| š“ Richard Kone Wycombe 19:03 - Jul 30 with 46042 views | KeithHaynes |
Reports of interest, fee to high, but Swans reluctant at this stage to match it. Could end up with a staggered payment offer if a bid does go in. Agent driven. News is that hasnāt happened, definitely a decent player, only 22.
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| Richard Kone Wycombe on 19:30 - Jul 30 with 9403 views | raynor94 |
The BBC are saying Preston have offered Ā£3 million but Wycombe want Ā£5 million |  |
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| Richard Kone Wycombe on 20:10 - Jul 30 with 9261 views | KeithHaynes |
| Richard Kone Wycombe on 19:30 - Jul 30 by raynor94 |
The BBC are saying Preston have offered Ā£3 million but Wycombe want Ā£5 million |
Could be right. Will have most of the info on the morning. | |
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| Richard Kone Wycombe on 20:16 - Jul 30 with 9214 views | raynor94 |
| Richard Kone Wycombe on 20:10 - Jul 30 by KeithHaynes |
Could be right. Will have most of the info on the morning. |
Cheers Keith š | |
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| Richard Kone Wycombe on 07:24 - Jul 31 with 8590 views | Dr_Winston |
It is quite amusing to see some of the "We desperately need to have a 20 goal striker!" types losing their minds on social media over us being linked with a player who didn't even manage that many in the division below last season.
It's a big step between divisions sometimes. Players who shone at one level can quickly look very ordinary upon promotion, and it seems to happen to forwards more often than most.
We need to be very careful here, and people need to understand that, if the club is being as sensibly managed as we hope, those in charge should walk away if they think the numbers are getting silly. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Richard Kone Wycombe on 07:35 - Jul 31 with 8570 views | KeithHaynes |
| Richard Kone Wycombe on 07:24 - Jul 31 by Dr_Winston |
It is quite amusing to see some of the "We desperately need to have a 20 goal striker!" types losing their minds on social media over us being linked with a player who didn't even manage that many in the division below last season.
It's a big step between divisions sometimes. Players who shone at one level can quickly look very ordinary upon promotion, and it seems to happen to forwards more often than most.
We need to be very careful here, and people need to understand that, if the club is being as sensibly managed as we hope, those in charge should walk away if they think the numbers are getting silly. |
Iām thinking that price is far too high for him. | |
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| Richard Kone Wycombe on 07:45 - Jul 31 with 8541 views | Dr_Winston |
| Richard Kone Wycombe on 07:35 - Jul 31 by KeithHaynes |
Iām thinking that price is far too high for him. |
For sure. The fact that he's a L1 player entering the last year of his contract makes a mockery of the Ā£5m valuation just by itself. The fact that he's basically only got one decent season of football under his belt just adds to it.
It's very easy to see quite a lot of ours getting upset if we refuse to get involved in any kind of auction for him though. Already there have been grumbles because we've not signed anyone for a couple of weeks, even though we've potentially committed the best part of two years worth of match day income on players this Summer. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Richard Kone Wycombe on 09:06 - Jul 31 with 8422 views | Whiterockin |
| Richard Kone Wycombe on 07:45 - Jul 31 by Dr_Winston |
For sure. The fact that he's a L1 player entering the last year of his contract makes a mockery of the Ā£5m valuation just by itself. The fact that he's basically only got one decent season of football under his belt just adds to it.
It's very easy to see quite a lot of ours getting upset if we refuse to get involved in any kind of auction for him though. Already there have been grumbles because we've not signed anyone for a couple of weeks, even though we've potentially committed the best part of two years worth of match day income on players this Summer. |
The problem we have is that some supporters accept the Ā£13M-Ā£14M annual debt as the norm and don't look past the figures, somebody has to pay this running debt. There has to be an end game and we have to work to get there within the rules, paying over the odds for an unproven lower league player is not the way forward. |  | | |
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| Richard Kone Wycombe on 09:10 - Jul 31 with 8402 views | onehunglow |
We need a striker
Are we desperate ?
Opinion
Yates and Fisher still staining the books |  |
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| Richard Kone Wycombe on 09:36 - Jul 31 with 8336 views | Fireboy2 |
| Richard Kone Wycombe on 07:35 - Jul 31 by KeithHaynes |
Iām thinking that price is far too high for him. |
Agreed, hes a decent player but as winston stated players look great in league 1 but look a fish out of water in the championship.
When ive watched him he doesn't look exceptional but he is only 22, hes is only going to get better but he could be like vip š¤ |  | | |
| Richard Kone Wycombe on 09:54 - Jul 31 with 8279 views | Dr_Winston |
| Richard Kone Wycombe on 09:06 - Jul 31 by Whiterockin |
The problem we have is that some supporters accept the Ā£13M-Ā£14M annual debt as the norm and don't look past the figures, somebody has to pay this running debt. There has to be an end game and we have to work to get there within the rules, paying over the odds for an unproven lower league player is not the way forward. |
Some supporters are only happy when their team is spending money. They don't know or care if it's affordable or not.
That's the simple truth and why I have little sympathy for the majority of teams who get into financial trouble. You can guarantee that almost none of their supporters ever demanded that they spend less. If owners thought they could get away with only spending what a team can generate they'd all do it. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Richard Kone Wycombe on 09:59 - Jul 31 with 8259 views | Whiterockin |
| Richard Kone Wycombe on 09:54 - Jul 31 by Dr_Winston |
Some supporters are only happy when their team is spending money. They don't know or care if it's affordable or not.
That's the simple truth and why I have little sympathy for the majority of teams who get into financial trouble. You can guarantee that almost none of their supporters ever demanded that they spend less. If owners thought they could get away with only spending what a team can generate they'd all do it. |
It's hardly surprising the ones complaining the most, are the ones who invest the least in the club and don't contribute financially to enable us to spend more. | | | |
| Richard Kone Wycombe on 18:33 - Jul 31 with 7799 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Presumably if your owners are not fabulously rich the Ā£5m or whatever it is can be borrowed and interest paid on it. The total fee will be then say Ā£7m or Ā£8m over the term. This is how it would have worked in the Jenkins Morgan era.
Now with very wealthy owners they themselves can lend SCFC the money as it is needed Ā£1m per year for five years and not pay any interest. The losses on the transfer are only Ā£1m per season. |  |
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| Richard Kone Wycombe on 19:35 - Jul 31 with 7621 views | Whiterockin |
| Richard Kone Wycombe on 18:33 - Jul 31 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Presumably if your owners are not fabulously rich the Ā£5m or whatever it is can be borrowed and interest paid on it. The total fee will be then say Ā£7m or Ā£8m over the term. This is how it would have worked in the Jenkins Morgan era.
Now with very wealthy owners they themselves can lend SCFC the money as it is needed Ā£1m per year for five years and not pay any interest. The losses on the transfer are only Ā£1m per season. |
The PSR rules in the Championship have changed in recent years. Owners can provide loans to their clubs, but these loans are now subject to scrutiny regarding fair market value and interest rates. It's not like it was before. Having a player sign a long term contract over 4/5 years and pay the transfer fee over this term is the prudent way to do business. This is the model we follow as do most clubs including the Premier League. | | | |
| Richard Kone Wycombe on 19:51 - Jul 31 with 7524 views | Luther27 |
| Richard Kone Wycombe on 19:35 - Jul 31 by Whiterockin |
The PSR rules in the Championship have changed in recent years. Owners can provide loans to their clubs, but these loans are now subject to scrutiny regarding fair market value and interest rates. It's not like it was before. Having a player sign a long term contract over 4/5 years and pay the transfer fee over this term is the prudent way to do business. This is the model we follow as do most clubs including the Premier League. |
I think Chelsea were one of the front runners using this method. Risk is giving a player a long term contractā¦and he turns out to be a duffer. | | | |
| Richard Kone Wycombe on 19:53 - Jul 31 with 7487 views | Whiterockin |
| Richard Kone Wycombe on 19:51 - Jul 31 by Luther27 |
I think Chelsea were one of the front runners using this method. Risk is giving a player a long term contractā¦and he turns out to be a duffer. |
This is true, but you do spread your loss over several years for PSR, which strangely is beneficial. | | | |
| Richard Kone Wycombe on 20:07 - Jul 31 with 7399 views | Dr_Winston |
| Richard Kone Wycombe on 19:51 - Jul 31 by Luther27 |
I think Chelsea were one of the front runners using this method. Risk is giving a player a long term contractā¦and he turns out to be a duffer. |
They're stuck with quite a few players on really long deals that they'd rather be shot of. The Mudryk saga alone is a cautionary tale. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Richard Kone Wycombe on 21:01 - Jul 31 with 7176 views | max936 |
If Kone did rock up here and turnout to be the player people think he'll be, his cost now would be negligible compared to his future value, its down to the scouts to see the potential and recognise that potential though . |  |
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| Richard Kone Wycombe on 21:22 - Jul 31 with 7081 views | hobo |
| Richard Kone Wycombe on 21:01 - Jul 31 by max936 |
If Kone did rock up here and turnout to be the player people think he'll be, his cost now would be negligible compared to his future value, its down to the scouts to see the potential and recognise that potential though . |
He's nowhere near good enough. We already have better at the club |  | | |
| Richard Kone Wycombe on 21:25 - Jul 31 with 7063 views | Whiterockin |
| Richard Kone Wycombe on 21:22 - Jul 31 by hobo |
He's nowhere near good enough. We already have better at the club |
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| Richard Kone Wycombe on 21:32 - Jul 31 with 7008 views | hobo |
| Richard Kone Wycombe on 21:25 - Jul 31 by Whiterockin |
Who? |
Vipotnik, Cullen, Yates | | | |
| Richard Kone Wycombe on 21:36 - Jul 31 with 6991 views | Whiterockin |
| Richard Kone Wycombe on 21:32 - Jul 31 by hobo |
Vipotnik, Cullen, Yates |
Bookmarked. | | | |
| Richard Kone Wycombe on 21:47 - Jul 31 with 6914 views | Flashberryjack |
| Richard Kone Wycombe on 21:32 - Jul 31 by hobo |
Vipotnik, Cullen, Yates |
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| Richard Kone Wycombe on 21:53 - Jul 31 with 6879 views | trampie |
| Richard Kone Wycombe on 09:06 - Jul 31 by Whiterockin |
The problem we have is that some supporters accept the Ā£13M-Ā£14M annual debt as the norm and don't look past the figures, somebody has to pay this running debt. There has to be an end game and we have to work to get there within the rules, paying over the odds for an unproven lower league player is not the way forward. |
Most teams lose money because they pay the players too much money, in most cases teams have to pay the players lots of money that they cant afford to compete on the pitch, the end game for most clubs is to find owners that are prepared to pay the debts. |  |
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| Richard Kone Wycombe on 21:58 - Jul 31 with 6846 views | trampie |
| Richard Kone Wycombe on 07:45 - Jul 31 by Dr_Winston |
For sure. The fact that he's a L1 player entering the last year of his contract makes a mockery of the Ā£5m valuation just by itself. The fact that he's basically only got one decent season of football under his belt just adds to it.
It's very easy to see quite a lot of ours getting upset if we refuse to get involved in any kind of auction for him though. Already there have been grumbles because we've not signed anyone for a couple of weeks, even though we've potentially committed the best part of two years worth of match day income on players this Summer. |
Depending on the report at the time Wycombe turned down either 6 or 7 million for him in January, they probably gambled on being promoted. | |
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