| Kone/Burrell-the New Allen/Goddard? 10:25 - Aug 14 with 3610 views | AustrianHoop |
I know totally different players but as far as effective partnerships go... |  | | |  |
| Kone/Burrell-the New Allen/Goddard? on 10:43 - Aug 14 with 2813 views | GaryBannister86 |
Ha, there's getting carried away and there's.....that!
Let's give 'em a chance to settle in and see what they have about them. However, if one of them happens to net the winner in an FA Cup semi final for us, then I will come back and praise your foresight effusively. |  | | |
| Kone/Burrell-the New Allen/Goddard? on 11:36 - Aug 14 with 2632 views | DavieQPR |
So eho would you deop to accommodate this? Chair, Dembele or Poku. None of these can play wingback or CM. |  | | |
| Kone/Burrell-the New Allen/Goddard? on 11:41 - Aug 14 with 2592 views | BristolR |
This won’t be so until Bosh67 tells us… LfW standards to comply with
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| Kone/Burrell-the New Allen/Goddard? on 11:42 - Aug 14 with 2592 views | bosh67 |
Clive, I'd like to point out that I didn't start this thread or it's title!   |  |
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| Kone/Burrell-the New Allen/Goddard? on 11:52 - Aug 14 with 2509 views | PlanetHonneywood |
What's £1.25m and £800k for the pair back in 1980 and £750k for Allen in 1984 worth in today's money?
Asking for a 27 year old friend of mine |  |
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| Kone/Burrell-the New Allen/Goddard? on 12:04 - Aug 14 with 2471 views | kensalriser |
| Kone/Burrell-the New Allen/Goddard? on 11:52 - Aug 14 by PlanetHonneywood |
What's £1.25m and £800k for the pair back in 1980 and £750k for Allen in 1984 worth in today's money?
Asking for a 27 year old friend of mine |
5.375m and 3.44m, and 2.45m.
Although if there were a specific football transfer fee inflation calculator those figures would be a fair bit higher.
On the OP’s point - they won’t be playing together, will they? |  |
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| Kone/Burrell-the New Allen/Goddard? on 12:18 - Aug 14 with 2369 views | KensalT |
| Kone/Burrell-the New Allen/Goddard? on 11:52 - Aug 14 by PlanetHonneywood |
What's £1.25m and £800k for the pair back in 1980 and £750k for Allen in 1984 worth in today's money?
Asking for a 27 year old friend of mine |
As kensalriser says you have to factor in football inflation so that sends the numbers into the stratosphere.
IIRC when we sold Allen to Arsenal for £1.25m it was then a world record fee for a teenager.
The current teenage transfer record is Mbappe to PSG for £154m.
The PL record is Romeo Lavia to Chelsea for £53m.
https://www.givemesport.com/football-soccer-highest-teenage-transfers-of-all-tim [Post edited 14 Aug 12:21]
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| Kone/Burrell-the New Allen/Goddard? on 12:30 - Aug 14 with 2289 views | slmrstid |
Probably need one to actually play, and them both to actually score goals first... |  | | |
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| Kone/Burrell-the New Allen/Goddard? on 13:33 - Aug 14 with 2172 views | Myke |
Think getting a wee bit carried away, allow them to at least be introduced first! I cannot see a situation - unless we are chasing a 'must not lose' game, where both strikers are on the pitch at the same time. It would leave a horrific hole down the centre if that were to be the case. Plus, they appear quite similar in style. For me, Kone, once he gets up to speed, will be our first choice striker and Burrell and Frey (depending on fitness) will be the supporting cast.
It looks like Celar will be moved out. I don't share the hatred felt by many on here and some of the comments were downright disgusting, even the magic of a new -born baby was ridiculed. However, I do feel he may not adapt quickly enough to what is needed in the Championship, with last year's serious injury coming at exactly the wrong time. I hope he finds a club that plays to his strengths and where the 'supporter's actually support him.
Kolli, is a bit more complicated as he can double as a winger. A lot depends on Saito coming back and how serious Poku's injury is I guess.
Finally, a quick word on Ba - general consensus is 'good riddance', without even kicking a ball for us! He's not a kid at 28 I know, but to discover in the early hours of the morning in a foreign country that your plans have been ripped up, can't have been easy. There is always a human side to every story - Celar's too - no harm remembering that from time to time. | | | |
| Kone/Burrell-the New Allen/Goddard? on 13:37 - Aug 14 with 2155 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
No pressure then! | |
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| Kone/Burrell-the New Allen/Goddard? on 13:41 - Aug 14 with 2117 views | Esox_Lucius |
Could be the new Penrice & Brock? |  |
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| Kone/Burrell-the New Allen/Goddard? on 13:55 - Aug 14 with 2065 views | KensalT |
| Kone/Burrell-the New Allen/Goddard? on 12:04 - Aug 14 by kensalriser |
5.375m and 3.44m, and 2.45m.
Although if there were a specific football transfer fee inflation calculator those figures would be a fair bit higher.
On the OP’s point - they won’t be playing together, will they? |
I ran the Allen fee from 1980 through Google Gemini and it reckoned that would now be £6,270,000 in 2025 prices:
"Based on the Bank of England's inflation calculator, £1,250,000 in 1980 would be worth approximately £6,270,000 in 2025. This figure is based on the Consumer Price Index (CPI) and is used to show the effect of inflation on the purchasing power of money over time." | | | |
| Kone/Burrell-the New Allen/Goddard? on 14:36 - Aug 14 with 1895 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Kone/Burrell-the New Allen/Goddard? on 13:55 - Aug 14 by KensalT |
I ran the Allen fee from 1980 through Google Gemini and it reckoned that would now be £6,270,000 in 2025 prices:
"Based on the Bank of England's inflation calculator, £1,250,000 in 1980 would be worth approximately £6,270,000 in 2025. This figure is based on the Consumer Price Index (CPI) and is used to show the effect of inflation on the purchasing power of money over time." |
What you're not factoring in, obviously, is that football has inflated much more than inflation has by any other measure. Clive Allen in his pomp would be commanding a nine-figure sum in the modern transfer market. |  |
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| Kone/Burrell-the New Allen/Goddard? on 16:01 - Aug 14 with 1806 views | Discodroids |
A bit previous.. I'd settle for the new Colin Clarke/Mark Falco.
An Allen and Goddard partnership is rarer than a steak and ale frey bentos laden turd floating in a flexitarians armitage shanks. [Post edited 14 Aug 16:07]
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| Kone/Burrell-the New Allen/Goddard? on 16:28 - Aug 14 with 1728 views | dmm |
This is fun but I can't see the basic formation changing to allow 2 up top. The whole coaching set up works on 433/4231 and we've recruited a squad for that shape. |  | | |
| Kone/Burrell-the New Allen/Goddard? on 16:39 - Aug 14 with 1691 views | nick_hammersmith |
| Kone/Burrell-the New Allen/Goddard? on 14:36 - Aug 14 by stainrods_elbow |
What you're not factoring in, obviously, is that football has inflated much more than inflation has by any other measure. Clive Allen in his pomp would be commanding a nine-figure sum in the modern transfer market. |
Someone mentioned Mbappe earlier, who went for 150m or something insane. A prolific teenage English striker might not be worth that much, but it would probably be enough to buy Sheff Wed at their owners valuation ;p |  | | |
| Kone/Burrell-the New Allen/Goddard? on 16:49 - Aug 14 with 1662 views | KensalT |
| Kone/Burrell-the New Allen/Goddard? on 16:39 - Aug 14 by nick_hammersmith |
Someone mentioned Mbappe earlier, who went for 150m or something insane. A prolific teenage English striker might not be worth that much, but it would probably be enough to buy Sheff Wed at their owners valuation ;p |
In the modern game I don't think Clive Allen would have gone for really stupid money.
The big weakness in his game was that he had no pace.
In today's world the big clubs don't throw money around for players who can't run.
Even in his day he only managed five England caps and never scored a senior international goal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clive_Allen | | | |
| Kone/Burrell-the New Allen/Goddard? on 18:29 - Aug 14 with 1552 views | Discodroids |
I thought Clive was very unlucky not to win more caps.
Keegan , Lineker, Beardsley, Trevor Francis, and Tony Woodcock off the top of my head were the only English strikers i'd rate above him in the 80's. Regis, mariner and tony cotte i'd rate on a par with Clive.
Outside of that England were serving up caps to Players Like Birtles, Davenport, Bull, walsh, Stein, withe, Blisset , hatley and kerry Dixon . Clive was cast from gods 4th rib compared to that crew.
For me Clive was in the same dojo as Jimmy Greaves as a finisher.
Goddard was a footballers Footballer. Class. Real Class. watched him a lot at upton park mid 80's, possibly the better allround player of the two. [Post edited 14 Aug 18:34]
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| Kone/Burrell-the New Allen/Goddard? on 20:12 - Aug 14 with 1341 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Kone/Burrell-the New Allen/Goddard? on 16:49 - Aug 14 by KensalT |
In the modern game I don't think Clive Allen would have gone for really stupid money.
The big weakness in his game was that he had no pace.
In today's world the big clubs don't throw money around for players who can't run.
Even in his day he only managed five England caps and never scored a senior international goal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clive_Allen |
Ludicrous - Allen scored 49 goals in 1986/7 for Spuds, which was a club record, not to mention 72 goals in less than 140 games in his two spells for us. Nearly 200 goals in barely 400 games tells its own story. Very few have surpassed those stats in the modern era, apart from the likes of Harry Kane (whose own lack of pace has hardly held him up with England). If Tottenham had sold him to another top club at his peak in the modern market, you'd have been looking at £100m. He was certainly as good as Lineker, whose Tottenham and career-long stats are similar and probably technically better. (Could you imagine GL scoring 'that' goal at West Ham?) | |
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| Kone/Burrell-the New Allen/Goddard? on 20:32 - Aug 14 with 1335 views | GaryBannister86 |
| Kone/Burrell-the New Allen/Goddard? on 20:12 - Aug 14 by stainrods_elbow |
Ludicrous - Allen scored 49 goals in 1986/7 for Spuds, which was a club record, not to mention 72 goals in less than 140 games in his two spells for us. Nearly 200 goals in barely 400 games tells its own story. Very few have surpassed those stats in the modern era, apart from the likes of Harry Kane (whose own lack of pace has hardly held him up with England). If Tottenham had sold him to another top club at his peak in the modern market, you'd have been looking at £100m. He was certainly as good as Lineker, whose Tottenham and career-long stats are similar and probably technically better. (Could you imagine GL scoring 'that' goal at West Ham?) |
I'm with you that Allen was far better than the poster suggested. But to say he was as good as Lineker, can't agree with you there. Lineker was one of England's best ever strikers, a truly brilliant finisher and footballer, who produced every season. [Post edited 14 Aug 20:33]
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| Kone/Burrell-the New Allen/Goddard? on 20:43 - Aug 14 with 1301 views | Northernr |
| Kone/Burrell-the New Allen/Goddard? on 20:12 - Aug 14 by stainrods_elbow |
Ludicrous - Allen scored 49 goals in 1986/7 for Spuds, which was a club record, not to mention 72 goals in less than 140 games in his two spells for us. Nearly 200 goals in barely 400 games tells its own story. Very few have surpassed those stats in the modern era, apart from the likes of Harry Kane (whose own lack of pace has hardly held him up with England). If Tottenham had sold him to another top club at his peak in the modern market, you'd have been looking at £100m. He was certainly as good as Lineker, whose Tottenham and career-long stats are similar and probably technically better. (Could you imagine GL scoring 'that' goal at West Ham?) |
Strong agree. |  | | |
| Kone/Burrell-the New Allen/Goddard? on 20:49 - Aug 14 with 1277 views | KensalT |
| Kone/Burrell-the New Allen/Goddard? on 20:32 - Aug 14 by GaryBannister86 |
I'm with you that Allen was far better than the poster suggested. But to say he was as good as Lineker, can't agree with you there. Lineker was one of England's best ever strikers, a truly brilliant finisher and footballer, who produced every season. [Post edited 14 Aug 20:33]
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I didn't say Allen wasn't good. He was an outstanding finisher.
I said he wasn't in the silly money bracket.
I said he wasn't quick. Which he wasn't.
Having looked at his wiki he was 5' 10". So he wasn't tall either.
If you can point to a short, slow striker with no international goals who went for more than £100m then fair enough, I will agree with you! [Post edited 14 Aug 20:49]
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| Kone/Burrell-the New Allen/Goddard? on 22:41 - Aug 14 with 1092 views | LongsufferingR |
| Kone/Burrell-the New Allen/Goddard? on 20:49 - Aug 14 by KensalT |
I didn't say Allen wasn't good. He was an outstanding finisher.
I said he wasn't in the silly money bracket.
I said he wasn't quick. Which he wasn't.
Having looked at his wiki he was 5' 10". So he wasn't tall either.
If you can point to a short, slow striker with no international goals who went for more than £100m then fair enough, I will agree with you! [Post edited 14 Aug 20:49]
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I was going to say Arthur Scargill until I saw the £100m bit. |  | | |
| Kone/Burrell-the New Allen/Goddard? on 23:14 - Aug 14 with 1021 views | KensalT |
| Kone/Burrell-the New Allen/Goddard? on 22:41 - Aug 14 by LongsufferingR |
I was going to say Arthur Scargill until I saw the £100m bit. |
Scargill was a member of the Young Communist League.
I think world Communism counts as "international goals" | | | |
| Kone/Burrell-the New Allen/Goddard? on 23:20 - Aug 14 with 953 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Kone/Burrell-the New Allen/Goddard? on 20:49 - Aug 14 by KensalT |
I didn't say Allen wasn't good. He was an outstanding finisher.
I said he wasn't in the silly money bracket.
I said he wasn't quick. Which he wasn't.
Having looked at his wiki he was 5' 10". So he wasn't tall either.
If you can point to a short, slow striker with no international goals who went for more than £100m then fair enough, I will agree with you! [Post edited 14 Aug 20:49]
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Admittedly, he didn't (wasn't allowed to) do it for England, but he should have been, and had he have been, he would have done, imo. (Btw, Rodney only scored one goal for his country but was still among the top strikers of his generation.) [Post edited 15 Aug 1:52]
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