| Kealey Adamson - Welcome on 13:13 - Jun 27 with 1530 views | johnhoop |
| Kealey Adamson - Welcome on 12:54 - Jun 27 by Northernr |
Will have some Greg Spires analysis with tonight - apols, we did Poku first.
The positive is he's rapid this lad so they've clearly identified that lack of pace problem in our team. Bad news... I don't know, this feels like Santos MkII to me. Hope I'm wrong. |
Was that because you’re assuming that Poku is as good as done or is that one still in the balance? |  | |  |
| Kealey Adamson - Welcome on 13:15 - Jun 27 with 1528 views | Northernr |
| Kealey Adamson - Welcome on 13:13 - Jun 27 by johnhoop |
Was that because you’re assuming that Poku is as good as done or is that one still in the balance? |
TBH, yeh, but then we had Kieffer Moore and Darren Ambrose written up as well and... |  | | |
| Kealey Adamson - Welcome on 13:18 - Jun 27 with 1515 views | dannyblue |
| Kealey Adamson - Welcome on 12:08 - Jun 27 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
Reckon Dunne will be shifted to centre back. He isn't quick enough as a full back.
Might have a pretty quick team! |
Hope not. Love Jimmy but don't fancy him in the middle at all. It's the panicky scuffed clearances. |  | | |
| Kealey Adamson - Welcome on 13:22 - Jun 27 with 1492 views | dm97 |
| Kealey Adamson - Welcome on 12:54 - Jun 27 by Northernr |
Will have some Greg Spires analysis with tonight - apols, we did Poku first.
The positive is he's rapid this lad so they've clearly identified that lack of pace problem in our team. Bad news... I don't know, this feels like Santos MkII to me. Hope I'm wrong. |
Get what you mean in terms of profile. But just because one cheap punt like that went wrong doesn’t mean this one will. Key word here is ‘cheap’, as with Santos if it goes wrong I feel quite meh about it.
The more interesting thing for me is that Dunne is clearly being considered as the first choice RB from the off, which again leaves the question about style / model / any other GenAi term you want to choose. King Julien (he likes to move it) presumably came in on the game model theory and we know Jimmy is very good at lots of things but build up - not so much.
Just like last year, will Stéphan/Marti adapt to model etc etc |  | | |
| Kealey Adamson - Welcome on 13:53 - Jun 27 with 1384 views | Northernr |
| Kealey Adamson - Welcome on 13:22 - Jun 27 by dm97 |
Get what you mean in terms of profile. But just because one cheap punt like that went wrong doesn’t mean this one will. Key word here is ‘cheap’, as with Santos if it goes wrong I feel quite meh about it.
The more interesting thing for me is that Dunne is clearly being considered as the first choice RB from the off, which again leaves the question about style / model / any other GenAi term you want to choose. King Julien (he likes to move it) presumably came in on the game model theory and we know Jimmy is very good at lots of things but build up - not so much.
Just like last year, will Stéphan/Marti adapt to model etc etc |
Age, style of play, position, coming from a league that isn't physical or intense... | | | |
| Kealey Adamson - Welcome on 13:55 - Jun 27 with 1369 views | W12Mikey |
| Kealey Adamson - Welcome on 12:36 - Jun 27 by Northernr |
I think they're keen to give Larkeche a go. Certainly keener than I am anyway.  |
If your model is to develop young players, you can’t send them out on loan, see them do well as Larkeche seems to have done (albeit acknowledging that the standard in most of the SPL is probably below mid-table Champ) then when they come back bomb them out before pre-season is done.
Obviously I would apply the same logic to Kelman. | | | |
| Kealey Adamson - Welcome on 14:02 - Jun 27 with 1314 views | Hunterhoop |
| Kealey Adamson - Welcome on 12:08 - Jun 27 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
Reckon Dunne will be shifted to centre back. He isn't quick enough as a full back.
Might have a pretty quick team! |
We’re loaded at Centre Half though. Cook, JCS, Morrison, and now Mbengue. The latter two are back ups for the former two if fit. Nourry might not want to have retained Cook, and it’s a fair question if he’s worth the big salary this year, but I bet Stephan will want him to play. He is still very good, has played at a higher level than most of them, and highly experienced at this level. If he’s fit, he’ll play.
Seems pretty obvious this fella is Dunne’s back up. That’s a good thing. We needed one. Right that he’s one that should develop, given Dunne is a starter and experienced.
Let’s hope he’s better than Santos and Ashby.
Now, onto left back… |  | | |
| Kealey Adamson - Welcome on 14:03 - Jun 27 with 1306 views | Hunterhoop |
| Kealey Adamson - Welcome on 12:36 - Jun 27 by Northernr |
I think they're keen to give Larkeche a go. Certainly keener than I am anyway. |
Hmmm…that’s a big gamble… | | | |
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| Kealey Adamson - Welcome on 14:08 - Jun 27 with 1268 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| Kealey Adamson - Welcome on 13:22 - Jun 27 by dm97 |
Get what you mean in terms of profile. But just because one cheap punt like that went wrong doesn’t mean this one will. Key word here is ‘cheap’, as with Santos if it goes wrong I feel quite meh about it.
The more interesting thing for me is that Dunne is clearly being considered as the first choice RB from the off, which again leaves the question about style / model / any other GenAi term you want to choose. King Julien (he likes to move it) presumably came in on the game model theory and we know Jimmy is very good at lots of things but build up - not so much.
Just like last year, will Stéphan/Marti adapt to model etc etc |
Keep saying, expect Dunne to be switched to CB. We have basically bought 2 right backs. | |
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| Kealey Adamson - Welcome on 14:09 - Jun 27 with 1251 views | QPunkR |
| Kealey Adamson - Welcome on 13:15 - Jun 27 by Northernr |
TBH, yeh, but then we had Kieffer Moore and Darren Ambrose written up as well and... |
Kieffer Moore could provide the backup to Michi  |  |
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| Kealey Adamson - Welcome on 14:10 - Jun 27 with 1250 views | Northernr |
| Kealey Adamson - Welcome on 13:55 - Jun 27 by W12Mikey |
If your model is to develop young players, you can’t send them out on loan, see them do well as Larkeche seems to have done (albeit acknowledging that the standard in most of the SPL is probably below mid-table Champ) then when they come back bomb them out before pre-season is done.
Obviously I would apply the same logic to Kelman. |
Who said bomb him out? I agree with you. I quite like him as a bench option. I think it would be quite a risk to go into a season with him and Esquerdinha as your two left backs though. Interested to see who they pick up out there. | | | |
| Kealey Adamson - Welcome on 14:14 - Jun 27 with 1219 views | francisbowles |
| Kealey Adamson - Welcome on 13:53 - Jun 27 by Northernr |
Age, style of play, position, coming from a league that isn't physical or intense... |
Turned 22 in March. Not too old, surely? | | | |
| Kealey Adamson - Welcome on 14:15 - Jun 27 with 1205 views | dmm |
| Kealey Adamson - Welcome on 14:08 - Jun 27 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
Keep saying, expect Dunne to be switched to CB. We have basically bought 2 right backs. |
Mbengue has mainly played at CB in his career. There's no reason to think his primary role with us would be at RB. |  | | |
| Kealey Adamson - Welcome on 14:19 - Jun 27 with 1184 views | CLAREMAN1995 |
| Kealey Adamson - Welcome on 14:02 - Jun 27 by Hunterhoop |
We’re loaded at Centre Half though. Cook, JCS, Morrison, and now Mbengue. The latter two are back ups for the former two if fit. Nourry might not want to have retained Cook, and it’s a fair question if he’s worth the big salary this year, but I bet Stephan will want him to play. He is still very good, has played at a higher level than most of them, and highly experienced at this level. If he’s fit, he’ll play.
Seems pretty obvious this fella is Dunne’s back up. That’s a good thing. We needed one. Right that he’s one that should develop, given Dunne is a starter and experienced.
Let’s hope he’s better than Santos and Ashby.
Now, onto left back… |
Any chance they will try and move JCS out once he is 100% he has shown to be an excellent defender but shocking fragile and that really hurt us last year .
Some one on Hopes and Dreams mentioned they suspected Stephan was around our building for a couple of weeks and might have been in on the Cook and Dunne discussions resulting in extensions .
New country,new league he will want all his experienced pros around to get his early results positive then work in the kids later when things have settled down |  | | |
| Kealey Adamson - Welcome on 14:20 - Jun 27 with 1188 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| Kealey Adamson - Welcome on 14:02 - Jun 27 by Hunterhoop |
We’re loaded at Centre Half though. Cook, JCS, Morrison, and now Mbengue. The latter two are back ups for the former two if fit. Nourry might not want to have retained Cook, and it’s a fair question if he’s worth the big salary this year, but I bet Stephan will want him to play. He is still very good, has played at a higher level than most of them, and highly experienced at this level. If he’s fit, he’ll play.
Seems pretty obvious this fella is Dunne’s back up. That’s a good thing. We needed one. Right that he’s one that should develop, given Dunne is a starter and experienced.
Let’s hope he’s better than Santos and Ashby.
Now, onto left back… |
Forget Cook, he is going to struggle with that injury. Probably why Nourry sounded so hacked off when announcing the extension. He isn't going to play much.
JCS, really?
It's pretty clear they are adding pace and power to the wide areas, something we've lacked for ages.
Imagine QPR back in the early 90s. Impey, Sinton, Wilson and Bardsley. Now it'll probably be Poku, Dembele, Larkeche/Brazillian and Mbengue/Adamson.
We are going to have fast overlapping full backs who can deliver balls into the box supported by fast wingers. Push the opposition back, especially at home.
Now this sort of football I can watch. | |
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| Kealey Adamson - Welcome on 14:37 - Jun 27 with 1099 views | Hunterhoop |
| Kealey Adamson - Welcome on 14:20 - Jun 27 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
Forget Cook, he is going to struggle with that injury. Probably why Nourry sounded so hacked off when announcing the extension. He isn't going to play much.
JCS, really?
It's pretty clear they are adding pace and power to the wide areas, something we've lacked for ages.
Imagine QPR back in the early 90s. Impey, Sinton, Wilson and Bardsley. Now it'll probably be Poku, Dembele, Larkeche/Brazillian and Mbengue/Adamson.
We are going to have fast overlapping full backs who can deliver balls into the box supported by fast wingers. Push the opposition back, especially at home.
Now this sort of football I can watch. |
You seem very confident about that for someone claims not to be hearing anything from inside the club, and given what is in the public domain.
Cook is on the grass in that pre-season video. He might struggle with a reoccurrence of the injury. But he’s clearly fit enough to train currently, and the injury is one that comes from overuse.
With Mbengue, he’s played most of his career at centre half and the club, in the report of the signing call him a centre half.
When we extended Dunne, i think (if I recall correctly) Nourry praised his performance and conversion to right back. It’s the position he won players’ player of the year, and fans’
player of the year. And it’s the position he attracted interest from other clubs playing in.
Dunne has also struggled at centre half when played there. His partnership with Dickie was a disaster. He looked okay under Warburton in the middle of a 3, but he’s always struggled in a 2.
You might be right, but if so it’s a speculative guess/wishful thinking, or someone is feeding you stuff. There is nothing in the public domain that indicates Dunne is moving to centre half or should do so, and that this Adamson fella or Mbengue will be our starting right back. | | | |
| Kealey Adamson - Welcome on 14:56 - Jun 27 with 995 views | RBlock |
| Kealey Adamson - Welcome on 14:10 - Jun 27 by Northernr |
Who said bomb him out? I agree with you. I quite like him as a bench option. I think it would be quite a risk to go into a season with him and Esquerdinha as your two left backs though. Interested to see who they pick up out there. |
And FWIW, Harvey Vale isn't a LB as long as I've got a hole in my arse. Twitter can pack that talk in already |  | | |
| Kealey Adamson - Welcome on 15:01 - Jun 27 with 962 views | sdm1508 |
With the players being signed and the new manager liking 2 up top. I could see us playing 3412.
Mbengue, Dunne, JCS
New Aussie, Varanne, Field, one other (maybe Esquerdinha)
Chair
Frey and Kelman
If Poku arrives then ignore all that lol
Read earlier somewhere that Fox and Colback will be gone. Despite that, we should have plenty of players to pick from in the match day squad. That team doesn't even include Cook. Not sure where he is at with his recovery and if that issue can come back at any time. I also think that maybe the club wouldn't have signed him up again if they weren't obliged to due to the stipulations in his contract, which I think a few have mentioned on here | | | |
| Kealey Adamson - Welcome on 15:04 - Jun 27 with 950 views | W12Mikey |
| Kealey Adamson - Welcome on 14:10 - Jun 27 by Northernr |
Who said bomb him out? I agree with you. I quite like him as a bench option. I think it would be quite a risk to go into a season with him and Esquerdinha as your two left backs though. Interested to see who they pick up out there. |
I didn’t mean to imply you (or anyone) had said bomb him out, just that they really have to give him a chance to show if he’s good enough at least to compete for the starting position. Whatever strategy the club have for the left back position they presumably think it was better than sticking with Paal. They either think Larkeche/ Esquardinha (and Vale?) is enough cover or they plan to recruit someone clearly better. If it is the latter I hope they are managing the others’ expectations well.
Last season they had to muddle through a bit when Paal was unavailable, hence Ashby and Saito playing that position, and maybe we are in for that again if the right player isn’t available/affordable. | | | |
| Kealey Adamson - Welcome on 15:08 - Jun 27 with 928 views | highleverhoopL |
| Kealey Adamson - Welcome on 13:11 - Jun 27 by JamieNaz |
How do work permits work for Australians?
Assuming their division isn't ranked all the highly?
But, also, assume we aren't using up one of our exemptions on a backup right back? |
It only takes one British grandparent to work here and that covers alot of them. Plus could they possibly use the young persons mobility scheme? https://www.gov.uk/youth-mobility [Post edited 27 Jun 15:15]
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| Kealey Adamson - Welcome on 15:38 - Jun 27 with 826 views | PlanetHonneywood |
| Kealey Adamson - Welcome on 14:20 - Jun 27 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
Forget Cook, he is going to struggle with that injury. Probably why Nourry sounded so hacked off when announcing the extension. He isn't going to play much.
JCS, really?
It's pretty clear they are adding pace and power to the wide areas, something we've lacked for ages.
Imagine QPR back in the early 90s. Impey, Sinton, Wilson and Bardsley. Now it'll probably be Poku, Dembele, Larkeche/Brazillian and Mbengue/Adamson.
We are going to have fast overlapping full backs who can deliver balls into the box supported by fast wingers. Push the opposition back, especially at home.
Now this sort of football I can watch. |
Thing about Cook, he has a lot of nouse about him and I suspect he's a big presence in the dressing room. Which given our squad does not look overly blessed with experience, might still be a positive.
As for JCS, Williams' return might improve appearance rates. But am I wrong here: Has JCS played LB before? Not sure and equally, not sure it would be wise what with all that turning and hurrying required. |  |
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| Kealey Adamson - Welcome on 15:39 - Jun 27 with 824 views | swisscottage |
Am I the only one that thinks we might go to a back three with pacy wingbacks and Dunne moving into the three. | | | |
| Kealey Adamson - Welcome on 15:47 - Jun 27 with 810 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| Kealey Adamson - Welcome on 15:39 - Jun 27 by swisscottage |
Am I the only one that thinks we might go to a back three with pacy wingbacks and Dunne moving into the three. |
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| Kealey Adamson - Welcome on 15:58 - Jun 27 with 770 views | Hunterhoop |
How does that follow Nourry’s game model he’s been so desperate to implement and adamant needs to be in place throughout the club? No side at the club played a back 3 last season.
Again, not saying it can’t or shouldn’t happen as it would get us to two up top.
But, what is the point in having loads of wide forwards (Smyth, Dembele, Chair, Poku, Kolli) if we’re not going to play with any and just have an 8/10 and 2 forwards.
If we switched to a 3412 (basically 352 in old money), it doesn’t align with any of the squad building Nourry did last season, indeed renders some of it useless.
And if we change the “game model” after one year, what is the point in having one?! | | | |
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