| Should the UK adopt the Greek policy on immigrants? 16:31 - Jul 31 with 687 views | saint901 |
Greece has recently appointed a new immigration minister. He admits he is conservative in outlook and in any balance to be struck between looking after the interests of the Greek population and immigrants, he will favour the former.
This week Greece has unilaterally suspended their obligations under EU and global Human Rights legislation and has announced that for the next three months at least, no immigrant landing on their shores will be permitted to apply for asylum.
Whether that will slow or stop the flow of people to them from African and other places, remains to be seen.
One reason given for this new policy is a need to protect the Greek economy during the summer tourist season. Given that most illegal immigrants to Greece are automatically sent to holding "camps" (prisons), I'm not sure that this is a valid reason.
He also suggests that he will deport - without appeal - immigrants arriving by illegal means back to their country of nationality (risking their being killed or imprisoned) or failing that the country they sailed to Greece from (risking their being killed or imprisoned).
is this a model for the UK?
Or do our humanitarian principles require us to at least follow the lawful processes we have? |  | | |  |
| Should the UK adopt the Greek policy on immigrants? on 16:36 - Jul 31 with 666 views | kingolaf |
Totally a model for us.
The law is outdated and being abused. | | | |
| Should the UK adopt the Greek policy on immigrants? on 16:38 - Jul 31 with 660 views | saint901 |
| Should the UK adopt the Greek policy on immigrants? on 16:36 - Jul 31 by kingolaf |
Totally a model for us.
The law is outdated and being abused. |
Even if the reason they have come tot he UK is to escape persecution, perhaps death? | | | |
| Should the UK adopt the Greek policy on immigrants? on 17:22 - Jul 31 with 602 views | Tom69 |
Most are economic migrants and not in any fear of persecution. We need to do something. Immigration was the main factor in the 700,000 population increase in 2024. That is equivalent to a city nearly three times the size of Southampton. It is not sustainable!! | | | |
| Should the UK adopt the Greek policy on immigrants? on 17:24 - Jul 31 with 596 views | Southamptonfan |
| Should the UK adopt the Greek policy on immigrants? on 16:38 - Jul 31 by saint901 |
Even if the reason they have come tot he UK is to escape persecution, perhaps death? |
Yes because they can apply for asylum in France, where it's perfectly safe. | |
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| Should the UK adopt the Greek policy on immigrants? on 18:33 - Jul 31 with 558 views | Chesham_Saint |
| Should the UK adopt the Greek policy on immigrants? on 16:38 - Jul 31 by saint901 |
Even if the reason they have come tot he UK is to escape persecution, perhaps death? |
Oh, FFS. |  |
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| Should the UK adopt the Greek policy on immigrants? on 19:33 - Jul 31 with 519 views | saintmark1976 |
When discussing this issue it’s always best to consider the facts :-
Last Available Figures for the year 2024 :-
1. Balance of Legal immigrants ( coming ) to the UK against those emigrating ( leaving) plus 431,000.
2. Asylum seekers ( commonly known as Boat people ) 37,000.
So for every one so called Boat person there were nearly twelve legal arrivals.
Makes me wonder why some people waste their time concentrating on the Boat people when if they think there is a problem it’s actually going on in open sight in a completely different direction.
For the purpose of clarity, I quote the figures above without having any opinion as to whether the Greek system is to be applauded or condemned. | |
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| Should the UK adopt the Greek policy on immigrants? on 19:56 - Jul 31 with 503 views | kingolaf |
| Should the UK adopt the Greek policy on immigrants? on 16:38 - Jul 31 by saint901 |
Even if the reason they have come tot he UK is to escape persecution, perhaps death? |
Leave it out. Is it only young men being persecuted then? | | | |
| Should the UK adopt the Greek policy on immigrants? on 20:10 - Jul 31 with 486 views | Ninja9 |
| Should the UK adopt the Greek policy on immigrants? on 19:33 - Jul 31 by saintmark1976 |
When discussing this issue it’s always best to consider the facts :-
Last Available Figures for the year 2024 :-
1. Balance of Legal immigrants ( coming ) to the UK against those emigrating ( leaving) plus 431,000.
2. Asylum seekers ( commonly known as Boat people ) 37,000.
So for every one so called Boat person there were nearly twelve legal arrivals.
Makes me wonder why some people waste their time concentrating on the Boat people when if they think there is a problem it’s actually going on in open sight in a completely different direction.
For the purpose of clarity, I quote the figures above without having any opinion as to whether the Greek system is to be applauded or condemned. |
FFS are you for real .
That 37000 fookers we know nothing about .
Costing us 8M a day in fookin hotels and all the other stuff supplied to them .
No wonder this Country is Fooked . | | | |
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| Should the UK adopt the Greek policy on immigrants? on 20:12 - Jul 31 with 488 views | dirk_doone |
| Should the UK adopt the Greek policy on immigrants? on 16:38 - Jul 31 by saint901 |
Even if the reason they have come tot he UK is to escape persecution, perhaps death? |
In France??? |  |
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| Should the UK adopt the Greek policy on immigrants? on 20:49 - Jul 31 with 460 views | DorsetIan |
If everyone arriving on a boat was automatically sent back to France, no one would get on a boat and that would be the end of it.
And that's exactly the deal that Labour seem to be trying to make with France.
But it has to be deal - France has to agree. And they will reasonably want the UK to legally take asylum seekers by a different route.
I don't mind making a deal with them to share the load if it stops the boats.
Like every country, we should be offereing sanctuary to genuine asylum seekers. | |
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| Should the UK adopt the Greek policy on immigrants? on 21:19 - Jul 31 with 434 views | Heisenberg |
The Greeks are trying to deal with the issue at source by looking at Libya and Egypt where many of the people are coming from. It’s a world wide problem that as populations grow and wars displace masses of people is likely to get worse. The Greek minister talked sensibly about protecting Greece but also about having compassion for desperate people. Farage and his ilk are spewing bile which is feeding the worst in people. My own take is you have to deal with the source of the problem. Wars in Sudan, Iraq and Afghanistan and Libya have caused massive population displacement.
One other note. Channel crossings are minuscule. Legal immigration to the UK in two years 2023 and 2024 1.5 million people. |  |
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| Should the UK adopt the Greek policy on immigrants? on 21:59 - Jul 31 with 411 views | 1885_SFC |
"Some 9,000 people from Libya have arrived on Crete since the beginning of the year, almost double the number that landed on the island in the whole of 2024.
Earlier this month the Greek government suspended the processing of asylum applications for those arriving in Greece from North Africa and said it will forcibly return them, without registration, to their country of origin or provenance. The suspension is to last for three months initially.
According to another senior Greek official, neither EU ministers nor the Commission raised any objections regarding the suspension."
Sounds good to me. The EU's response speaks volumes. |  |
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| Should the UK adopt the Greek policy on immigrants? on 22:11 - Jul 31 with 397 views | Ninja9 |
| Should the UK adopt the Greek policy on immigrants? on 21:19 - Jul 31 by Heisenberg |
The Greeks are trying to deal with the issue at source by looking at Libya and Egypt where many of the people are coming from. It’s a world wide problem that as populations grow and wars displace masses of people is likely to get worse. The Greek minister talked sensibly about protecting Greece but also about having compassion for desperate people. Farage and his ilk are spewing bile which is feeding the worst in people. My own take is you have to deal with the source of the problem. Wars in Sudan, Iraq and Afghanistan and Libya have caused massive population displacement.
One other note. Channel crossings are minuscule. Legal immigration to the UK in two years 2023 and 2024 1.5 million people. |
Another Leftie who talks shit .
You have no clue where these boat fookers are coming from and who they are .
Wake up and smell the Fookin Coffee | | | |
| Should the UK adopt the Greek policy on immigrants? on 06:38 - Aug 1 with 290 views | mushinexile |
All human life is here but Fuxk all humanity. Shames me to be amongst you. | |
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| Should the UK adopt the Greek policy on immigrants? on 06:56 - Aug 1 with 279 views | Heisenberg |
| Should the UK adopt the Greek policy on immigrants? on 22:11 - Jul 31 by Ninja9 |
Another Leftie who talks shit .
You have no clue where these boat fookers are coming from and who they are .
Wake up and smell the Fookin Coffee |
Useful contribution. | |
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| Should the UK adopt the Greek policy on immigrants? on 07:29 - Aug 1 with 258 views | City_boy |
I have no objection to genuine Asylum seekers.
What I do object to is the illegal asylum seekers, who have left a safe country to come to UK and being treated significantly better than the people in our own country who are genuinely suffering being homeless, illness, hunger etc and need support.
Back in 2023 the Gov't looked at using old Military bases, this never got off the ground, mainly because it was challenged in the courts as it affected their human rights. This would have been an ideal solution to get these people out of expensive hotels which is costing billions.
Many of the people coming here illegally are economic migrants. The support system here is too generous, which is why they come to the UK. To get here they have travelled through many safe countries (not just France) [Post edited 1 Aug 7:42]
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| Should the UK adopt the Greek policy on immigrants? on 08:52 - Aug 1 with 203 views | Chesham_Saint |
| Should the UK adopt the Greek policy on immigrants? on 07:29 - Aug 1 by City_boy |
I have no objection to genuine Asylum seekers.
What I do object to is the illegal asylum seekers, who have left a safe country to come to UK and being treated significantly better than the people in our own country who are genuinely suffering being homeless, illness, hunger etc and need support.
Back in 2023 the Gov't looked at using old Military bases, this never got off the ground, mainly because it was challenged in the courts as it affected their human rights. This would have been an ideal solution to get these people out of expensive hotels which is costing billions.
Many of the people coming here illegally are economic migrants. The support system here is too generous, which is why they come to the UK. To get here they have travelled through many safe countries (not just France) [Post edited 1 Aug 7:42]
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| Should the UK adopt the Greek policy on immigrants? on 08:58 - Aug 1 with 197 views | Jellybaby |
| Should the UK adopt the Greek policy on immigrants? on 06:38 - Aug 1 by mushinexile |
All human life is here but Fuxk all humanity. Shames me to be amongst you. |
Are you the same person who wrote this a couple pf days ago?
Jellybrain please do not refer to me as "friend". I do not allow myself to be befriended by people such as yourself for fear that others might think I share your particular oddities.
Regarding exclusion, I think that those who prefer not to be vaccinated against virulent diseases are a menace to those who would be but have not yet been vaccinated. Exclusion from events where they could endanger others does not seem unfair to me.
Nutters railing that it is all a Government/ Qanon/ Illuminati/Martian plot
to put microchips into us for the purposes of controlling our minds through the 5g masts etc. really need to be seen for what they are and scorned without mercy.
The word hypocrite comes to mind....... | |
| I wholly disapprove of what you say and will defend to the death your right to say it. |
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| Should the UK adopt the Greek policy on immigrants? on 09:11 - Aug 1 with 187 views | mushinexile |
Pxss off, troll. | |
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