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Mad Football Stats & Facts 22:19 - May 27 with 1980 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

Since Jonny Evans left, Man United now have a entire squad that hasn’t played for Alex Ferguson for the first time since 1973 (52 years)

[Post edited 27 May 22:20]
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Mad Football Stats & Facts on 23:55 - May 27 with 1825 viewsNewBee

It's actually the first season there’s not a single player who played under either Fergie or Busby since the 1930’s, a 100 year legacy between them.

Or so I've read.
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Mad Football Stats & Facts on 06:42 - May 28 with 1637 viewsstowmarketrange

Mad Football Stats & Facts on 23:55 - May 27 by NewBee

It's actually the first season there’s not a single player who played under either Fergie or Busby since the 1930’s, a 100 year legacy between them.

Or so I've read.


Gary Birtles was only there from 1980-82,so that’s at least one who wasn’t there under either manager.I’m sure there are loads more signed by docherty and big Ron who didn’t last long.
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Mad Football Stats & Facts on 07:43 - May 28 with 1540 viewsGus_iom

Mad Football Stats & Facts on 06:42 - May 28 by stowmarketrange

Gary Birtles was only there from 1980-82,so that’s at least one who wasn’t there under either manager.I’m sure there are loads more signed by docherty and big Ron who didn’t last long.


It's getting that you can't even make up your own stats on here anymore.
Personally, I care enough to argue but not enough to research, and I'm sticking to that as a point of principle.
So when I quote stats and facts, although not factually correct, they do provide insight into my truth and should be treated as the truth, even when I clearly made them up.

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Mad Football Stats & Facts on 09:05 - May 28 with 1453 viewsTheChef

Who the hell was at Manure in 72/73, that was still there in 1986??

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Mad Football Stats & Facts on 09:18 - May 28 with 1428 viewsstowmarketrange

Mad Football Stats & Facts on 09:05 - May 28 by TheChef

Who the hell was at Manure in 72/73, that was still there in 1986??


George Best was possibly asleep in the bar somewhere.
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Mad Football Stats & Facts on 09:33 - May 28 with 1383 viewsDannyPaddox

Mad Football Stats & Facts on 09:05 - May 28 by TheChef

Who the hell was at Manure in 72/73, that was still there in 1986??


Arthur Albiston oh Albiston

Joined Man U in ‘72. Debuted in ‘74 and played for them till ‘88 so the ‘73 Ferguson stat holds up. Quite incredible.
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Mad Football Stats & Facts on 09:37 - May 28 with 1357 viewsTheChef

Mad Football Stats & Facts on 09:33 - May 28 by DannyPaddox

Arthur Albiston oh Albiston

Joined Man U in ‘72. Debuted in ‘74 and played for them till ‘88 so the ‘73 Ferguson stat holds up. Quite incredible.


Kin ell didn't realise he was such an old b'stard.

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Mad Football Stats & Facts on 12:18 - May 28 with 1208 viewsFredManRave

Mad Football Stats & Facts on 07:43 - May 28 by Gus_iom

It's getting that you can't even make up your own stats on here anymore.
Personally, I care enough to argue but not enough to research, and I'm sticking to that as a point of principle.
So when I quote stats and facts, although not factually correct, they do provide insight into my truth and should be treated as the truth, even when I clearly made them up.


8 out of 10 LFW posters categorically stated that they prefer my real stats to your made up ones.

FACT.

I've got the Power.
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Mad Football Stats & Facts on 15:15 - May 28 with 1064 viewsRassilon

(Wikipedia on a boring train journey...)
Arthur Albiston signed for Man U. a year after Matt Busby left, but he overlaps with players who were there under Busby.
Alex Stepney didn't leave until '78 having joined in 1966, so was there with Arthur for six years.
Matt Busby became manager in 1945, straight after WW2 and his squad included players signed pre-war.
Bert Whalley played for Man U before and after the war, then joined Matt Busby's coaching staff (sadly dying at Munich). Bert signed for Man United on the 7th May 1934.
I can't see anyone earlier than that who played post-war, so that does appear to be the earliest date that there were no Man U players who played for either Sir Matt or Sir Alex.
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Mad Football Stats & Facts on 16:12 - May 28 with 1001 viewsNewBee

Mad Football Stats & Facts on 06:42 - May 28 by stowmarketrange

Gary Birtles was only there from 1980-82,so that’s at least one who wasn’t there under either manager.I’m sure there are loads more signed by docherty and big Ron who didn’t last long.


Wah?

Never mind Birtles, there will have been scores, possibly even hundreds, of players who were at MU during those (nearly) hundred years who didn't play for either.

The point, however, is that it has been claimed that there was always one who did, with Evans being the last of a very long line.
[Post edited 28 May 16:14]
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Mad Football Stats & Facts on 17:41 - May 28 with 929 viewsGus_iom

Mad Football Stats & Facts on 12:18 - May 28 by FredManRave

8 out of 10 LFW posters categorically stated that they prefer my real stats to your made up ones.

FACT.


That's because you framed the question in a leading manner.
When I did a follow up questionnaire, in my head, with more neutral terming of the question, I factualised that I was overwhelmingly more popular then you.
And that's factwang.

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Mad Football Stats & Facts on 19:07 - May 28 with 853 viewsstowmarketrange

Mad Football Stats & Facts on 16:12 - May 28 by NewBee

Wah?

Never mind Birtles, there will have been scores, possibly even hundreds, of players who were at MU during those (nearly) hundred years who didn't play for either.

The point, however, is that it has been claimed that there was always one who did, with Evans being the last of a very long line.
[Post edited 28 May 16:14]


But that’s not what you claimed to have read.
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Mad Football Stats & Facts on 23:05 - May 28 with 712 viewsNewBee

Mad Football Stats & Facts on 19:07 - May 28 by stowmarketrange

But that’s not what you claimed to have read.


I thought it was. Oh well, I know what I meant.

Meanwhile, Chelsea beating Betis tonight, made them the first foreign team to beat a Spanish side in a final since 2002.

Spanish teams had won the past 27 finals in men's European club or international football to involve a side from that country.

(And if you think that is unclear, don't blame me, I cut & pasted it from the BBC)
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Mad Football Stats & Facts on 01:16 - May 29 with 649 viewsed_83

Mad Football Stats & Facts on 15:15 - May 28 by Rassilon

(Wikipedia on a boring train journey...)
Arthur Albiston signed for Man U. a year after Matt Busby left, but he overlaps with players who were there under Busby.
Alex Stepney didn't leave until '78 having joined in 1966, so was there with Arthur for six years.
Matt Busby became manager in 1945, straight after WW2 and his squad included players signed pre-war.
Bert Whalley played for Man U before and after the war, then joined Matt Busby's coaching staff (sadly dying at Munich). Bert signed for Man United on the 7th May 1934.
I can't see anyone earlier than that who played post-war, so that does appear to be the earliest date that there were no Man U players who played for either Sir Matt or Sir Alex.


Bored and can’t sleep - there’s at least one earlier player: George Vose signed for Man United in 1932 and played a single game for them after the war.

http://www.lusoweb.co.uk/legend33.htm
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Mad Football Stats & Facts on 01:30 - May 29 with 636 viewssilky

Robert Earnshaw is the only football player in history to of scored a hattrick in the PL and the 3 divisions below.

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Mad Football Stats & Facts on 07:02 - May 29 with 519 viewsSonic_Hoop

In 1969, an eight-year-old Gary Lineker attended the FA Cup final as Leicester lost to Manchester City. Peter Shilton was in goal for Leicester that day. Lineker went on to play with Shilton for England for almost a decade, and still retired from playing three years before him
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Mad Football Stats & Facts on 09:32 - May 29 with 405 viewsMrSheen

Nottingham Forest’s Tinsley Lindley scored 14 goals in 13 England appearances while wearing brogues. He didn’t like boots.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinsley_Lindley
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Mad Football Stats & Facts on 17:34 - May 30 with 79 viewsNewBee

Mad Football Stats & Facts on 09:32 - May 29 by MrSheen

Nottingham Forest’s Tinsley Lindley scored 14 goals in 13 England appearances while wearing brogues. He didn’t like boots.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinsley_Lindley


When I read this, the name and the brogues, plus the fact I'd never heard of him (I'm a trivia nerd and proud of it!), made me sure that this was a spoof - and a damned good one, at that - somewhere between Billy's Boots and Barnstoneworth United's Golden Gordon.

And reading his wiki page wasn't exactly dispelling me of that belief, except that all the citations etc stood up.

As for the name, the only match for the magnificent Tinsley Lindley that comes to mind is that of Ireland's Olphert Stanfield, from the same era. Olphert played 30 times between 1887 and 1897, which made him the most capped international footballer of the Victorian era/19th century. Scored 11 times too, pretty impressive considering Ireland regularly got humped by scores incl 0-11, 2-10, 1-9 etc.

Tough-looking hombre, too:

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