| Premier League Prize Money 19:43 - May 27 with 2366 views | slmrstid |
Estimates but I've seen this graphic on Reddit from the Athletic.
£110.9m for Southampton for coming last. Our entire turnover for the 2024 accounting year was £25.9m.
Absolutely, utterly, impossible to compete. Ridiculous state of affairs really.
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| Premier League Prize Money on 21:00 - May 27 with 1859 views | The_Beast1976 |
Agreed. It's anti competition i.e. a monopoly |  | | |
| Premier League Prize Money on 21:55 - May 27 with 1738 views | ted_hendrix |
Well It's a huge thing for the winners of the top cash prizes and a huge disappointment for the clubs that don't win or come anywhere near winning top cash prizes.
A few years ago I was driving home from an evening game (we lost) I was just coming of the M4 junction 13 for Newbury and this subject was being discussed by the Idiots on Talksport, they were talking about how vital It was to finish as high up the table because of the financial rewards, this is the point where I lost my rag and shouted at the radio no you stupid chunts It's about winning a game of football In the vain hope that you might, just might actually win a competition, not Millions of pounds, a bloody a competition.
I think prize money has always been there but nothing like the scale It Is now.
It just doesn't sit right with me. |  |
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| Premier League Prize Money on 08:32 - May 28 with 1500 views | Harbour |
A closed shop.. | | | |
| Premier League Prize Money on 09:40 - May 28 with 1416 views | stantheman10 |
It didn't help Luton much! | | | |
| Premier League Prize Money on 12:26 - May 28 with 1300 views | NewBee |
| Premier League Prize Money on 21:00 - May 27 by The_Beast1976 |
Agreed. It's anti competition i.e. a monopoly |
I understand completely, and sympathise with, anger at the huge disparity in income between PL and EFL.
But it's hard to see what can be done, since it is the PL which is generating this revenue, so on what basis could they be forced to hand it over to s.o. else?
As for it being a "monopoly", that would only be so if the original clubs had entrenched their membership with no Promotion/Relegation. But fact is, there have been 51(?) clubs in the PL since its inception.
While s.o. mentioned Luton - it seems to me that their one season windfall (£100m+) will greatly reduce any risk that their shiny new stadium could bankrupt them, even should they continue to drop down the EFL. Which from a long term perspective, must surely be a huge bonus for them.
I genuinely dislike the growing gap between PL and EFL, and have big reservations about parachute payments, but I cannot see how this can all be avoided.
But tbh, it's fans of clubs in other countries who should be most aggrieved, since unlike EFL clubs, they can neither "beat them or join them".
And I think I'd still have to hold this opinion if/when Bees get relegated. | | | |
| Premier League Prize Money on 12:37 - May 28 with 1258 views | stantheman10 |
| Premier League Prize Money on 12:26 - May 28 by NewBee |
I understand completely, and sympathise with, anger at the huge disparity in income between PL and EFL.
But it's hard to see what can be done, since it is the PL which is generating this revenue, so on what basis could they be forced to hand it over to s.o. else?
As for it being a "monopoly", that would only be so if the original clubs had entrenched their membership with no Promotion/Relegation. But fact is, there have been 51(?) clubs in the PL since its inception.
While s.o. mentioned Luton - it seems to me that their one season windfall (£100m+) will greatly reduce any risk that their shiny new stadium could bankrupt them, even should they continue to drop down the EFL. Which from a long term perspective, must surely be a huge bonus for them.
I genuinely dislike the growing gap between PL and EFL, and have big reservations about parachute payments, but I cannot see how this can all be avoided.
But tbh, it's fans of clubs in other countries who should be most aggrieved, since unlike EFL clubs, they can neither "beat them or join them".
And I think I'd still have to hold this opinion if/when Bees get relegated. |
The only way the Championship can catch up with the premier league is to relax the PSR rules in the EFL to allow clubs to spend more. That would only work if, as has been mooted before, the owners and not the club act as garantors so that clubs don't go out of existence a la Bury etc | | | |
| Premier League Prize Money on 12:37 - May 28 with 1256 views | stevec |
Every season we get a 25% chance of finishing top six.
The fact we can never seem to get anywhere near it is on us and nobody else. |  | | |
| Premier League Prize Money on 12:39 - May 28 with 1256 views | KensalT |
| Premier League Prize Money on 12:26 - May 28 by NewBee |
I understand completely, and sympathise with, anger at the huge disparity in income between PL and EFL.
But it's hard to see what can be done, since it is the PL which is generating this revenue, so on what basis could they be forced to hand it over to s.o. else?
As for it being a "monopoly", that would only be so if the original clubs had entrenched their membership with no Promotion/Relegation. But fact is, there have been 51(?) clubs in the PL since its inception.
While s.o. mentioned Luton - it seems to me that their one season windfall (£100m+) will greatly reduce any risk that their shiny new stadium could bankrupt them, even should they continue to drop down the EFL. Which from a long term perspective, must surely be a huge bonus for them.
I genuinely dislike the growing gap between PL and EFL, and have big reservations about parachute payments, but I cannot see how this can all be avoided.
But tbh, it's fans of clubs in other countries who should be most aggrieved, since unlike EFL clubs, they can neither "beat them or join them".
And I think I'd still have to hold this opinion if/when Bees get relegated. |
If Bees get relegated then the parachute payments should ensure they have a very good chance of bouncing back. So I can see why you are quite relaxed about that possibility.
But if the Super League ever takes off, and I believe it's question of when rather than if, then you will at least have the consolation of a shiny new stadium as the TV money dries up :-)
Joking aside, the Super League does still have a website:
https://thesuperleague.com/
Although it just directs you to this page:
https://a22sports.com/en/
So don't waste your sympathy on fans of clubs in other countries. They've got a plan! [Post edited 28 May 12:43]
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| Premier League Prize Money on 12:55 - May 28 with 1217 views | stantheman10 |
| Premier League Prize Money on 12:39 - May 28 by KensalT |
If Bees get relegated then the parachute payments should ensure they have a very good chance of bouncing back. So I can see why you are quite relaxed about that possibility.
But if the Super League ever takes off, and I believe it's question of when rather than if, then you will at least have the consolation of a shiny new stadium as the TV money dries up :-)
Joking aside, the Super League does still have a website:
https://thesuperleague.com/
Although it just directs you to this page:
https://a22sports.com/en/
So don't waste your sympathy on fans of clubs in other countries. They've got a plan! [Post edited 28 May 12:43]
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It wouldn't surprise me if FIFA are looking to run a world super league and that the expanded World Club Cup is a precursor to that. They'd definitely have the backing of the Arab countries and probably all the 'big' US clubs. Real Madrid, Barcelona, both Milan sides, Roma and Napoli are all still on the European Super League list so could easily be courted to a World Super League. FIFA hate it that UEFA have a successful cup competition with the best club sides in the world. | | | |
| Premier League Prize Money on 13:02 - May 28 with 1196 views | charmr |
So many tv commentators making the narrative about financial reward.
Boring bollox | | | |
| Premier League Prize Money on 13:08 - May 28 with 1185 views | KensalT |
| Premier League Prize Money on 12:55 - May 28 by stantheman10 |
It wouldn't surprise me if FIFA are looking to run a world super league and that the expanded World Club Cup is a precursor to that. They'd definitely have the backing of the Arab countries and probably all the 'big' US clubs. Real Madrid, Barcelona, both Milan sides, Roma and Napoli are all still on the European Super League list so could easily be courted to a World Super League. FIFA hate it that UEFA have a successful cup competition with the best club sides in the world. |
FIFA have already had their authority challenged in the American courts over the rule that domestic league fixtures couldn't be played overseas.
That's why La Liga are already talking about playing some Spanish fixtures in the USA from 2025/26
https://www.espn.co.uk/football/story/_/id/40016223/laliga-play-fixtures-us-soon
From FIFA and UEFA's perspective they can either dig in and resist changes to the governance of the game or they can accept that it would be like trying to hold back the tide and try to ensure they are guiding the process and retaining their control.
There's potentially way too much money to be made from pan-continental or pan-global club competitions for the changes not to come sooner or later. [Post edited 28 May 15:09]
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| Premier League Prize Money on 13:13 - May 28 with 1164 views | Juzzie |
| Premier League Prize Money on 13:02 - May 28 by charmr |
So many tv commentators making the narrative about financial reward.
Boring bollox |
I wouldn’t mind so much if the money helped with things like reasonable ticket prices, merchandise, catering and ensuring a decent stadium to play/spectate in, training facilities, community and youth infrastructure etc etc but so much is hoovered up by players and agents it makes all the aforementioned unnecessarily expensive and sometimes poor (i.e. catering)
Every time a new record tv deal is announced I doubt anyone in the game is thinking “oooh great, we can reduce prices, make something available that wasn’t before” and so on. You know, for the fans.
All that happens is players (and agents get bigger fees) can go from £50k a week to £80k a week because £50k a week is clearly unsustainable to live on.
When a club like Man Utd is making wholesale redundancies of normal people while they have loads of players being paid obscene amounts, something is so very wrong.
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| Premier League Prize Money on 14:14 - May 28 with 1078 views | Tripper |
The growing gulf between the top two legues will need addressing or we'll soon be in a postion where we are like US sports with no relegation jeopardy for pretty much all the Premier League clubs.
Probably impossible to get voted through but I think it would make sense to allow a maximum of two of the promoted clubs to be relegated each season giving the opportunity for one to have a second chance at establishing itself.
For the broadcasters this surely would be a good thing as there has been nothing to play for since probably January with the destiny of the promoted clubs decided months ago. If there could only have been two of the promoted clubs relegated there would have been massive worldwide interest with Spurs, Man Utd and West Ham all looking likely to be relagated right up to the final day. The big clubs won't want it but the broadcasters need to do something to address falling audiences and subscription rates are they ultimately are the paymasters. [Post edited 28 May 14:15]
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| Premier League Prize Money on 16:49 - May 28 with 941 views | NewBee |
| Premier League Prize Money on 12:39 - May 28 by KensalT |
If Bees get relegated then the parachute payments should ensure they have a very good chance of bouncing back. So I can see why you are quite relaxed about that possibility.
But if the Super League ever takes off, and I believe it's question of when rather than if, then you will at least have the consolation of a shiny new stadium as the TV money dries up :-)
Joking aside, the Super League does still have a website:
https://thesuperleague.com/
Although it just directs you to this page:
https://a22sports.com/en/
So don't waste your sympathy on fans of clubs in other countries. They've got a plan! [Post edited 28 May 12:43]
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If a relegated Bees wouldn't be so well placed (via parachute payments) to bounce back up again, then I have to admit I'd be far from relaxed, so fair point!
Meanwhile, re your comment on the ESL, I remain completely relaxed it won't happen, for a variety of reasons.
First, it will never have German clubs (fan ownership), nor will it have English clubs (fan protests). And while they imagined they could do without the former, the fact they were prepared (forced?) to allocate 6 of the 12 permanent places to the PL shows just how crucial English participation is.
Second, the 3 big proponents (Real, Barca and Juve) were driving it through desperation for money, their 3 main allies (Milan, Atletico and Inter) have grown decidedly cold on it. Which suggests to me that they know more than Real/Barca/Juve are letting on.
Third, since the embarrassing rejection of the original proposal, the big three have watered it down considerably in various resets. For example, they originally wanted ESL games to be played at wkends (prime TV revenues), with their members playing their domestic league games in midweek - they soon reversed it! Plus they widened the number of participants, and even allowed for Promotion/Relegation. This surely shows how weak their position was/is.
Finally, while UEFA are unable to stop it via the Courts, by rejigging the CL and the finances etc, they have stolen the ESL's thunder, with the new CL format having been esp well received.
So after the fashion of the late, great EJ Thribb:
"So.
Farewell then
European Super League.
You were the
First of the great Revolutionary
Projects. You and I
Had little in
Common
Except that Like
Me, you were
Football fans
Though how you
Came up with such
A Cock-eyed scheme and
Thought it would
Work is
Baffling." | | | |
| Premier League Prize Money on 18:08 - May 28 with 879 views | KensalT |
| Premier League Prize Money on 16:49 - May 28 by NewBee |
If a relegated Bees wouldn't be so well placed (via parachute payments) to bounce back up again, then I have to admit I'd be far from relaxed, so fair point!
Meanwhile, re your comment on the ESL, I remain completely relaxed it won't happen, for a variety of reasons.
First, it will never have German clubs (fan ownership), nor will it have English clubs (fan protests). And while they imagined they could do without the former, the fact they were prepared (forced?) to allocate 6 of the 12 permanent places to the PL shows just how crucial English participation is.
Second, the 3 big proponents (Real, Barca and Juve) were driving it through desperation for money, their 3 main allies (Milan, Atletico and Inter) have grown decidedly cold on it. Which suggests to me that they know more than Real/Barca/Juve are letting on.
Third, since the embarrassing rejection of the original proposal, the big three have watered it down considerably in various resets. For example, they originally wanted ESL games to be played at wkends (prime TV revenues), with their members playing their domestic league games in midweek - they soon reversed it! Plus they widened the number of participants, and even allowed for Promotion/Relegation. This surely shows how weak their position was/is.
Finally, while UEFA are unable to stop it via the Courts, by rejigging the CL and the finances etc, they have stolen the ESL's thunder, with the new CL format having been esp well received.
So after the fashion of the late, great EJ Thribb:
"So.
Farewell then
European Super League.
You were the
First of the great Revolutionary
Projects. You and I
Had little in
Common
Except that Like
Me, you were
Football fans
Though how you
Came up with such
A Cock-eyed scheme and
Thought it would
Work is
Baffling." |
Some good points there.
With respect to German clubs the 50 + 1 ownership rule only came into effect in 1999 and there have been questions from the German Federal Cartel Office over whether the rule is anti-competitive:
"Since its introduction in 1999, the 50+1 rule’s compliance with competition law has been hotly contested. In 2019, following a request from the DFL that the FCO declare that there was no ground for action in this matter, the FCO formally launched an investigation.
In its 2021 preliminary findings, the FCO stated that the 50+1 rule may constitute a restriction of competition, but considered the main goals of the rule are legitimate"
https://www.linklaters.com/en/insights/blogs/sportinglinks/2023/april/the-new-fo
So far those rules have still been upheld but I wouldn't take it for granted that they couldn't be changed at some point in the future if it became expedient to do so. It's not like they have been around forever.
With regards to your point three. The 2021 attempt to launch a Super League was a bit of a dogs dinner. But at the time many were questioning whether it was a serious move for a breakaway league or just a manoeuvre to force UEFA to grant more concessions to the big clubs.
In truth the 2021 initiative and its true motives are difficult to read. The fact that Real, Barca, and Juve have stuck with it and even threatened litigation against the clubs who got cold feet does suggest that they at least saw it as a serious attempt at a breakaway league.
But as you acknowledge UEFA have managed to stall the process by, um, giving ground to the big clubs. Hmmm.
So who really holds the power here? The big clubs or UEFA?
In the meantime A22 Sports Management letter to UEFA proposing a Unity League of 96 teams can be read here:
https://a22sports.s3.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/files/8517/3452/2219/UEFALetter_ENG
In the submission they reference "the December 21, 2023, decision of the Court of Justice of the European Union"
An analysis of that decision can be read here:
https://chambers.com/legal-trends/eu-court-updates-on-football-governingbodies
But I think the key paragraph is:
"The CJEU underlined the economic nature of organising inter-club football competitions and the exploitation of media rights, and therefore asserted that such activities fall under EU competition rules and the fundamental principles of free movement. Despite the specific characteristics of sports governance, including the regulatory powers wielded by associations like FIFA and UEFA and their ability to impose sanctions, the CJEU stressed that FIFA and UEFA’s regulatory framework lacked transparent, objective, non-discriminatory and proportionate criteria in determining access to the market, concluding that the exercise of their authority constituted an abuse of dominant position."
So I respectfully disagree with you about the prospects for pan European football competitions. And while I don't think it will happen today or tomorrow it will come eventually and when it does the TV money will follow. | | | |
| Premier League Prize Money on 20:15 - May 28 with 736 views | The_Beast1976 |
Whatever the nuances of the points discussed above, the fact at heart remains that football is now primarily about money, not sport, and that's not going to change any time soon. The PL is very closed to being a closed shop now, and it will become ever more so. I wish the EFL would just breakaway from the EPL and be done with it. Start again. Make football primarily about sport, not money. [Post edited 28 May 20:15]
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| Premier League Prize Money on 20:20 - May 28 with 711 views | NewBee |
| Premier League Prize Money on 18:08 - May 28 by KensalT |
Some good points there.
With respect to German clubs the 50 + 1 ownership rule only came into effect in 1999 and there have been questions from the German Federal Cartel Office over whether the rule is anti-competitive:
"Since its introduction in 1999, the 50+1 rule’s compliance with competition law has been hotly contested. In 2019, following a request from the DFL that the FCO declare that there was no ground for action in this matter, the FCO formally launched an investigation.
In its 2021 preliminary findings, the FCO stated that the 50+1 rule may constitute a restriction of competition, but considered the main goals of the rule are legitimate"
https://www.linklaters.com/en/insights/blogs/sportinglinks/2023/april/the-new-fo
So far those rules have still been upheld but I wouldn't take it for granted that they couldn't be changed at some point in the future if it became expedient to do so. It's not like they have been around forever.
With regards to your point three. The 2021 attempt to launch a Super League was a bit of a dogs dinner. But at the time many were questioning whether it was a serious move for a breakaway league or just a manoeuvre to force UEFA to grant more concessions to the big clubs.
In truth the 2021 initiative and its true motives are difficult to read. The fact that Real, Barca, and Juve have stuck with it and even threatened litigation against the clubs who got cold feet does suggest that they at least saw it as a serious attempt at a breakaway league.
But as you acknowledge UEFA have managed to stall the process by, um, giving ground to the big clubs. Hmmm.
So who really holds the power here? The big clubs or UEFA?
In the meantime A22 Sports Management letter to UEFA proposing a Unity League of 96 teams can be read here:
https://a22sports.s3.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/files/8517/3452/2219/UEFALetter_ENG
In the submission they reference "the December 21, 2023, decision of the Court of Justice of the European Union"
An analysis of that decision can be read here:
https://chambers.com/legal-trends/eu-court-updates-on-football-governingbodies
But I think the key paragraph is:
"The CJEU underlined the economic nature of organising inter-club football competitions and the exploitation of media rights, and therefore asserted that such activities fall under EU competition rules and the fundamental principles of free movement. Despite the specific characteristics of sports governance, including the regulatory powers wielded by associations like FIFA and UEFA and their ability to impose sanctions, the CJEU stressed that FIFA and UEFA’s regulatory framework lacked transparent, objective, non-discriminatory and proportionate criteria in determining access to the market, concluding that the exercise of their authority constituted an abuse of dominant position."
So I respectfully disagree with you about the prospects for pan European football competitions. And while I don't think it will happen today or tomorrow it will come eventually and when it does the TV money will follow. |
Re the Germans, even if the 50%+1 rule was overturned tomorrow, the fans would still oppose it, just as those in England did. And German fans are VERY organised eg they've successfully kept ticket prices down, or prevented Monday night football.
While in Spain, their FA (RFEF) are implacably opposed.
As for RM/Juve/Barca "threatening" legal action against the other 9 permanent members, that's all they've done, threaten - no sign of them actually following up on it, incl against Inter and Atletico, who pulled out a couple of days after the English clubs. AC Milan have since followed. While last June, Juve themselves effectively "threw in the towel" by applying to rejoin the European Clubs Association, from which they'd been ejected for their part in the ESL. Meaning only Real and Barca remain on board - and they hate each other in every other respect!
As for UEFA, by buying off a few more big clubs with their new competition formats/prize money, they've effectively managed to keep them on side. So that, along with the support of all their member FA's, plus hundreds of clubs which would never qualify for an ESL. While retaining a structure - CL/EL/Conf - which allows open access, and distributes proceeds widely etc, I'd say their position is rock solid.
Oh, and Betis have just gone 1-0 up over Chelsea.
Callooh Callay!  | | | |
| Premier League Prize Money on 20:23 - May 28 with 690 views | ManinBlack |
I assume with Sky increasing their live games, from 128 this season to 215 next, that this will bring in more money for the Premier league clubs. Add to that about half the league will be in Europe next season, it looks increasingly difficult for the three promoted clubs to survive. This season the three promoted clubs looked doomed well before the season ended. |  | | |
| Premier League Prize Money on 20:24 - May 28 with 688 views | KensalT |
| Premier League Prize Money on 20:20 - May 28 by NewBee |
Re the Germans, even if the 50%+1 rule was overturned tomorrow, the fans would still oppose it, just as those in England did. And German fans are VERY organised eg they've successfully kept ticket prices down, or prevented Monday night football.
While in Spain, their FA (RFEF) are implacably opposed.
As for RM/Juve/Barca "threatening" legal action against the other 9 permanent members, that's all they've done, threaten - no sign of them actually following up on it, incl against Inter and Atletico, who pulled out a couple of days after the English clubs. AC Milan have since followed. While last June, Juve themselves effectively "threw in the towel" by applying to rejoin the European Clubs Association, from which they'd been ejected for their part in the ESL. Meaning only Real and Barca remain on board - and they hate each other in every other respect!
As for UEFA, by buying off a few more big clubs with their new competition formats/prize money, they've effectively managed to keep them on side. So that, along with the support of all their member FA's, plus hundreds of clubs which would never qualify for an ESL. While retaining a structure - CL/EL/Conf - which allows open access, and distributes proceeds widely etc, I'd say their position is rock solid.
Oh, and Betis have just gone 1-0 up over Chelsea.
Callooh Callay! |
At least we can agree that Betis leading Chelsea is a good thing :-) | | | |
| Premier League Prize Money on 20:30 - May 28 with 668 views | KensalT |
| Premier League Prize Money on 20:20 - May 28 by NewBee |
Re the Germans, even if the 50%+1 rule was overturned tomorrow, the fans would still oppose it, just as those in England did. And German fans are VERY organised eg they've successfully kept ticket prices down, or prevented Monday night football.
While in Spain, their FA (RFEF) are implacably opposed.
As for RM/Juve/Barca "threatening" legal action against the other 9 permanent members, that's all they've done, threaten - no sign of them actually following up on it, incl against Inter and Atletico, who pulled out a couple of days after the English clubs. AC Milan have since followed. While last June, Juve themselves effectively "threw in the towel" by applying to rejoin the European Clubs Association, from which they'd been ejected for their part in the ESL. Meaning only Real and Barca remain on board - and they hate each other in every other respect!
As for UEFA, by buying off a few more big clubs with their new competition formats/prize money, they've effectively managed to keep them on side. So that, along with the support of all their member FA's, plus hundreds of clubs which would never qualify for an ESL. While retaining a structure - CL/EL/Conf - which allows open access, and distributes proceeds widely etc, I'd say their position is rock solid.
Oh, and Betis have just gone 1-0 up over Chelsea.
Callooh Callay! |
Under English law you have up to six years to start litigation for a breach of contract claim. So there's still time.
Fan opposition is a good point. I think the big English clubs were taken aback by the opposition in 2021 which caused them to pull back.
But we are still nudging towards a position where the big clubs have more power and the governing bodies are being told in court that their practices are contrary to competition law.
They've just gone for evolution over revolution. | | | |
| Premier League Prize Money on 21:06 - May 28 with 604 views | NewBee |
| Premier League Prize Money on 20:23 - May 28 by ManinBlack |
I assume with Sky increasing their live games, from 128 this season to 215 next, that this will bring in more money for the Premier league clubs. Add to that about half the league will be in Europe next season, it looks increasingly difficult for the three promoted clubs to survive. This season the three promoted clubs looked doomed well before the season ended. |
Actually no. The UK market for PL broadcasting rights has plateaued - see eg BT/TNT withdrawing.
Meaning that SKY have been able to negotiate lots more games for basically the same fee.
However, the overseas markets are booming, so that overall revenues have continued to grow strongly. For example, NBC paid an astounding $2.7bn in 2019 for PL rights through to end 2027/28:
https://www.sportcal.com/media/nbc-forks-out-mammoth-2-7bn-to-retain-english-pre
Think about that - Americans have never been that big on sawker, and insofar as some may now be, they've got their own MLS without the inconvenient time difference. | | | |
| Premier League Prize Money on 21:18 - May 28 with 582 views | KensalT |
| Premier League Prize Money on 21:06 - May 28 by NewBee |
Actually no. The UK market for PL broadcasting rights has plateaued - see eg BT/TNT withdrawing.
Meaning that SKY have been able to negotiate lots more games for basically the same fee.
However, the overseas markets are booming, so that overall revenues have continued to grow strongly. For example, NBC paid an astounding $2.7bn in 2019 for PL rights through to end 2027/28:
https://www.sportcal.com/media/nbc-forks-out-mammoth-2-7bn-to-retain-english-pre
Think about that - Americans have never been that big on sawker, and insofar as some may now be, they've got their own MLS without the inconvenient time difference. |
You are forgetting how many English clubs currently have American (or other foreign) ownership.
If clubs succeed in establishing pan-national leagues then what's to stop them moving their shiny "franchises" away from dreary old Manchester or Newcastle where TV monies have plateaued and moving them lock stock and barrel to booming new markets like Florida or Saudi??
Obviously a very long way off but don't discount the possibility. | | | |
| Premier League Prize Money on 21:45 - May 28 with 545 views | Loft1979 |
Given the clear thirst for English football on TV, as seen in new monies, I can see the re-address of the way teams are carved up in leagues (American style) to further entice international audiences. add to that even more opportunity to invite investment. .. Calling Juan Soto. |  | | |
| Premier League Prize Money on 21:58 - May 28 with 524 views | NewBee |
| Premier League Prize Money on 21:18 - May 28 by KensalT |
You are forgetting how many English clubs currently have American (or other foreign) ownership.
If clubs succeed in establishing pan-national leagues then what's to stop them moving their shiny "franchises" away from dreary old Manchester or Newcastle where TV monies have plateaued and moving them lock stock and barrel to booming new markets like Florida or Saudi??
Obviously a very long way off but don't discount the possibility. |
After the fans scuppered the ESL in a weekend, the six clubs' billionaire owners, 3 of them Yanks, did what they've never done before in their lives: they admitted they were wrong and apologised. Publicly.
While the PL's proposal for a "Game 39", to be played (where else?) in the USA, has been quietly buried.
And there is still no sign of pan-national leagues, despite talk of them for years, pre-ESL.
And even if there were, why would eg the Glazers move the MUFC franchise away from Manchester, where they've already made gazillions, and risk taking to Florida etc?
Remember, they'd be competing directly with NFL, NBA, NHL and Baseball etc, also the MLS. Moreover, the big money in football is to be found in worldwide TV rights, with Europe ideally placed between Asian and American timezones, with Europe itself remaining the most valuable market of the lot.
So trust me, if/when QPR finally leave W12, no matter how far in the future, it will still be to another postcode, not a zipcode! | | | |
| Premier League Prize Money on 22:06 - May 28 with 500 views | NewBee |
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Under English law you have up to six years to start litigation for a breach of contract claim. So there's still time.
Fan opposition is a good point. I think the big English clubs were taken aback by the opposition in 2021 which caused them to pull back.
But we are still nudging towards a position where the big clubs have more power and the governing bodies are being told in court that their practices are contrary to competition law.
They've just gone for evolution over revolution. |
Don't get me wrong, most of the PL owners, from USA at least, would move to Venus, if they thought that would bring in more money. But why leave England, where all the money already is?
While the PL continues to pull ever further away from the other big leagues, with no sign of that changing - see eg Chelsea (4th in the PL) hammering Betis (6th in La Liga) again tonight.
Bastards. | | | |
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