| Is it time to admit that Ultras are the way forward? 17:25 - May 17 with 6052 views | theselector |
I know lots of people think that the ultra culture is a bit foreign, a bit orchestrated and not very spontaneous.
But... watching Palace fans in the cup final, and at most home games, they create an atmosphere. Constantly.
We might have an amazing atmosphere at Loftus Road for some games, but let's be honest, it can be pretty dead sometimes. Especially when things aren't going well on the pitch.
So is it time to put our prejudices aside and accept that this is the way forward? |  | | |  |
| Is it time to admit that Ultras are the way forward? on 21:50 - May 17 with 1481 views | ted_hendrix |
| Is it time to admit that Ultras are the way forward? on 21:42 - May 17 by stowmarketrange |
If we had 13 seasons in the premier league instead of 13 months our crowd would be as loud as theirs without the need for drums or megaphones.
Remember how good our crowds were in the 2011-12 season,especially towards the end of the season in those last 5 home games. |
The win over Liverpool that night was tremendous, and so were we----the noise In the loft was incredible. |  |
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| Is it time to admit that Ultras are the way forward? on 21:52 - May 17 with 1482 views | Dorse |
| Is it time to admit that Ultras are the way forward? on 19:40 - May 17 by 1BobbyHazell |
Agreed. Young lads, supporting their team, singing all game long, creating an atmosphere, good luck to them.
Especially as most Premier League London clubs are trying to move towards more Tourist Plastics and leave any real fans behind.
Having said that, watching someone 'give it a go' with a megaphone in the lower loft would be quite funny. |
I can see the headline now: 'Man Clings To Life After Marathon Surgery To Remove Megaphone From Colon' |  |
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| Is it time to admit that Ultras are the way forward? on 22:23 - May 17 with 1375 views | BklynRanger |
| Is it time to admit that Ultras are the way forward? on 20:05 - May 17 by ted_hendrix |
Anyone who takes a drum to a football match Is a massive gonk. |
A gonk! I don't know what that is but it should be end of thread. |  | | |
| Is it time to admit that Ultras are the way forward? on 23:53 - May 17 with 1270 views | SydneyRs |
No thanks, there's enough try hard fans copying this stuff off YouTube already. Even Rangers and Celtic are at it. | | | |
| Is it time to admit that Ultras are the way forward? on 06:57 - May 18 with 1130 views | Pikey |
I know a number of Palace fans who were dreading being stuck in the middle of their 'ultras' at wembley.
After 60 odd years of supporting they simply wanted to go and WATCH the match and support their team.
Not spend the game unable to watch etc.
It's not like a normal home game where you know the folk around you and can choose not to sit in an ultras area. | | | |
| Is it time to admit that Ultras are the way forward? on 10:33 - May 18 with 930 views | G_Ottershaw |
just asking, is there any evidence of hooliganism amongst these ultras? if not then fine, if there is then this is really not a route we should go down | | | |
| Is it time to admit that Ultras are the way forward? on 10:44 - May 18 with 887 views | stowmarketrange |
| Is it time to admit that Ultras are the way forward? on 10:33 - May 18 by G_Ottershaw |
just asking, is there any evidence of hooliganism amongst these ultras? if not then fine, if there is then this is really not a route we should go down |
There were a few things thrown on at the pitch at our place a few years ago from their area,but I’ve not heard of anything else.
They are like big kids though and they boycott games if things aren’t done to their liking.Including getting seats in the middle of the stand instead of by the corner flag that they started off in. |  | | |
| Is it time to admit that Ultras are the way forward? on 11:03 - May 18 with 839 views | Toast_R |
Just read the story about the Tifo (new phrase to me) of the Crystal Palace fan cradling his two young sons in celebration, from a 2012 Man Utd v Palace match when Darren Ambrose scored a worldy at Old Trafford.
The image was displayed yesterday in the Crystal Palace end where the now deceased father's grown-up sons, got to see it, on the clubs biggest day. What a tribute.
I found that story unbelievably moving. |  | | |
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| Is it time to admit that Ultras are the way forward? on 11:49 - May 18 with 745 views | themodfather |
i live in central london and saw 3 numpties wearing holmesdale t-shirts, "ultras" lol bloody joke, a few schoolkids got together and it started with them lobbing red and blue papers on pitch, then a few flags, i'm not against colours and flags but these 3 were a lame joke. i even said aloud " look ultras, lets run" .
the game has changed, more fans wearing team shirts at games than ever before . i think at QPR were a police state, stay seated and do nothing or be ejected/banned so i think that is why sometimes it is muted? AMIT BHATIA wanted noise and flags . at least the club now allow larger flags to be displayed, which i think is great . | | | |
| Is it time to admit that Ultras are the way forward? on 13:21 - May 18 with 664 views | FredManRave |
As always, it doesn't have to be shite or bust.
You can (be in) deny (al) all you want about the ultras, but the simple fact is that the atmosphere is better with them than it would be without them. That doesn't mean you have to be the one with the megaphone or T-Shirt, but I know I, along with probably thousands of other oldies, would join in, if there were a group of young fans creating an atmosphere.
The Palace fans yesterday were amazing and created an atmosphere from beginning to end that would have been nothing like it without the ultras. If somebody wants to face away from the pitch (not such a bad thing for an R over recent decades, give or take...) to create a better atmosphere, then good for them, and it's for the better of the fans AND the team.
Isn't this effectively what Q-Block used to do? No Ultras or T-Shirts, ok maybe a drum, but just a group of young lads that helped create a better atmosphere?
Football, in the main, is about the emotional experience of the 90 minutes at the game, so part of that, I would assume for many, will be about the atmosphere within the ground. People reminisce about the amazing atmosphere at certain memorable games and bemoan the lack of atmosphere at others, so if there was a way to make the atmosphere better at our games, as long as I didn't have to be the one with the megaphone, then I'd be all for it and would happily join in.
And I'm watching Everton's last game at Goodison, and I can guarantee you that if they had a version of the Ultras at that game then it would be a huge improvement on the current, unbelievably tame atmosphere, for what is a once in a lifetime emotional game. I'd want to go out with a bang, just as Palace fans went with a bang for the whole game yesterday.
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| Is it time to admit that Ultras are the way forward? on 14:01 - May 18 with 588 views | FDC |
I went to watch FCUtd a few times when I lived in Manchester, loved all the ultras stuff, great atmosphere, great fun. I've got plenty of time for that culture and identity side of the game, although it can obviously be horrifically cringe if overly contrived and manufactured |  | | |
| Is it time to admit that Ultras are the way forward? on 14:24 - May 18 with 540 views | willesdenr |
If the kids and teens need orchestrating then good luck but us old gits and plebs are happy to sit and watch the game and swear a lot at the players, management and officials. Occasionally jumping up when we score. | | | |
| Is it time to admit that Ultras are the way forward? on 14:59 - May 18 with 490 views | Dorse |
The ultras thing currently feels a bit forced when it crops up in English football. However, compare that to Shalke or Dortmund in the Bundesliga, Lazio or Napoli in Serie A, or even Legia Warsaw: those grew up more organically and feel like an integral part of the fan/club relationship. I have no problem with it but feel wary of the potential for aggro. This can, however, be managed and clearly is at other clubs.
I really like the banners our support has put together over the past couple of seasons. Nothing aggressive, sometimes tongue-in-cheek, nice commemorative images etc. I think it shows some real class and paints the fans in a positive light. I don't think we're in the march-down-the-Uxbridge-road category really. Doesn't feel like us. | |
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