| Cost of Brexit exaggerated on 10:35 - Jul 25 with 1263 views | Whiterockin |
Some on here are not going to like that. |  | |  |
| Cost of Brexit exaggerated on 10:38 - Jul 25 with 1253 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Colour me shocked. |  |
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| Cost of Brexit exaggerated on 10:40 - Jul 25 with 1243 views | Whiterockin |
Europe exaggerating the Brexit cost to ensure others don't leave, well I never. | | | |
| Cost of Brexit exaggerated on 10:44 - Jul 25 with 1230 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
This story should be all over the news just as every doomsday woe is coming anti brexit article was every day for about 5 years. | |
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| Cost of Brexit exaggerated on 11:59 - Jul 25 with 1200 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Brexit is a scheme to turn the nation into an Anglo Asian powerhouse. The money people want Asian businesses and people to help drive the country forward.
Young single Europeans male and female have been replaced by Asians males. They are economical more productive and wi do unpopular jobs.
Meanwhile Eluned "encourages" workers to come into the office as there are so many empties desks to justify paying for the office. She is too timid to instruct them it seems.
I think my post man or woman is working from home. [Post edited 25 Jul 12:00]
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| Cost of Brexit exaggerated on 14:01 - Jul 25 with 1136 views | Gwyn737 |
| Cost of Brexit exaggerated on 10:44 - Jul 25 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
This story should be all over the news just as every doomsday woe is coming anti brexit article was every day for about 5 years. |
It won’t be because it ‘s pretty easy to find other opinions and figures.
In fairness I think it’s true to say that financial services have not been as negatively effected as predicted (which is a pretty sorry statement in any case) but that’s one element.
Which other industries have benefited?
What else can people think of that would have such a positive financial impact as rejoining the single market? |  | | |
| Cost of Brexit exaggerated on 15:06 - Jul 25 with 1092 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Cost of Brexit exaggerated on 14:01 - Jul 25 by Gwyn737 |
It won’t be because it ‘s pretty easy to find other opinions and figures.
In fairness I think it’s true to say that financial services have not been as negatively effected as predicted (which is a pretty sorry statement in any case) but that’s one element.
Which other industries have benefited?
What else can people think of that would have such a positive financial impact as rejoining the single market? |
Well on the other hand, we did lose of lot of manufacturing when we were in the EU, compnaies moved to Europe because it was cheaper and the Eu made it easy. Some of it was the British government trying to ensure we'd never leave.
Turns out then, it's not a disaster, there have been some benefits like the trade deals that have been slow coming but are now building up and with new people in Westminster and the Eu hotseat who are being more pragmatic and trying to sort out a deal better for both sides, it's starting to look much better.
A massive proportion of the UK's troubles have been caused internaly by pure greed and self serving stupidity. | | | |
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| Cost of Brexit exaggerated on 15:21 - Jul 25 with 1087 views | Gwyn737 |
| Cost of Brexit exaggerated on 15:06 - Jul 25 by SullutaCreturned |
Well on the other hand, we did lose of lot of manufacturing when we were in the EU, compnaies moved to Europe because it was cheaper and the Eu made it easy. Some of it was the British government trying to ensure we'd never leave.
Turns out then, it's not a disaster, there have been some benefits like the trade deals that have been slow coming but are now building up and with new people in Westminster and the Eu hotseat who are being more pragmatic and trying to sort out a deal better for both sides, it's starting to look much better.
A massive proportion of the UK's troubles have been caused internaly by pure greed and self serving stupidity. |
Agree with the last paragraph absolutely.
As for the new trade deals, they don’t touch what we’ve lost from the EU.
As I said on the other thread, I was all for giving it a go for at least a generation to respect the vote and give it a chance.
It now looks more and more like an act of self sabotage and I’d rather we started to talk about a single market than the alternative - following Farage down a Reform rabbit warren of misery and hate. | | | |
| Cost of Brexit exaggerated on 15:26 - Jul 25 with 1079 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Cost of Brexit exaggerated on 15:21 - Jul 25 by Gwyn737 |
Agree with the last paragraph absolutely.
As for the new trade deals, they don’t touch what we’ve lost from the EU.
As I said on the other thread, I was all for giving it a go for at least a generation to respect the vote and give it a chance.
It now looks more and more like an act of self sabotage and I’d rather we started to talk about a single market than the alternative - following Farage down a Reform rabbit warren of misery and hate. |
yes but on top of these trade deals we are working on a new deal with the |EU. It's possble we get the best of both worlds. | | | |
| Cost of Brexit exaggerated on 15:35 - Jul 25 with 1070 views | Gwyn737 |
| Cost of Brexit exaggerated on 15:26 - Jul 25 by SullutaCreturned |
yes but on top of these trade deals we are working on a new deal with the |EU. It's possble we get the best of both worlds. |
Unfortunately I can’t see the EU giving us favourable terms - it’s not in their interests.
That could be the catalyst to start having the conversation.
Labour are really struggling with factions and this could be a way of galvanising some serious support. | | | |
| Cost of Brexit exaggerated on 19:26 - Jul 25 with 986 views | Dr_Winston |
| Cost of Brexit exaggerated on 10:40 - Jul 25 by Whiterockin |
Europe exaggerating the Brexit cost to ensure others don't leave, well I never. |
The EU's (not Europe. The difference matters) entire response to Brexit has been intended to punish the UK and dissuade other nations from perhaps taking the same route.
It's one of the reasons why I'm glad we chose to leave as I would be glad to leave any abusive relationship. Things might be tough to begin with, but in the long run you're always better off out of it. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Cost of Brexit exaggerated on 20:44 - Jul 25 with 939 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Cost of Brexit exaggerated on 15:35 - Jul 25 by Gwyn737 |
Unfortunately I can’t see the EU giving us favourable terms - it’s not in their interests.
That could be the catalyst to start having the conversation.
Labour are really struggling with factions and this could be a way of galvanising some serious support. |
EU has already given the UK very good terms. In 2021 a good deal was agreed. THE EU has been very generous to UK.
From AI
"The EU-UK Trade and Cooperation Agreement (TCA) provisionally entered into force on 1 May 2021 and provides for zero tariffs and zero quotas on all trade of EU and UK goods that comply with the appropriate rules of origin."
Immigration free movement is blocked which is why the French are perhaps not too tough on people smuggling. | |
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| Cost of Brexit exaggerated on 21:21 - Jul 25 with 911 views | Whiterockin |
| Cost of Brexit exaggerated on 20:44 - Jul 25 by ReslovenSwan1 |
EU has already given the UK very good terms. In 2021 a good deal was agreed. THE EU has been very generous to UK.
From AI
"The EU-UK Trade and Cooperation Agreement (TCA) provisionally entered into force on 1 May 2021 and provides for zero tariffs and zero quotas on all trade of EU and UK goods that comply with the appropriate rules of origin."
Immigration free movement is blocked which is why the French are perhaps not too tough on people smuggling. |
https://unu.edu/article/never-assume-accuracy-artificial-intelligence-informatio | | | |
| Cost of Brexit exaggerated on 23:50 - Jul 25 with 845 views | max936 |
Artificial Intelligence you say, it's a poser in it  |  |
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| Cost of Brexit exaggerated on 12:50 - Jul 26 with 738 views | ItchySphincter |
The city's doing well so Brexit is a success, rightio. Some idiots do really aspire to things they will never achieve. The cheerleaders on here think they're gonna luck out before they die and become multi-millionaires. It aint gonna happen, truth is we're more closely aliggned to those that can't heat their houses in the winter. |  |
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| Cost of Brexit exaggerated on 17:32 - Jul 28 with 542 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Cost of Brexit exaggerated on 15:21 - Jul 25 by Gwyn737 |
Agree with the last paragraph absolutely.
As for the new trade deals, they don’t touch what we’ve lost from the EU.
As I said on the other thread, I was all for giving it a go for at least a generation to respect the vote and give it a chance.
It now looks more and more like an act of self sabotage and I’d rather we started to talk about a single market than the alternative - following Farage down a Reform rabbit warren of misery and hate. |
Trade with the EU has grown since Brexit not fallen so we have not lost trade. | |
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| Cost of Brexit exaggerated on 18:40 - Jul 28 with 488 views | Gwyn737 |
| Cost of Brexit exaggerated on 17:32 - Jul 28 by felixstowe_jack |
Trade with the EU has grown since Brexit not fallen so we have not lost trade. |
Mostly down to services and a bit of the weak pound thrown in.
Don’t think we’d be economically better off today if we hadn’t left?
Can you think of a more positive jolt to the economy than refining the single market? | | | |
| Cost of Brexit exaggerated on 07:56 - Jul 29 with 356 views | majorraglan |
| Cost of Brexit exaggerated on 17:32 - Jul 28 by felixstowe_jack |
Trade with the EU has grown since Brexit not fallen so we have not lost trade. |
Not according to the figures I’ve seen.
If you look at one of parliamentary report uses benchmarked figures to account for inflation, the 2019 trade figures which are the last whole year before Brexit reflect a decrease in overall trade with the EU, exports in hoods have decreased markedly while services have increased but not by enough to offset the overall decrease. We’re down by over 12bn a year. | | | |
| Cost of Brexit exaggerated on 11:01 - Jul 29 with 312 views | johnlangy |
| Cost of Brexit exaggerated on 17:32 - Jul 28 by felixstowe_jack |
Trade with the EU has grown since Brexit not fallen so we have not lost trade. |
Not in goods which is £26 billion lower than 2019. | | | |
| Cost of Brexit exaggerated on 11:06 - Jul 29 with 297 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Cost of Brexit exaggerated on 18:40 - Jul 28 by Gwyn737 |
Mostly down to services and a bit of the weak pound thrown in.
Don’t think we’d be economically better off today if we hadn’t left?
Can you think of a more positive jolt to the economy than refining the single market? |
Tax take hasn’t far off doubled since 2015. Taxes haven’t increased by that much so the suggestion is firms and people are making more money than they were,
2023 saw a record high in corporate profits.
This country is making massive money. Shame it’s all being pissed away by these useless idiots we have running it. | |
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| Cost of Brexit exaggerated on 11:36 - Jul 29 with 280 views | Gwyn737 |
| Cost of Brexit exaggerated on 11:06 - Jul 29 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Tax take hasn’t far off doubled since 2015. Taxes haven’t increased by that much so the suggestion is firms and people are making more money than they were,
2023 saw a record high in corporate profits.
This country is making massive money. Shame it’s all being pissed away by these useless idiots we have running it. |
Inflation has seen off most of that. | | | |
| Cost of Brexit exaggerated on 13:18 - Jul 29 with 228 views | majorraglan |
| Cost of Brexit exaggerated on 11:06 - Jul 29 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Tax take hasn’t far off doubled since 2015. Taxes haven’t increased by that much so the suggestion is firms and people are making more money than they were,
2023 saw a record high in corporate profits.
This country is making massive money. Shame it’s all being pissed away by these useless idiots we have running it. |
I think you’ll find the repayments on the national debt after Covid have something to go with it.
Not saying Labour don’t bear some responsibility, but they’ve inherited a s@@@ show.
Public services are a mess and Sunak stored up trouble with his NI reductions which we Goulding afford. | | | |
| Cost of Brexit exaggerated on 14:47 - Jul 29 with 201 views | AnotherJohn |
The other thing to factor in when considering trading volumes between the UK and the EU is the dire state of the economies of some of the major players. In the full year to Dec 2024 Germany's GDP fell by 0.2%, France's grew by 1.1% but with a ballooning national debt, and Italy's grew by 0.7%. The aggregated EU figure was GDP growth of 1.0%. The UK achieved GDP growth of 1.1% in that same period. This sluggish EU-wide GDP growth has little to do with Brexit (read in COVID, energy prices and the Ukraine war). When economists have modeled how the UK might have been expected to fare with and without Brexit, I do not think they fully predicted this wider context, which inevitably affects trading volumes. | | | |
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