| The Gwent levels 20:38 - Jul 2 with 2717 views | SullutaCreturned |
The Senedd wouldn't put a road across it for ecological reasons but it sems they aren't averse to all developments on that land,
walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/this-irretrievably-damage-nationally-important-31974084?int_source=nba
I understand the need for more renewable energy but we can't keep damaging habitats to get that sustainable electricity..
Who remembers Drakefirds stance at the time?
Mr Drakeford's move to scrap the six-lane scheme follows a public inquiry overseen by planning inspector Bill Wadrup, who said the case for the road had been "compelling".
Ministers had decided that, with austerity and Brexit in the background, the uncertainty of the financial position of the Welsh Government meant the project was too expensive.
But Mark Drakeford said he would not have gone ahead even if it was affordable because of the impact on the Gwent Levels.
Mr Cairns said: "It appears that the first minister thinks he knows better than the independent inquiry."
These solar farm schemes could cover even more land than the motorway if they are all approved and once one is approved it sets a precedent. So what of the impact on the levels now Mark Drakeford? |  | | |  |
| The Gwent levels on 22:09 - Jul 2 with 1496 views | max936 |
The bloke is utterly clueless and thinks he's a god in that eyesore that is the Senedd. |  |
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| The Gwent levels on 22:14 - Jul 2 with 1493 views | Dr_Winston |
Lots of people thought that he was the bees knees during Covid.
Me? I thought he was a Grandstanding tosser happy to let Wales stagnate as long as he could pretend that he was getting one up on Westminster. A perfect example of how the leadership in the Senedd has failed us over the last 25 years. |  |
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| The Gwent levels on 22:49 - Jul 2 with 1470 views | Boundy |
| The Gwent levels on 22:14 - Jul 2 by Dr_Winston |
Lots of people thought that he was the bees knees during Covid.
Me? I thought he was a Grandstanding tosser happy to let Wales stagnate as long as he could pretend that he was getting one up on Westminster. A perfect example of how the leadership in the Senedd has failed us over the last 25 years. |
Drakeford is a loathsome creature, he used Covid as a hammer to hit back at London specifically Johnson, he's the epitome of someone who used his absolute power ,(power which should never have been given to him ,like too many others in Welsh politics ) which cost lives, closed businesses and lost jobs. His legacy is nothing as befits his memory. | |
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| The Gwent levels on 22:56 - Jul 2 with 1466 views | Dr_Winston |
| The Gwent levels on 22:49 - Jul 2 by Boundy |
Drakeford is a loathsome creature, he used Covid as a hammer to hit back at London specifically Johnson, he's the epitome of someone who used his absolute power ,(power which should never have been given to him ,like too many others in Welsh politics ) which cost lives, closed businesses and lost jobs. His legacy is nothing as befits his memory. |
Sadly there are still too many people out there who think that the cretin is someone to be admired. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| The Gwent levels on 23:27 - Jul 2 with 1452 views | max936 |
Could this have been in the planning stages when Dreadful pulled the plug on the relief road, this is right up his street so it may have legs. [Post edited 3 Jul 18:54]
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| The Gwent levels on 10:00 - Jul 3 with 1360 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| The Gwent levels on 22:49 - Jul 2 by Boundy |
Drakeford is a loathsome creature, he used Covid as a hammer to hit back at London specifically Johnson, he's the epitome of someone who used his absolute power ,(power which should never have been given to him ,like too many others in Welsh politics ) which cost lives, closed businesses and lost jobs. His legacy is nothing as befits his memory. |
Johnson transferred infected elderly people in hospital s to care homes to create space. It was a disaster. Johnson gets a free pass on here while Drakeford who wanted to be careful gets pelters. |  |
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| The Gwent levels on 10:02 - Jul 3 with 1363 views | raynor94 |
| The Gwent levels on 10:00 - Jul 3 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Johnson transferred infected elderly people in hospital s to care homes to create space. It was a disaster. Johnson gets a free pass on here while Drakeford who wanted to be careful gets pelters. |
And deservedly so, he was drunk on power did nothing good for Wales at all |  |
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| The Gwent levels on 10:03 - Jul 3 with 1356 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
HS 2 shows how bad UK is at project management of infrastructure projects. It might have turned out like that and been a massive drain on funds.
I am not sure how solar farms affect the newts birds and I sects but probably less that a big road. | |
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| The Gwent levels on 10:18 - Jul 3 with 1351 views | union_jack |
| The Gwent levels on 22:56 - Jul 2 by Dr_Winston |
Sadly there are still too many people out there who think that the cretin is someone to be admired. |
All these criticisms of Drakeford The Great is bringing a tear to Resloven’s eyes, for the love of God and all that is good in humanity, just stop!
😂😂😂😂😂 |  |
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| The Gwent levels on 15:14 - Jul 3 with 1279 views | SullutaCreturned |
| The Gwent levels on 10:03 - Jul 3 by ReslovenSwan1 |
HS 2 shows how bad UK is at project management of infrastructure projects. It might have turned out like that and been a massive drain on funds.
I am not sure how solar farms affect the newts birds and I sects but probably less that a big road. |
Well they're going to have to put thoisands of concrete bases in for the panels to go on. Then they're going to have to put miles and miles of cabling in which will be underground so it will all be dug up.. These solar farms (if approved) will cover vastly more area than the relief road would have which means a lot more area being dug up.
Not to forget of course that all this equipment will be conveyed by big lorries that will trundle all across the levels too. Oh and thousands of man hours trudging around on the levels too, they'kll probably be a boggy mess after all that.
So posiibly, it could be more damaging than the road. | | | |
| The Gwent levels on 16:17 - Jul 3 with 1246 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
I do not think they have bid g concrete bases as they are light. It will need a a small an access road and a one off underground cables.
The loss of sunlight will clearly have an effect . Presumably the newt frogs and lizards will survive and sun is not their friend ( presumably) | |
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| The Gwent levels on 16:46 - Jul 3 with 1238 views | raynor94 |
| The Gwent levels on 16:17 - Jul 3 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I do not think they have bid g concrete bases as they are light. It will need a a small an access road and a one off underground cables.
The loss of sunlight will clearly have an effect . Presumably the newt frogs and lizards will survive and sun is not their friend ( presumably) |
So in other words you haven't got a clue! | |
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| The Gwent levels on 16:51 - Jul 3 with 1238 views | Vincent_Vega |
| The Gwent levels on 16:17 - Jul 3 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I do not think they have bid g concrete bases as they are light. It will need a a small an access road and a one off underground cables.
The loss of sunlight will clearly have an effect . Presumably the newt frogs and lizards will survive and sun is not their friend ( presumably) |
'I do not think they have bid g concrete bases as they are light'
If they followed that then the first named storm in October and one or more of those panels are in some poor old ladies kitchen.
Also Solar panels are very desirable to thieves so not only is it one cable its an entire security system with guards, CCTV, high fences etc. for the life of the farm.
I know this as there's a decent size solar farm being finished off not far from me and it looks horrible.
This is a massive own goal for Cardiff bay if they allow this. |  |
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| The Gwent levels on 18:41 - Jul 3 with 1196 views | SullutaCreturned |
| The Gwent levels on 16:17 - Jul 3 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I do not think they have bid g concrete bases as they are light. It will need a a small an access road and a one off underground cables.
The loss of sunlight will clearly have an effect . Presumably the newt frogs and lizards will survive and sun is not their friend ( presumably) |
Or, you could be entirely wrong....I suppose they could be balancing the metal frames on top of the earth with nothing to hold them in place...
vitalenergi.co.uk/solar-farms/
A small access road, then how do they get the JCB's there? | | | |
| The Gwent levels on 19:00 - Jul 3 with 1177 views | max936 |
| The Gwent levels on 16:46 - Jul 3 by raynor94 |
So in other words you haven't got a clue! |
Nail hit firmly on the head, what's that Tom Jones song called  | |
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| The Gwent levels on 21:37 - Jul 3 with 1113 views | Boundy |
| The Gwent levels on 22:56 - Jul 2 by Dr_Winston |
Sadly there are still too many people out there who think that the cretin is someone to be admired. |
Res being one of them , good judge of character ,not. | |
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| The Gwent levels on 14:18 - Jul 4 with 1027 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| The Gwent levels on 16:46 - Jul 3 by raynor94 |
So in other words you haven't got a clue! |
I was involved in the assessment of the world's biggest wind farm in Isle of Lewis. Aat the time 25 years back.. Solar panels are light and do not need big concrete bases.
Some solar farms have sheep grazing between them. They will have to be secured in to the ground to avoid wind effects. | |
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| The Gwent levels on 14:22 - Jul 4 with 1017 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| The Gwent levels on 22:49 - Jul 2 by Boundy |
Drakeford is a loathsome creature, he used Covid as a hammer to hit back at London specifically Johnson, he's the epitome of someone who used his absolute power ,(power which should never have been given to him ,like too many others in Welsh politics ) which cost lives, closed businesses and lost jobs. His legacy is nothing as befits his memory. |
Johnson was a total disaster on COVID moving infected old people in hospitals to uninfected care home to create space. He was careless costing lives.
Drakeford could be accused of being too cautious and it certainly bought time until the vaccine was developed. Like Sturgeon I he is fair game for the Unionist flag waver who wants all decisions taken in London. | |
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| The Gwent levels on 14:24 - Jul 4 with 1012 views | Whiterockin |
| The Gwent levels on 14:18 - Jul 4 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I was involved in the assessment of the world's biggest wind farm in Isle of Lewis. Aat the time 25 years back.. Solar panels are light and do not need big concrete bases.
Some solar farms have sheep grazing between them. They will have to be secured in to the ground to avoid wind effects. |
Here is an article highlighting the environmental concerns in detail
https://solareis.anl.gov/guide/environment/ |  | | |
| The Gwent levels on 16:35 - Jul 4 with 954 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| The Gwent levels on 21:37 - Jul 3 by Boundy |
Res being one of them , good judge of character ,not. |
Parliamentary people are disliked everywhere w rightly or wrongly Starmer is not popular neither was Sunak. Johnson was a complete idiot in many people eyes.
The English establishment wants the Senedd as it save them being the target of criticism in Wales. Redwood was loathed and probably never wanted to be here.
Devolved Government leaders are given special treatment and silly nicknames for some reason while English ones are not. | |
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| The Gwent levels on 16:41 - Jul 4 with 939 views | raynor94 |
| The Gwent levels on 14:18 - Jul 4 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I was involved in the assessment of the world's biggest wind farm in Isle of Lewis. Aat the time 25 years back.. Solar panels are light and do not need big concrete bases.
Some solar farms have sheep grazing between them. They will have to be secured in to the ground to avoid wind effects. |
You said in your earlier post you didn't think they needed concrete bases make your mind up | |
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| The Gwent levels on 16:44 - Jul 4 with 939 views | Whiterockin |
| The Gwent levels on 16:35 - Jul 4 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Parliamentary people are disliked everywhere w rightly or wrongly Starmer is not popular neither was Sunak. Johnson was a complete idiot in many people eyes.
The English establishment wants the Senedd as it save them being the target of criticism in Wales. Redwood was loathed and probably never wanted to be here.
Devolved Government leaders are given special treatment and silly nicknames for some reason while English ones are not. |
You have not heard of Two tier Kier, Dishy Rishi, Lettuce Liz or Bojo. There are many more less flattering. | | | |
| The Gwent levels on 16:59 - Jul 4 with 912 views | Boundy |
| The Gwent levels on 14:18 - Jul 4 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I was involved in the assessment of the world's biggest wind farm in Isle of Lewis. Aat the time 25 years back.. Solar panels are light and do not need big concrete bases.
Some solar farms have sheep grazing between them. They will have to be secured in to the ground to avoid wind effects. |
and I was a site manager for a number of wind farms for ten years until recently. Commercial solar panels need two people to move them into their securing brackets , the way that solar panels are secured to teh ground are by piling the frame work into the ground ,the Gwent levels by their nature contains water now whether piling without concrete can do the do the job will be determined by the environmental assessment ,you're right about securing them ,otherwise Newport could be bombarded with unfettered solar panels . | |
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| The Gwent levels on 17:37 - Jul 4 with 898 views | SullutaCreturned |
| The Gwent levels on 14:18 - Jul 4 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I was involved in the assessment of the world's biggest wind farm in Isle of Lewis. Aat the time 25 years back.. Solar panels are light and do not need big concrete bases.
Some solar farms have sheep grazing between them. They will have to be secured in to the ground to avoid wind effects. |
I call BS on that then,
groundscrewcentre.co.uk/foundations-for-solar-installations-a-comprehensive-guide#:~:text=Solar%20panels%20need%20a%20rock,lasting%20performance%20with%20minimal%20disruption.
Read it carefully, concrete has been th go to solution. As it goes technology is moving on and it won't be the go to for long.
BTW, I didn't say "big concrete bases" I said thousands because the ones I have seen have had small concrete bases at each support strut.
The solar farm at Felindre has had sheep in amongst it, concrete supports and all. | | | |
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