a 20cm grey zone and if you're ahead of that you're offside.
No one looked at goals like the one Inter had disallowed against Barcelona in the first leg and said it was offside before VAR. | | | |
| Well this makes sense to me... Wenger on new VAR idea on 18:48 - May 8 with 241 views | Mick_S |
| Well this makes sense to me... Wenger on new VAR idea on 19:17 - May 7 by Terry49 |
What gets me annoyed is the amount of yards or metres that are gained at throw ins.We are as guilty as others. The simple solution is surely for the linesman to stand where the throw in should taken. End of |
The linesman/woman should have the shaving foam spray to mark where the ball went out for the throw in. There is a flaw in my argument- I accept that 😉 |  |
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