| How optimistic are you now? 19:33 - Jun 28 with 19095 views | Spen |
I know it’s very early days in this transfer window and I was going to post this a few days back, but, I think I’m feeling more confident and optimistic now than this time last year.
Last summer the narrative was what could Marti and this team do with a full preseason etc, and the general feeling around the place was positive.
Things seem to be making sense now and with the new management team in place, decent, forward thinking signings, retained players etc, there does seem something brewing here.
I guess it’s the well worn phrase ‘it’s the hope that kills you’ kicking in, especially after 2 San Miguel, but for the first time in a long time I’m really looking forward to this season. |  | | |  |
| How optimistic are you now? on 10:52 - Jul 1 with 1906 views | TheChef |
| How optimistic are you now? on 10:37 - Jul 1 by londonscottish |
I like the way you talk about Nourry
"The way he carries himself is poor. The way he communicates is poor. His stakeholder management is poor. His honesty and integrity is very questionable.
If he just spoke to us like grown ups none of us would be so suspicious of him. But he won't. Why? I have no idea. But he's creating a bad feeling that's totally unnecessary. |
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| How optimistic are you now? on 12:29 - Jul 1 with 1787 views | dmm |
'The problem isn't a manager, it's a striker'. We asked you what you thought of QPR's switch from Marti Cifuentes to Julien Stephan in the manager's seat. Here's what you had to say... https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cdr33me2lxxo
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| How optimistic are you now? on 13:28 - Jul 1 with 1696 views | DieByYourSide |
Only 500 new season tickets being made available despite big swathes of availability in usual areas. After that...a waiting list! Scarcity as a marketing ploy then. | |
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| How optimistic are you now? on 13:50 - Jul 1 with 1662 views | robith |
After the last few seasons, I feel it's very hard to be very optimistic about us at all. I mean in Jan the championship sub reddit was talking about us being play off dark horses and it turned into yet another relegation battle.
I choose to be pessimistic and be pleased if proven wrong |  | | |
| How optimistic are you now? on 13:52 - Jul 1 with 1653 views | Hunterhoop |
| How optimistic are you now? on 13:28 - Jul 1 by DieByYourSide |
Only 500 new season tickets being made available despite big swathes of availability in usual areas. After that...a waiting list! Scarcity as a marketing ploy then. |
And match day tickets have a much bigger margin. I wonder if they are trying to limit STs to maximise the higher price match day ticket revenue? |  | | |
| How optimistic are you now? on 14:01 - Jul 1 with 1641 views | Northernr |
| How optimistic are you now? on 12:29 - Jul 1 by dmm |
'The problem isn't a manager, it's a striker'. We asked you what you thought of QPR's switch from Marti Cifuentes to Julien Stephan in the manager's seat. Here's what you had to say... https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cdr33me2lxxo
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Crikey, makes this message board sound like a beacon of light and hope!
Has there ever been such a wide split in opinion and mood across the support base as there is this summer? You've got people saying we're the best run club in the Championship, promotion dark horse, Nourry smashing it. You've got a guy of 50 years support on the BBC saying the passion's gone and he expects relegation which will at least get rid of the people running the club. And basically everything in between.
A very interesting season ahead.
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| How optimistic are you now? on 14:19 - Jul 1 with 1604 views | DieByYourSide |
| How optimistic are you now? on 13:52 - Jul 1 by Hunterhoop |
And match day tickets have a much bigger margin. I wonder if they are trying to limit STs to maximise the higher price match day ticket revenue? |
That too but being able to say "season tickets sold out" from a PR POV even more important probably. | |
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| How optimistic are you now? on 14:34 - Jul 1 with 1581 views | dmm |
| How optimistic are you now? on 14:01 - Jul 1 by Northernr |
Crikey, makes this message board sound like a beacon of light and hope!
Has there ever been such a wide split in opinion and mood across the support base as there is this summer? You've got people saying we're the best run club in the Championship, promotion dark horse, Nourry smashing it. You've got a guy of 50 years support on the BBC saying the passion's gone and he expects relegation which will at least get rid of the people running the club. And basically everything in between.
A very interesting season ahead.
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Yes indeed. What I don't understand is the increase in the number of supporters, particularly young supporters. We're not exactly a fashionable club, or likely to go up, or break into the top 6, or go on a cup run. We have an uncomfortable, rickety old stadium and don't have any sexy players. But new fans are coming. It's some of the old buggers that seem to be giving up. | | | |
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| How optimistic are you now? on 14:38 - Jul 1 with 1574 views | Northernr |
| How optimistic are you now? on 14:34 - Jul 1 by dmm |
Yes indeed. What I don't understand is the increase in the number of supporters, particularly young supporters. We're not exactly a fashionable club, or likely to go up, or break into the top 6, or go on a cup run. We have an uncomfortable, rickety old stadium and don't have any sexy players. But new fans are coming. It's some of the old buggers that seem to be giving up. |
Load of factors but we're surrounded by Premier League clubs in mostly new stadiums with unaffordable tickets and an increasingly unwatchable product. We've put terracing back into an old school stadium, we're affordable and the Championship is competitive. If you want a ticket here, or to follow us away, you'll get one and it'll be relatively affordable. | | | |
| How optimistic are you now? on 14:40 - Jul 1 with 1563 views | dmm |
| How optimistic are you now? on 14:38 - Jul 1 by Northernr |
Load of factors but we're surrounded by Premier League clubs in mostly new stadiums with unaffordable tickets and an increasingly unwatchable product. We've put terracing back into an old school stadium, we're affordable and the Championship is competitive. If you want a ticket here, or to follow us away, you'll get one and it'll be relatively affordable. |
Very good, Clive. I get that. | | | |
| How optimistic are you now? on 15:32 - Jul 1 with 1486 views | londonscottish |
| How optimistic are you now? on 14:34 - Jul 1 by dmm |
Yes indeed. What I don't understand is the increase in the number of supporters, particularly young supporters. We're not exactly a fashionable club, or likely to go up, or break into the top 6, or go on a cup run. We have an uncomfortable, rickety old stadium and don't have any sexy players. But new fans are coming. It's some of the old buggers that seem to be giving up. |
When I can drag myself away from pissed off with Nourry for not communicating (and the board for letting him behave like that) I have to give him or someone on his team credit for successfully and regularly filling a lot more seats at LR than has been the case for years. Plus the massive increase in away support at so many games.
Unless it has absolutely nothing to do with them. I guess we'll never know as loose talks costs lives. Or something. |  |
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| How optimistic are you now? on 16:07 - Jul 1 with 1449 views | kensalriser |
Championship attendances are up across the board so it may have little relation to the club's efforts. |  |
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| How optimistic are you now? on 16:13 - Jul 1 with 1441 views | BAWHoops |
| How optimistic are you now? on 14:38 - Jul 1 by Northernr |
Load of factors but we're surrounded by Premier League clubs in mostly new stadiums with unaffordable tickets and an increasingly unwatchable product. We've put terracing back into an old school stadium, we're affordable and the Championship is competitive. If you want a ticket here, or to follow us away, you'll get one and it'll be relatively affordable. |
Also, supporting a team like ours is fun and quirky. I had a group of mates at school that were all Arsenal/Spurs/Liverpool and they ended up following Barnet home and away because they just felt more involved and part of it.
Football gets you when you're young and if you end up becoming a football nerd (like so many of us) then watching Arsenal occasionally on Sky Sports just isn't enough. |  |
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| How optimistic are you now? on 17:15 - Jul 1 with 1365 views | queensparker |
| How optimistic are you now? on 14:34 - Jul 1 by dmm |
Yes indeed. What I don't understand is the increase in the number of supporters, particularly young supporters. We're not exactly a fashionable club, or likely to go up, or break into the top 6, or go on a cup run. We have an uncomfortable, rickety old stadium and don't have any sexy players. But new fans are coming. It's some of the old buggers that seem to be giving up. |
I live locally and have young kids, and have been inviting their mates down whenever I can to home games here and there.
100% of the time the kids and their parents say something like "that was way more fun than the Arsenal/Spurs/Chelsea game we went to, and I didn't have to spend the thick end of 200 quid either. Can we come again?"
And that's been at some properly sh*t games as well. If we start doing well-ish I think we'll see an even bigger uptake of young kids. It's good to see.
Same with the away fans, a few years ago the atmosphere in the away end was pretty poisonous but the last two years it's been brilliant [Post edited 1 Jul 17:17]
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| How optimistic are you now? on 17:22 - Jul 1 with 1353 views | dmm |
| How optimistic are you now? on 17:15 - Jul 1 by queensparker |
I live locally and have young kids, and have been inviting their mates down whenever I can to home games here and there.
100% of the time the kids and their parents say something like "that was way more fun than the Arsenal/Spurs/Chelsea game we went to, and I didn't have to spend the thick end of 200 quid either. Can we come again?"
And that's been at some properly sh*t games as well. If we start doing well-ish I think we'll see an even bigger uptake of young kids. It's good to see.
Same with the away fans, a few years ago the atmosphere in the away end was pretty poisonous but the last two years it's been brilliant [Post edited 1 Jul 17:17]
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Thanks mate. That's really good to hear. | | | |
| How optimistic are you now? on 17:25 - Jul 1 with 1347 views | Northernr |
Premier League is, increasingly, a dreadful product. | | | |
| How optimistic are you now? on 17:26 - Jul 1 with 1342 views | Rsole |
| How optimistic are you now? on 12:29 - Jul 1 by dmm |
'The problem isn't a manager, it's a striker'. We asked you what you thought of QPR's switch from Marti Cifuentes to Julien Stephan in the manager's seat. Here's what you had to say... https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cdr33me2lxxo
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Rank amateurs - no poll, lacking multiple threads on the same subject, nothing about Kelman or Eze running to 20+ pages, no mention of Spackman, no GIFs or Paddox Photoshopping….not even a Danish Jesus reference.
What type of organisation do they think they are ? Can’t take them seriously for posting this.
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| How optimistic are you now? on 17:35 - Jul 1 with 1310 views | ericgen34 |
| How optimistic are you now? on 17:25 - Jul 1 by Northernr |
Premier League is, increasingly, a dreadful product. |
Exactly. There are more and more people here (in France) turning their interest to the championship. The premier league with the same teams all the time, PSG in ligue 1, it is getting easier and easier for me to talk about the Rs, and have people at least a bit interested and knowledgeable about the league :) [Post edited 1 Jul 17:38]
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| How optimistic are you now? on 17:38 - Jul 1 with 1287 views | FDC |
As Antonio Gramsci said in his Prison Football Diaries, "[T]he challenge for the football supporter with all this bloody nonsense going on is to live without illusions without becoming disillusioned. Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will. URs!" |  | | |
| How optimistic are you now? on 18:02 - Jul 1 with 1254 views | CiderwithRsie |
| How optimistic are you now? on 14:34 - Jul 1 by dmm |
Yes indeed. What I don't understand is the increase in the number of supporters, particularly young supporters. We're not exactly a fashionable club, or likely to go up, or break into the top 6, or go on a cup run. We have an uncomfortable, rickety old stadium and don't have any sexy players. But new fans are coming. It's some of the old buggers that seem to be giving up. |
Apart from the last sentence, that makes me more optimistic than anything else. | | | |
| How optimistic are you now? on 18:07 - Jul 1 with 1246 views | CiderwithRsie |
| How optimistic are you now? on 16:13 - Jul 1 by BAWHoops |
Also, supporting a team like ours is fun and quirky. I had a group of mates at school that were all Arsenal/Spurs/Liverpool and they ended up following Barnet home and away because they just felt more involved and part of it.
Football gets you when you're young and if you end up becoming a football nerd (like so many of us) then watching Arsenal occasionally on Sky Sports just isn't enough. |
I've an old friend who follows Barnet home and away.
When I first met her, Spurs were her team and Barnet were her "second" side - now completely the other way round.
She said the difference was summed up by the fact that she's had loads of face-to-face conversations with Barnet players but the only interaction she ever had with a Spurs player was when her boss got her into the directors' box and Gazza (accidentally) shoulder barged her down the stairs on his way out. | | | |
| How optimistic are you now? on 18:11 - Jul 1 with 1234 views | Northernr |
| How optimistic are you now? on 18:07 - Jul 1 by CiderwithRsie |
I've an old friend who follows Barnet home and away.
When I first met her, Spurs were her team and Barnet were her "second" side - now completely the other way round.
She said the difference was summed up by the fact that she's had loads of face-to-face conversations with Barnet players but the only interaction she ever had with a Spurs player was when her boss got her into the directors' box and Gazza (accidentally) shoulder barged her down the stairs on his way out. |
That was one of Lee Hoos’ big things as well with the family zone and players attending. Kids going back to school and telling the Arsenal and Tottenham plastics “yeh well I actually went to see my team, AND I met the players”. Great initiative. | | | |
| How optimistic are you now? on 18:50 - Jul 1 with 1137 views | derbyhoop |
| How optimistic are you now? on 13:52 - Jul 1 by Hunterhoop |
And match day tickets have a much bigger margin. I wonder if they are trying to limit STs to maximise the higher price match day ticket revenue? |
Marginal difference to bottom line. |  |
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| How optimistic are you now? on 18:52 - Jul 1 with 1137 views | daveB |
| How optimistic are you now? on 18:11 - Jul 1 by Northernr |
That was one of Lee Hoos’ big things as well with the family zone and players attending. Kids going back to school and telling the Arsenal and Tottenham plastics “yeh well I actually went to see my team, AND I met the players”. Great initiative. |
so many factors but the Family Stand grabbed a lot of kids young and dragged them in, Hoos deserves credit for that and the fanzone they do
That worked with my son, he hates watching football on TV even England he gets very bored but coming to QPR he got to meet players, do tours of the stadium, parties where players got invovled, he played some game where he had to build a snowman with Shodipo and Caulker, all added up to him feeling wanted. Used to reguilarly have a chat with Eze before games who was wonderful with him, then got to the age where none of that mattered and he just wanted to shout at a referee. He is always saying to school mates they are not real fans and he's been mapping out plans for all the away days this season.
As you say the added safe standing now, affordable prices etc has really helped grab the 15-24 year olds [Post edited 1 Jul 18:52]
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| How optimistic are you now? on 19:29 - Jul 1 with 1080 views | Northernr |
| How optimistic are you now? on 18:52 - Jul 1 by daveB |
so many factors but the Family Stand grabbed a lot of kids young and dragged them in, Hoos deserves credit for that and the fanzone they do
That worked with my son, he hates watching football on TV even England he gets very bored but coming to QPR he got to meet players, do tours of the stadium, parties where players got invovled, he played some game where he had to build a snowman with Shodipo and Caulker, all added up to him feeling wanted. Used to reguilarly have a chat with Eze before games who was wonderful with him, then got to the age where none of that mattered and he just wanted to shout at a referee. He is always saying to school mates they are not real fans and he's been mapping out plans for all the away days this season.
As you say the added safe standing now, affordable prices etc has really helped grab the 15-24 year olds [Post edited 1 Jul 18:52]
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Brilliant to hear mate. I often see you and your lad on the ridiculous aways to Swansea and whatever and it brings me a lot of joy. | | | |
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