| Welsh Labour on 13:03 - Jul 20 with 1414 views | majorraglan |
In this case it’s because he’s a local candidate, he cares, he’s been very visible in the community , identified issues during his campaign which he addressed and run a good campaign. |  | |  |
| Welsh Labour on 13:12 - Jul 20 with 1408 views | max936 |
Be interesting to see what happens come next May, I've no idea on what the outcome will be, but let's hope Labour get shown the door and lets hope Reform don't get anywhere near the Senedd either.
It's probably Plaids best ever chance, not sure they are up to it though. |  |
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| Welsh Labour on 13:38 - Jul 20 with 1387 views | Whiterockin |
Quote from the article in the original post. Ignore or deny as much as you like but it is happening.
"In June, pollster YouGov has asked people across the UK how they would vote in a general election, and in Wales it shows Reform would take 21 of the 32 seats in Wales." |  | | |
| Welsh Labour on 13:55 - Jul 20 with 1364 views | raynor94 |
| Welsh Labour on 13:12 - Jul 20 by max936 |
Be interesting to see what happens come next May, I've no idea on what the outcome will be, but let's hope Labour get shown the door and lets hope Reform don't get anywhere near the Senedd either.
It's probably Plaids best ever chance, not sure they are up to it though. |
I certainly won't vote Labour again, but Reform and Plaid is a choice between a rock and a hard place |  |
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| Welsh Labour on 14:44 - Jul 20 with 1316 views | AguycalledJack |
Vote plaid and you'll get the same ideology as labour. Been labour's crutch in the sennedd. There will be absolutely no difference. | | | |
| Welsh Labour on 14:46 - Jul 20 with 1301 views | Whiterockin |
| Welsh Labour on 14:44 - Jul 20 by AguycalledJack |
Vote plaid and you'll get the same ideology as labour. Been labour's crutch in the sennedd. There will be absolutely no difference. |
This is exactly the opinion of many in Wales and what is holding me back at the moment. | | | |
| Welsh Labour on 15:03 - Jul 20 with 1287 views | Dr_Winston |
| Welsh Labour on 14:44 - Jul 20 by AguycalledJack |
Vote plaid and you'll get the same ideology as labour. Been labour's crutch in the sennedd. There will be absolutely no difference. |
Plaid are even madder than Labour TBH. |  |
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| Welsh Labour on 16:35 - Jul 20 with 1210 views | max936 |
| Welsh Labour on 14:44 - Jul 20 by AguycalledJack |
Vote plaid and you'll get the same ideology as labour. Been labour's crutch in the sennedd. There will be absolutely no difference. |
That's my opinion as well. | |
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| Welsh Labour on 17:10 - Jul 20 with 1178 views | Boundy |
if plaid hadn't been so desperate over the past decade to have some grip n power and were happy to collude with Labour despite knowing that labours ideology was keeping Wales as a backwater then right now they'd be in contention for my vote but now no , I'm not coming Reform whether have the nous to improve the lives of the people of Wales but what other choice do we have , undecided. | |
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| Welsh Labour on 18:14 - Jul 20 with 1134 views | union_jack |
| Welsh Labour on 17:10 - Jul 20 by Boundy |
if plaid hadn't been so desperate over the past decade to have some grip n power and were happy to collude with Labour despite knowing that labours ideology was keeping Wales as a backwater then right now they'd be in contention for my vote but now no , I'm not coming Reform whether have the nous to improve the lives of the people of Wales but what other choice do we have , undecided. |
I’m decided on one thing. Not to vote Plaid.
I think Labour returning would be better and that option stinks to high heaven.
It’s Reform for me but only out of it being the best if a bad bunch. |  |
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| Welsh Labour on 20:03 - Jul 20 with 1084 views | max936 |
| Welsh Labour on 18:14 - Jul 20 by union_jack |
I’m decided on one thing. Not to vote Plaid.
I think Labour returning would be better and that option stinks to high heaven.
It’s Reform for me but only out of it being the best if a bad bunch. |
Best of abad bunch, that's not true though nobody knows what to expect from reform, they could the best or the worst, I'm of the opinion that they'll be worse. | |
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| Welsh Labour on 21:44 - Jul 20 with 1038 views | union_jack |
| Welsh Labour on 20:03 - Jul 20 by max936 |
Best of abad bunch, that's not true though nobody knows what to expect from reform, they could the best or the worst, I'm of the opinion that they'll be worse. |
Well yes, it’s an opinion of course. | |
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| Welsh Labour on 22:22 - Jul 20 with 1002 views | max936 |
| Welsh Labour on 21:44 - Jul 20 by union_jack |
Well yes, it’s an opinion of course. |
Well, you're not allowed to have one  | |
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| Welsh Labour on 22:31 - Jul 20 with 973 views | union_jack |
| Welsh Labour on 22:22 - Jul 20 by max936 |
Well, you're not allowed to have one |
Thought that was just at home?😁 | |
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| Welsh Labour on 07:29 - Jul 21 with 851 views | pencoedjack |
| Welsh Labour on 15:03 - Jul 20 by Dr_Winston |
Plaid are even madder than Labour TBH. |
100% if they get on someone turn the lights off in Wales. |  | | |
| Welsh Labour on 15:06 - Jul 21 with 762 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Welsh Labour on 18:14 - Jul 20 by union_jack |
I’m decided on one thing. Not to vote Plaid.
I think Labour returning would be better and that option stinks to high heaven.
It’s Reform for me but only out of it being the best if a bad bunch. |
No leader in Wales, no policies (can't wait for the manifesto) and Farage keeps making promises we know they can't keep/
I don't see how anyone can vote for them, specially anyone who'd never vote tory.
I will admit I agreed with a few things Farage said on Kuennsberg at the weekend. The water company thing is a national disgrace. People can, will and have made excuses but it's been nothing else than politicians looking after mates and giving them a vehicle to make a lot of money. | | | |
| Welsh Labour on 16:00 - Jul 21 with 731 views | AnotherJohn |
Plaid would be even more woke than Labour - infuriatingly detached from reality. I do not see Reform as the long-term future, butt there has got to be an exemplary shock to bring the other parties back to sane policies, and voting Reform is the only way to achieve that shock. The present bunch in power have stitched things up with their Senedd reforms so that Independents are not the answer. | | | |
| Welsh Labour on 08:32 - Jul 22 with 626 views | Scotia |
| Welsh Labour on 16:00 - Jul 21 by AnotherJohn |
Plaid would be even more woke than Labour - infuriatingly detached from reality. I do not see Reform as the long-term future, butt there has got to be an exemplary shock to bring the other parties back to sane policies, and voting Reform is the only way to achieve that shock. The present bunch in power have stitched things up with their Senedd reforms so that Independents are not the answer. |
The other thing that voting Reform could achieve is Wales being a political guinea pig. The rest of the country could watch their spectacular failure here and never elect them in the first place. It'll be too late for us by then though. | | | |
| Welsh Labour on 09:11 - Jul 22 with 600 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Welsh Labour on 15:06 - Jul 21 by SullutaCreturned |
No leader in Wales, no policies (can't wait for the manifesto) and Farage keeps making promises we know they can't keep/
I don't see how anyone can vote for them, specially anyone who'd never vote tory.
I will admit I agreed with a few things Farage said on Kuennsberg at the weekend. The water company thing is a national disgrace. People can, will and have made excuses but it's been nothing else than politicians looking after mates and giving them a vehicle to make a lot of money. |
Labour have been making promises they never kept for the last 25 years in Wales. Time the people of Wales woke up and got rid of them.
We need a party that looks after businesses who create jobs and prosperity as well as the UK interest. That rules out Plaid and Labour. The bigger the mess UK labour keeps making the more votes Labour will lose. Only today the figures on Government borrowing for June came out the second worst ever. This is despite the huge tax hikes that caused the rise in inflation and the rise in Government borrowing costs. | |
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| Welsh Labour on 09:23 - Jul 22 with 596 views | Scotia |
| Welsh Labour on 09:11 - Jul 22 by felixstowe_jack |
Labour have been making promises they never kept for the last 25 years in Wales. Time the people of Wales woke up and got rid of them.
We need a party that looks after businesses who create jobs and prosperity as well as the UK interest. That rules out Plaid and Labour. The bigger the mess UK labour keeps making the more votes Labour will lose. Only today the figures on Government borrowing for June came out the second worst ever. This is despite the huge tax hikes that caused the rise in inflation and the rise in Government borrowing costs. |
They kept the promise of a 20mph speed limit. | | | |
| Welsh Labour on 16:24 - Jul 22 with 517 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Welsh Labour on 09:11 - Jul 22 by felixstowe_jack |
Labour have been making promises they never kept for the last 25 years in Wales. Time the people of Wales woke up and got rid of them.
We need a party that looks after businesses who create jobs and prosperity as well as the UK interest. That rules out Plaid and Labour. The bigger the mess UK labour keeps making the more votes Labour will lose. Only today the figures on Government borrowing for June came out the second worst ever. This is despite the huge tax hikes that caused the rise in inflation and the rise in Government borrowing costs. |
Making a promise and not keeping it is very different to making a promise yoy can never keep. Some of Farage's promises are impossible to keep.
How do you know it rules out Plaid, do you know of Plaid's manifesto?
Do you think Reform can do what you want?
Labour have been a mess, a mess for 25 years in Wales and mess for their current time in Westminster. | | | |
| Welsh Labour on 18:28 - Jul 22 with 463 views | builthjack |
Nobody could ever make more mess than the Tories over the 14 years .
As I always said, it will take at least 10 years to get ahead of that mess.
People have very short memories. |  |
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| Welsh Labour on 18:37 - Jul 22 with 457 views | Dr_Winston |
| Welsh Labour on 18:28 - Jul 22 by builthjack |
Nobody could ever make more mess than the Tories over the 14 years .
As I always said, it will take at least 10 years to get ahead of that mess.
People have very short memories. |
I may be wrong, but if there's a mess to fix, it's generally accepted that the best thing to do isn't to make the mess considerably worse.
Blaming the Tories doesn't wash any more. It wasn't the Tories who ramped up the taxes on employment, who started the capital flight, who failed to convince even their own members that maybe it isn't the best idea to let the sickness benefit bill keep spiralling out of control. That's all on Labour.
Labour are doing what Labour always do. Taxing and spending. Problem is there's not much left to tax but they keep spending anyway. | |
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| Welsh Labour on 19:15 - Jul 22 with 437 views | swan_si |
| Welsh Labour on 16:24 - Jul 22 by SullutaCreturned |
Making a promise and not keeping it is very different to making a promise yoy can never keep. Some of Farage's promises are impossible to keep.
How do you know it rules out Plaid, do you know of Plaid's manifesto?
Do you think Reform can do what you want?
Labour have been a mess, a mess for 25 years in Wales and mess for their current time in Westminster. |
I know that Plaid wants to give illegal immigrants free access to buses. Buses that young girls and women use daily. Makes me 🤮. |  | | |
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