| Starmer's welfare cuts 18:09 - Jun 24 with 3963 views | SullutaCreturned |
I agree with what he's trying to do, mostly anyway but it looks like rebellion in the Labour ranks,
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| Starmer's welfare cuts on 21:18 - Jun 27 with 617 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Starmer's welfare cuts on 11:37 - Jun 27 by Scotia |
Well as a comparison Swansea Council has a budget of £900 million a year, Eddie Stobart have a turnover of about £900 million a year.
The Cheif Exec of Swansea Council earns about £170 k a year the Cheif Exec of Eddie Stobart pockets about £6 million. |
It's a lot harder to make £900M a year than spend £900M of other people's money. |  |
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| Starmer's welfare cuts on 22:36 - Jun 27 with 549 views | max936 |
| Starmer's welfare cuts on 10:00 - Jun 27 by swan65split |
the wage isnt everything though is it?  feet under the table, mixing with the wealthy and influential, friend of a friend , and all that jazz.  |
It's what the earn outside of their parliamentary duties [a joke in itself] and what the benefits they get after their time in parliament that counts, it's true what the say, it's best to play the long game. |  |
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| Starmer's welfare cuts on 23:16 - Jun 27 with 529 views | Boundy |
| Starmer's welfare cuts on 15:15 - Jun 27 by Scotia |
I think it's about right as it is - pay award should follow independent reccomendations. % pay increases aren't ideal but it's the only way to accurately reward seniority and prevent grade creep between roles.
People in the public sector should be paid based on the complexity of their job and in some cases more depending on external market forces and associated retention issues.
In the private sector nobody would be prepared to have responsibility for a £900 million budget and employ 10000 people for £170k a year.
I think our public services are in a shocking state and we all need to pay more to get them up to scratch. Everyone should pay more or expect less. |
"I think our public services are in a shocking state and we all need to pay more to get them up to scratch. Everyone should pay more or expect less."
How much will ever be enough ,maybe if those who control how our money is spent were made more accountable then perhaps public services would be in less of a mess you say they are, ever since I can remember there's never ever been enough ,police, teachers, social workers. The UK tax burden has increased to the highest level since 1948. In the past three decades, the burden has risen from 28% to 37% of GDP and will continue to rise with the typical household expected to pay an extra £650 a year from April so why do you believe the increase taxes on an already over burdened taxpayer will improve what we already pay heavily for. | |
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| Starmer's welfare cuts on 09:11 - Jun 28 with 456 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Starmer's welfare cuts on 09:29 - Jun 27 by Scotia |
It's not just Labour rebels. Everyone seems to think that.
We need to pay more and government spend less or expect less in return. |
I sort of agree, we are in this position largely due to the Blair/Brown years when they skyrocketed the deficit AND the debt, we never rcovered from that and no government since has done very much to get the debt down because the demand on public services keeps increasing as the population grows. That is partly why unfettered immigration is wrong because so many immigrants come here and need financial help to get started not to forget the fortunes spent on the illegal immigrants.
If anything there should be a new tax, 2p in the pound and it goes straight to paying off the debt. We pay over 105 BILLION every year just on the interest. The debt is around 2.8 TRILLION and rising with the bill per household currentky at around 98k.
The deficit currently stands at around 70 billion, if we could cancel the debt we'd have 30 billion more for public services and still be in the black.
Maybe we need to go bankrupt and start again. | | | |
| Starmer's welfare cuts on 10:28 - Jun 28 with 415 views | Dr_Winston |
| Starmer's welfare cuts on 09:11 - Jun 28 by SullutaCreturned |
I sort of agree, we are in this position largely due to the Blair/Brown years when they skyrocketed the deficit AND the debt, we never rcovered from that and no government since has done very much to get the debt down because the demand on public services keeps increasing as the population grows. That is partly why unfettered immigration is wrong because so many immigrants come here and need financial help to get started not to forget the fortunes spent on the illegal immigrants.
If anything there should be a new tax, 2p in the pound and it goes straight to paying off the debt. We pay over 105 BILLION every year just on the interest. The debt is around 2.8 TRILLION and rising with the bill per household currentky at around 98k.
The deficit currently stands at around 70 billion, if we could cancel the debt we'd have 30 billion more for public services and still be in the black.
Maybe we need to go bankrupt and start again. |
Your diagnosis of where the problem started is spot on. It also probably hasn't helped that the first five years after the New Labour Govt we had Tory wets constrained by the Lib Dems, where increases in spending all across the board somehow became "austerity", and then the whammy of Covid, where hundreds of Billions of pounds were spent paying people with essentially zero risk of harm to sit at home, not to mention the ongoing costs, inflation, mental health harm etc.
For nearly Thirty years now the UK Government has spent money like a drunken sailor on shore leave whilst simultaneously inviting millions more people into our borders to ramp up the pressure on services. Eventually something will have to give. This Government is too scared of its own MP's to even begin the process. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Starmer's welfare cuts on 12:55 - Jun 28 with 347 views | trampie |
They reckon Gordon Brown saved the World not just Blighty during the 2008 financial crisis, he came in for international praise and other countries followed his lead, I don't know enough about it to personally comment. |  |
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| Starmer's welfare cuts on 13:16 - Jun 28 with 333 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Starmer's welfare cuts on 09:11 - Jun 28 by SullutaCreturned |
I sort of agree, we are in this position largely due to the Blair/Brown years when they skyrocketed the deficit AND the debt, we never rcovered from that and no government since has done very much to get the debt down because the demand on public services keeps increasing as the population grows. That is partly why unfettered immigration is wrong because so many immigrants come here and need financial help to get started not to forget the fortunes spent on the illegal immigrants.
If anything there should be a new tax, 2p in the pound and it goes straight to paying off the debt. We pay over 105 BILLION every year just on the interest. The debt is around 2.8 TRILLION and rising with the bill per household currentky at around 98k.
The deficit currently stands at around 70 billion, if we could cancel the debt we'd have 30 billion more for public services and still be in the black.
Maybe we need to go bankrupt and start again. |
The media and politicos have given a special word for tackling paying off debt. Paying of debt and running a surplus is good but we are like a dysfunctional family and spend what ever money come in.
Labour lefties the including the Welsh Senedd leader could not resist leftist grandstanding with an election coming up. Labour can not balance the books and keep unity.
The word with negative connotations for balancing the books is AUSTERITY.
People want to balance the books but no one wants "austerity". The BBC politicos throw this word about for fun [Post edited 30 Jun 18:41]
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| Starmer's welfare cuts on 13:22 - Jun 28 with 333 views | majorraglan |
| Starmer's welfare cuts on 19:24 - Jun 27 by max936 |
There's to many rich div's who think they can be politicians whilst not having the first idea and that's why this country is F'ed because they've got no idea on the value of money and our money at that. |
That’s a fair point. When we had all the Brexit stuff going on we had people like Raab leading on policy etc when they didn’t understand the significance of some of the things they supposed to be leading on, for example the importance of Dover /Calais to U.K. trade. What’s even more concerning is that his Special Advisors who are supposed to brief him etc didn’t understand it either. | | | |
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| Starmer's welfare cuts on 19:28 - Jun 28 with 256 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Starmer's welfare cuts on 13:16 - Jun 28 by ReslovenSwan1 |
The media and politicos have given a special word for tackling paying off debt. Paying of debt and running a surplus is good but we are like a dysfunctional family and spend what ever money come in.
Labour lefties the including the Welsh Senedd leader could not resist leftist grandstanding with an election coming up. Labour can not balance the books and keep unity.
The word with negative connotations for balancing the books is AUSTERITY.
People want to balance the books but no one wants "austerity". The BBC politicos throw this word about for fun [Post edited 30 Jun 18:41]
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They way things are going, we are going to hit the financial buffers in 2026, I don't think Reeves will be able to find a way through the increase we are seeing in the deficit. | |
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| Starmer's welfare cuts on 20:52 - Jun 28 with 212 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Starmer's welfare cuts on 13:22 - Jun 28 by majorraglan |
That’s a fair point. When we had all the Brexit stuff going on we had people like Raab leading on policy etc when they didn’t understand the significance of some of the things they supposed to be leading on, for example the importance of Dover /Calais to U.K. trade. What’s even more concerning is that his Special Advisors who are supposed to brief him etc didn’t understand it either. |
Those special advisors, were they even bigger idits than I think Raab was? Was it worse than that, were they under the pay of outside influences and advising the government to do things certain business interests wanted?
Government ministers should know enough in their area to be anle to tell when a special advisor is talking BS, this is one of the big problems, ministers often know absolutely nothing about their portfolio so they listen to people who are supposed to know but who, on the face of it, clearly don't know very much.
It's just another big reason why career politicians are a bad thing, leave Uni go straight tow ork for a family member or close friend, see out your internship and then do a Kinnock and get parachuted into a safe seat.
We need experienced people from every area to be chosen (how about a public nomination scheme?) instead of people entering politics early without any real life experience and going on to be dipstick politicians without a clue. | | | |
| Starmer's welfare cuts on 12:39 - Jun 30 with 85 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Starmer's welfare cuts on 14:59 - Jun 26 by Dr_Winston |
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Good find. Welsh Labour does not want to get Welsh people back to work if they are able. Morgan and co should sit s down with Starmer and simply not sign a blank cheque for Labour voting malingerers.
These policies are dragging Wales down. Morgan is showboating and looking after her own position not managing the accounts properly. | |
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| Starmer's welfare cuts on 16:30 - Jun 30 with 43 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
I see that Andy Burnham is getting stuck into Starmer today. Politicians love a bit of weakness to promote themselves no matter what the party. | |
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