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Don't forget we need a "long throw" specialist now, like many teams in the NL.
Having one is one thing,having someone on the end to score from them is different thing. |  | | |
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Last serious long throw merchant I can remember at Dale was Connor Shaughnessy? | | | |
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Last serious long throw merchant I can remember at Dale was Connor Shaughnessy? |
Who played in a relegation side none of us saw in person. |  |
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| Incoming ..... another club teaser on 09:14 - Jun 1 with 3639 views | Dale_4_Life |
Finish first… football league!
The best chance to finish first is score 92 goals or more in 46 games.
Every team want to find him. If we got a 20 plus goals man who also brings others into play bigger contributions from Hendo Rodney Barlow Gilmour and East could see us at the top end next season.
92 goals sounds a lot.. an average of 2 a game not so much. | | | |
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Finish first… football league!
The best chance to finish first is score 92 goals or more in 46 games.
Every team want to find him. If we got a 20 plus goals man who also brings others into play bigger contributions from Hendo Rodney Barlow Gilmour and East could see us at the top end next season.
92 goals sounds a lot.. an average of 2 a game not so much. |
You are dead right about the scorer priority.
In the last 5 seasons the "non-strikers" have scored the following league goals:
2020-21 45 out of 61 (Div 1)
2021-22 35 out of 51 (Div 2)
2022-23 21 out of 46 (Div 2)
2023-24 37 out of 69 (NL)
2024-25 24 out of 69 (NL)
That last statistic cost us dear this season.
Allarakia 2 goals
Gilmour 2
East 2
A/R 2
McBride 4
Barlow 4
Others 8 (incl 2 Own Goals)
The big question here is whether Jim`s tactics prevent them from contributing goals, or do we jut have a bad set of alternative goalscorers? | | | |
| Incoming ..... another club teaser on 13:36 - Jun 1 with 3237 views | Dale_4_Life |
Allarakia 2 goals
Gilmour 2
East 2
A/R 2
McBride 4
Barlow 4
I agree those 6 all more than capable of significantly more goals
If 92 is the magic number then below is a suggestion of what will be required 25/26 season to mount a serious challenge.
New man 20
Rodney 15
Hendo 15
Allarakia 6 goals
Gilmour 6
East 6
TAR 2
McBride 6
Barlow 6
Others 10
Over to Jim really to make Dale into the PSG of the National league.
Finding that new man is one hell of a challenge for the Club. [Post edited 1 Jun 13:38]
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| Incoming ..... another club teaser on 13:54 - Jun 1 with 3188 views | Dale_4_Life |
Back to Bryce Hosannah ...
Speaks well, I know the young kids now have media training but he seems confident and raring to go.
Obviously we need to see him play, signs are good he has bags of pace that should help us move play forward quicker something we did not do often enough last season.
Welcome Bryce and good luck fella. | | | |
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| Incoming ..... another club teaser on 19:45 - May 31 by Yorkshire_Dale |
Don't forget we need a "long throw" specialist now, like many teams in the NL.
Having one is one thing,having someone on the end to score from them is different thing. |
I've stated this previously, surely we have someone in the squad who's able to throw a ball into the oppositions box, then I realised that McNumpty will never advocate the "long throw" as it's much too crude of a tactic for his "tippy, tappy tripe" style of play - having said you're spot on Yorkshire you need someone on the end of it and Mitchell was a tap in specialist from not so hard low crosses from wide, he couldn't/can't head or control a high ball therefore, no point in a long throw when he was in the team ! |  | | |
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| Incoming ..... another club teaser on 16:33 - Jun 1 with 2965 views | diplodocus |
| Incoming ..... another club teaser on 13:36 - Jun 1 by Dale_4_Life |
Allarakia 2 goals
Gilmour 2
East 2
A/R 2
McBride 4
Barlow 4
I agree those 6 all more than capable of significantly more goals
If 92 is the magic number then below is a suggestion of what will be required 25/26 season to mount a serious challenge.
New man 20
Rodney 15
Hendo 15
Allarakia 6 goals
Gilmour 6
East 6
TAR 2
McBride 6
Barlow 6
Others 10
Over to Jim really to make Dale into the PSG of the National league.
Finding that new man is one hell of a challenge for the Club. [Post edited 1 Jun 13:38]
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Really can't see BJ giving Hendo enough games to get 15 goals. wish he could, but a lot depends on acquiring a 'very' good striker. | | | |
| Incoming ..... another club teaser on 23:28 - Jun 1 with 2600 views | James1980 |
Where has 92 goals come from? | |
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| Incoming ..... another club teaser on 07:54 - Jun 2 with 2366 views | Dale_4_Life |
| Incoming ..... another club teaser on 23:28 - Jun 1 by James1980 |
Where has 92 goals come from? |
James,
Only one side is automatically promoted it would be nice to finish a season as champions.
Historically goals scored to finish 1st below. We look 25 goals short currently so with no change in attitude the best we can hope for is 7th or higher and the play off lottery.
24/25 Barnet 97
23/24 Chesterfield 106
22/23 Wrexham 116
21/22 Stockport 87 | | | |
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We need a threat from set pieces and corners. In 2 seasons under McNulty now we've not had one. The opposition goals scored in the play off games show how important aerial threat is. Just look at Dawson in our promotion season - sometimes tight games are won with just 1 cross into a dangerous area. |
'sometimes tight games are won with just 1 cross into a dangerous area.'
Even play off finals at Wembley! |  |
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| Incoming ..... another club teaser on 07:54 - Jun 2 by Dale_4_Life |
James,
Only one side is automatically promoted it would be nice to finish a season as champions.
Historically goals scored to finish 1st below. We look 25 goals short currently so with no change in attitude the best we can hope for is 7th or higher and the play off lottery.
24/25 Barnet 97
23/24 Chesterfield 106
22/23 Wrexham 116
21/22 Stockport 87 |
I mean, I would suspect the 3 year plan is based on promotion via the playoffs. I don't see that we will ever have the 'clout' required to win the league. It does make the whole season seem a tad pointless I must admit. | | | |
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James,
Only one side is automatically promoted it would be nice to finish a season as champions.
Historically goals scored to finish 1st below. We look 25 goals short currently so with no change in attitude the best we can hope for is 7th or higher and the play off lottery.
24/25 Barnet 97
23/24 Chesterfield 106
22/23 Wrexham 116
21/22 Stockport 87 |
In past seasons less goals have been scored by the champions. For example Macclesfield scored 67 in the 17/18 season and Orient scored 73 in the 18/19 season | |
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In past seasons less goals have been scored by the champions. For example Macclesfield scored 67 in the 17/18 season and Orient scored 73 in the 18/19 season |
Score more than you concede in every game has always been a winning formula. | |
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| Incoming ..... another club teaser on 13:20 - Jun 2 with 1911 views | samueloneils |
Did anyone pick up the irony in the latest news on the Dale website entitled
Walking football at the COA. | | | |
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Score more than you concede in every game has always been a winning formula. |
But scoring a lot more goals would even give us a chance to win the league, which is probably the only way we will get out of this league with Jim`s knockout and key match record. | | | |
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In past seasons less goals have been scored by the champions. For example Macclesfield scored 67 in the 17/18 season and Orient scored 73 in the 18/19 season |
James,
I would happily take 36 goals if we won 36 games 1-0 and drew 0-0 in the other 10.
Dale have never finished a season in 1st place so I appreciate 92 goals in a 46 game league season is unlikely..
I would love to be proven wrong with bucket loads of fast pace attacking football and every summer I dream. | | | |
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Score more than you concede in every game has always been a winning formula. |
KER-CHING! and thats it in a nutshell. perhaps that's Bj's formula; score a goal then sit back sitting on a lead. of course it falls flat if we go behind or can't score. it reminds me a bit of KH's philosophy, when he was dead against shooting from outside the box: as he reckoned that as most goals were scored from inside the box, it made sense to get the ball in. | | | |
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But scoring a lot more goals would even give us a chance to win the league, which is probably the only way we will get out of this league with Jim`s knockout and key match record. |
Barnet lost 1 game to nil and drew 4 games 0-0.... Lost 6 games overall Fail To Score= 5
York City lost 3 games to nil and drew 2 games 0-0 Lost 8 overall FTS= 5
FGR lost 4 games to nil and drew 3 games 0-0 Lost 7 overall FTS = 7
Rochdale lost 10 games to nil and drew 4 games 0-0 and Lost 14 games overall FTS = 14
Oldham lost 5 games to nil and drew 3 games 0-0 Lost 11 overall FTS= 8
Halifax lost 10 games to nil and drew 5 games 0-0 Lost 14 overall FTYS= 15
Southend lost 8 games to nil and drew 6 games 0-0 Lost 12 overall FTS= 14 |  | | |
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Barnet lost 1 game to nil and drew 4 games 0-0.... Lost 6 games overall Fail To Score= 5
York City lost 3 games to nil and drew 2 games 0-0 Lost 8 overall FTS= 5
FGR lost 4 games to nil and drew 3 games 0-0 Lost 7 overall FTS = 7
Rochdale lost 10 games to nil and drew 4 games 0-0 and Lost 14 games overall FTS = 14
Oldham lost 5 games to nil and drew 3 games 0-0 Lost 11 overall FTS= 8
Halifax lost 10 games to nil and drew 5 games 0-0 Lost 14 overall FTYS= 15
Southend lost 8 games to nil and drew 6 games 0-0 Lost 12 overall FTS= 14 |
Remember that post about needing prolific strikers being shown to be wrong?
Well with this one, we can look at the fact that Rochdale got more points, scored more goals and won more games than the three clubs below them but not the three clubs above them. Crucially, Oldham won the games that mattered and Rochdale didn’t. Neither did York, Forest Green, Halifax and Southend.
In the biggest game that mattered, Rochdale scored three goals.
Would Dale fans have been happy watching their side play like Oldham have since Christmas if it meant winning promotion? In that period, prior to the play offs, they had scored 26 goals in 25 games.
There are different ways to win promotion from this division. Dale need to find one of those ways. [Post edited 2 Jun 19:43]
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Remember that post about needing prolific strikers being shown to be wrong?
Well with this one, we can look at the fact that Rochdale got more points, scored more goals and won more games than the three clubs below them but not the three clubs above them. Crucially, Oldham won the games that mattered and Rochdale didn’t. Neither did York, Forest Green, Halifax and Southend.
In the biggest game that mattered, Rochdale scored three goals.
Would Dale fans have been happy watching their side play like Oldham have since Christmas if it meant winning promotion? In that period, prior to the play offs, they had scored 26 goals in 25 games.
There are different ways to win promotion from this division. Dale need to find one of those ways. [Post edited 2 Jun 19:43]
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I think this year the national league ballsed up and gave an advantage to the sides that won the 1st eliminator. York and FG had more than 2 weeks to wait for the semi final and the winners of that eliminator had a week rest plus momentum to take into the semi final. To me the teams finishing 2nd and 3rd were at a slight disadvantage going into that semi. Interesting to see if that changes next season. Previous years the 1st eliminator was 3/4 days before the semi final so the winning team playing in this had much less recovery time. In a game with fine margins these sort of things make a difference. [Post edited 2 Jun 21:15]
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I think this year the national league ballsed up and gave an advantage to the sides that won the 1st eliminator. York and FG had more than 2 weeks to wait for the semi final and the winners of that eliminator had a week rest plus momentum to take into the semi final. To me the teams finishing 2nd and 3rd were at a slight disadvantage going into that semi. Interesting to see if that changes next season. Previous years the 1st eliminator was 3/4 days before the semi final so the winning team playing in this had much less recovery time. In a game with fine margins these sort of things make a difference. [Post edited 2 Jun 21:15]
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It would be fairer if it was 2 v 5 home and away.
3 v 4 home and away. Get rid of the eliminators for 6th and 7th as weve seen this year with a 28 point gap to 2nd place. Then all the teams play an equal number of games over a similar rest period. | |
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It would be fairer if it was 2 v 5 home and away.
3 v 4 home and away. Get rid of the eliminators for 6th and 7th as weve seen this year with a 28 point gap to 2nd place. Then all the teams play an equal number of games over a similar rest period. |
That would mean a reduction in play off places which gives clubs less chance of getting out of the league and more dead rubber games for clubs near the end of the season. The point gap to the second place team is an irrelevance, every club knew at the start of the season that automatic promotion could only be achieved by winning the league. York might feel hard done by but the rules of the competition are the same for all clubs. Oldham thoroughly deserved their promotion via the play offs, the manager believed they could win them and so did their fans. Three promotion spots or even four would be preferable. [Post edited 3 Jun 8:30]
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Barnet lost 1 game to nil and drew 4 games 0-0.... Lost 6 games overall Fail To Score= 5
York City lost 3 games to nil and drew 2 games 0-0 Lost 8 overall FTS= 5
FGR lost 4 games to nil and drew 3 games 0-0 Lost 7 overall FTS = 7
Rochdale lost 10 games to nil and drew 4 games 0-0 and Lost 14 games overall FTS = 14
Oldham lost 5 games to nil and drew 3 games 0-0 Lost 11 overall FTS= 8
Halifax lost 10 games to nil and drew 5 games 0-0 Lost 14 overall FTYS= 15
Southend lost 8 games to nil and drew 6 games 0-0 Lost 12 overall FTS= 14 |
Rochdale lost 10 games to nil and drew 4 games 0-0 and Lost 14 games overall FTS = 14
FTS 14 times is too much for a top side...
If the board have given Big Jim a more adventurous brief and a budget to succeed combined with an acceptance we missed a trick last season and will put that right... We could have one hell of a season next year..
Of course Carlisle / York / Southend / Forest Green and probably 2 or 3 surprise packages will all be chasing the elusive promotion spot. | | | |
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