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I don’t know anyone supporting the manager’s decisions after today. We all saw what happened and feared the outcome. Not sure of anyone on here putting their loyalty to a manager ahead of the club either - presumably that happened in a real world situation?
And I’m not wanting to sound annoying, but probably am, the question remains - what would you now if today was the confirmation that he always lets us down?
What will move the club forward?
Instead of continuously asking "What would you do" to anyone who dares to voice an opinion which even remotely suggests Mcnulty will not take us where we want to be, why not ask those in charge at the club? After all it's not us that will make those decisions is it? All we can do is call it as we see it, and will carry on doing so whether you think differently or not...Today was at best a dereliction of duty by the manager...Disrespectful to the away side, the fans, and the players....Not acceptable.
Instead of continuously asking "What would you do" to anyone who dares to voice an opinion which even remotely suggests Mcnulty will not take us where we want to be, why not ask those in charge at the club? After all it's not us that will make those decisions is it? All we can do is call it as we see it, and will carry on doing so whether you think differently or not...Today was at best a dereliction of duty by the manager...Disrespectful to the away side, the fans, and the players....Not acceptable.
I’m not asking anyone. I’m asking TS. ThreeLions responded, as did I to TS’s question where I stated my own doubts.
It was a follow up question to acknowledging the issues today and in the past. There’s nothing new about going over them again. If a manager won’t succeed, what should happen next?
Your last line is the most depressing thing. The decision making today created this situation. The interview afterwards has compounded an issue where he’s created so much unnecessary doubt.
The first thing that needs to happen is for him to be totally aware of the damage created to the atmosphere around the club. Can’t ever remember such a shift in three days.
Some of it is extreme, but the biggest problem for the club is the impact on all fans, no matter where they stand on the manager’s abilities. I hope somebody has a word.
And the biggest problem for the management team is how many players may have doubts about the planning for this weekend now. Doubt can be much worse than knowing.
“Some of it is extreme” it’s really not, it is all totally justified.
Let’s not dress today up, it was a complete embarrassment and one man is to solely blame.
Like many, I was prepared to give Jim one more chance this season and was pleased with the way we’ve started, however today has eradicated all hope of this season being successful - the man needs to go in order for Rochdale to move forward.
I don’t know anyone supporting the manager’s decisions after today. We all saw what happened and feared the outcome. Not sure of anyone on here putting their loyalty to a manager ahead of the club either - presumably that happened in a real world situation?
And I’m not wanting to sound annoying, but probably am, the question remains - what would you now if today was the confirmation that he always lets us down?
What will move the club forward?
A new manager would hopefully move the club forward if the powers that be deem McNulty isnt the man. They obviously do though and they might be proved right. It doesnt matter what you or me think but there's no harm in expressing how we feel. I thought BBM was a failing manager for a long time and should have gone after the Stockport County FA Cup defeat and during that horrendous run of home results and awful playing style. There were fans posting on social media who supported him right to the bitter end. Sometimes i think some fans are blinded by loyalty because they are ex players and i think there is a bit of that with Jim.
I actuallly think he's done a decent job but he's managing in a poor league with a good squad of players now and i think the size and quality could be what exposes his limitations as a manager more than anything else. He'll be torn between giving everybody game time and picking a consistent best starting eleven. I think we saw that today and i think it will lead to muddled team selection just for the sake of it. He doesn't need to give everybody game time, he needs to win football matches and he lost us one today. What's the point in players graffting to win a match if they know they will probably not be playing next game, they lose their hunger.
“Some of it is extreme” it’s really not, it is all totally justified.
Let’s not dress today up, it was a complete embarrassment and one man is to solely blame.
Like many, I was prepared to give Jim one more chance this season and was pleased with the way we’ve started, however today has eradicated all hope of this season being successful - the man needs to go in order for Rochdale to move forward.
Some of the abuse on social media is extreme. Only an opinion of course.
Can’t see anyone who has dressed up today as anything but the disaster it was. The criticism is not only justified, but something the club/McNulty should be aware of and act upon.
Some of the abuse on social media is extreme. Only an opinion of course.
Can’t see anyone who has dressed up today as anything but the disaster it was. The criticism is not only justified, but something the club/McNulty should be aware of and act upon.
A new manager would hopefully move the club forward if the powers that be deem McNulty isnt the man. They obviously do though and they might be proved right. It doesnt matter what you or me think but there's no harm in expressing how we feel. I thought BBM was a failing manager for a long time and should have gone after the Stockport County FA Cup defeat and during that horrendous run of home results and awful playing style. There were fans posting on social media who supported him right to the bitter end. Sometimes i think some fans are blinded by loyalty because they are ex players and i think there is a bit of that with Jim.
I actuallly think he's done a decent job but he's managing in a poor league with a good squad of players now and i think the size and quality could be what exposes his limitations as a manager more than anything else. He'll be torn between giving everybody game time and picking a consistent best starting eleven. I think we saw that today and i think it will lead to muddled team selection just for the sake of it. He doesn't need to give everybody game time, he needs to win football matches and he lost us one today. What's the point in players graffting to win a match if they know they will probably not be playing next game, they lose their hunger.
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Of course we should express how we feel, days like today can have a massive negative impact if the club aren’t aware.
It’s that if he's always going to let us down, at what stage would another manager be required?
And I’d disagree, it does matter what me or you and all other fans think. It’s been proven that if most fans want a manager out, it almost always happens. There are plenty of examples at Dale of this.
Once fans nail their colours to the mast and stick to it, clubs invariably listen.
Watched the game and was surprised by the number of changes tbh.We were fantastic against Gateshead and momentum is precious.
We are only just starting the season and the ethos of" play your best team " was never more needed today. A near full strength side would have broken Brackleys low block tactics and if your fortunate to be in control of the game, its at that point where you may change personnel.
Theres a time to give players gametime and how many you change from the previous game. An away game at a promoted club was not the time or place but hopefully its lessons learned.
Its interesting that McN was talking about the lack of experience in big games being one of the reasons we fell short last season and then makes such a weird decision which smacks of panic at finding his team at the top if the table.. Most would have perhaps replaced a few players today and a few more on Monday and used substitutes selectively based on yards run and general fitness leading into this run of games. A point today would have been acceptable so why not set the team up for a 0-0 and hope for a 0-1 win? Instead he gambled recklessly on 10 outfield changes, thinking the opponents may be tired rather than believing he could play Wednesdays team, win the game in the first half and then make changes...was he overthinking the whole situation,? A game too far too soon? A plastic pitch? Another game on Monday? Only he knows , but second guessing isn't managing. Worry about Monday on Monday morning not Saturday afternoon,, play the cards as they fall not as you would like them to fall... Injuries happen, deal with it when and if you have to.... not before
Its interesting that McN was talking about the lack of experience in big games being one of the reasons we fell short last season and then makes such a weird decision which smacks of panic at finding his team at the top if the table.. Most would have perhaps replaced a few players today and a few more on Monday and used substitutes selectively based on yards run and general fitness leading into this run of games. A point today would have been acceptable so why not set the team up for a 0-0 and hope for a 0-1 win? Instead he gambled recklessly on 10 outfield changes, thinking the opponents may be tired rather than believing he could play Wednesdays team, win the game in the first half and then make changes...was he overthinking the whole situation,? A game too far too soon? A plastic pitch? Another game on Monday? Only he knows , but second guessing isn't managing. Worry about Monday on Monday morning not Saturday afternoon,, play the cards as they fall not as you would like them to fall... Injuries happen, deal with it when and if you have to.... not before
It was a grass pitch.
If you don't know why your posts keep getting downvoted, there's no hope for you.
I was at the game and we were stunned when we saw the team sheet. But we all believed we had 2 players for each position, so what could possibly go wrong? Well, it showed us that the second string are not as good as we thought they were. They might shine individually when they get a chance in the first team but this team selection did not gel. How demoralising for the lads! We were back to pedestrian football. No pace, no one who could run to the by line and cross. All our attempts were down the middle and snuffed out until Tobi came on. Levi had a marker stuck to him like glue, so we couldn't get a ball to him. Honestly, we might have had all the ball but we couldn't do a thing with it. It was one of the dreariest matches I have seen in a long time. The complete antithesis of Wednesday. Don't believe any flannel Jim might spout about the match: we were cr@p. I commented at half time that our hole had already been dug too deep and no matter who we brought on, the damage had been done.
Ref was bobbins and all!
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The worm of time turns not for the cuckoo of circumstance.
Oops ... i was busy putting up a new shed and didnt see any of it I was sure someone said it was plastic last week...anyway another excuse crossed off.....maybe the wrong sort of grass?
Is there a more depressing sight in football than Liam Hogan stood with his foot on the ball on the half way line... it was like a game of walking football and a show of Dale at their worst.
Of course we should express how we feel, days like today can have a massive negative impact if the club aren’t aware.
It’s that if he's always going to let us down, at what stage would another manager be required?
And I’d disagree, it does matter what me or you and all other fans think. It’s been proven that if most fans want a manager out, it almost always happens. There are plenty of examples at Dale of this.
Once fans nail their colours to the mast and stick to it, clubs invariably listen.
I think he should have been replaced last season, possibly after the Spennymoor game, probably after the Southend game. Having said that he did hit his remit and get us into the play offs so i'm not criticising the board for sticking with him. Its their decision. Momentum is massive in football, everybody knows that and especially at the start of the season. McNulty either failed to recognise that or ignored it. He surrendered it all today and it not only impacts what happens on the pitch but also the atmosphere around the club and will deter some people from attending the game on Monday. A great chance to increase the attendance with four league wins out of four. A similar disappointment to our defeat against Spennymoor. Momentum building will have to start again now. McNulty needs to take responsibility, the players deserve better. This league is hard enough as it is without our managers helping out our rivals with his poor decision making. Anyway, it's done now.
I was at the game and we were stunned when we saw the team sheet. But we all believed we had 2 players for each position, so what could possibly go wrong? Well, it showed us that the second string are not as good as we thought they were. They might shine individually when they get a chance in the first team but this team selection did not gel. How demoralising for the lads! We were back to pedestrian football. No pace, no one who could run to the by line and cross. All our attempts were down the middle and snuffed out until Tobi came on. Levi had a marker stuck to him like glue, so we couldn't get a ball to him. Honestly, we might have had all the ball but we couldn't do a thing with it. It was one of the dreariest matches I have seen in a long time. The complete antithesis of Wednesday. Don't believe any flannel Jim might spout about the match: we were cr@p. I commented at half time that our hole had already been dug too deep and no matter who we brought on, the damage had been done.
Ref was bobbins and all!
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Yes we have got 2 players for every position but bloody don't play all the 2nd X1 starting a tricky away game - have a decent mixture on the Saturday and the Monday! It's not bloody rocket science.
Its a BRILLIANT goal to cap a BRILLIANT start by Rochdale - Don Goodman 26/08/10
It's one game that's gone wrong. Let's all give our heads a wobble and see if Jim learns from this error of judgement and gets us back on track again. After all he has recruited well and we can't argue about the previous games this season.
The worm of time turns not for the cuckoo of circumstance.
Yes we have got 2 players for every position but bloody don't play all the 2nd X1 starting a tricky away game - have a decent mixture on the Saturday and the Monday! It's not bloody rocket science.
I wonder if any of the Ogdens (preferably Sir Peter himself) have picked up the phone to McNulty and asked him "What the hell..." tonight?
They, more than any of us lot have a right to take him to task and demand an explanation?
A few more days to come for this rant.
Is he really that arrogant to think he can send out X1 new starters and they'll just do what the previous first team have done in the opening 3 wins? Why? Because of his superior coaching and management? You're really not that good Jim.
Its a BRILLIANT goal to cap a BRILLIANT start by Rochdale - Don Goodman 26/08/10
The only times I’ve seen something like that done is..
At half time in a pre season friendly and some league sides may do this for cup games this week purely because they have higher priority league games at the weekend.
But for Dale to attempt this was stupidity beyond belief…in a way thank god we lost otherwise it may have encouraged more of the same!!!
I wouldn’t even tried this even if we had LOST our first 3 games.
For me it puts huge doubts against our entire management team..if it aint broke why on earth are you trying to fix it?…we are only 3 games into the season
Smacks of complete arrogance..tactical naevity..complete mis read of the opponent……the next 5 or 6 games will either make or break my faith in this management team
The only times I’ve seen something like that done is..
At half time in a pre season friendly and some league sides may do this for cup games this week purely because they have higher priority league games at the weekend.
But for Dale to attempt this was stupidity beyond belief…in a way thank god we lost otherwise it may have encouraged more of the same!!!
I wouldn’t even tried this even if we had LOST our first 3 games.
For me it puts huge doubts against our entire management team..if it aint broke why on earth are you trying to fix it?…we are only 3 games into the season
Smacks of complete arrogance..tactical naevity..complete mis read of the opponent……the next 5 or 6 games will either make or break my faith in this management team
You mention management team...and that's what it is, this also reflects badly on Taylor and Done. Loads of experience with those two, i'm assuming they were all in on this ridiculous plan, if that's the case then god help us.This isn't the Jim McNulty show, the Ogdens have given him some fabulous players to work with and picking your best eleven for each game isn't rocket science. The problem is that Jim is now like a fat kid in a well stocked sweet shop, he can't leave stuff alone because there's too much choice.
Pick your strongest starting eleven Jim, tell them to empty the tank and make substitutions in the second half. Players will get injured and players lose form, when that happens then utilise your squad. The arrogance of him to think he can field two seperate teams for different games is very worrying. We used to have the 'dick and bollocks' trophy at our Xmas do which was awarded to the person who made the biggest cock up during the year, before people became mard arses. It's still August and the voting has already closed, the trophies yours Jim after yesterdays debacle, get it on your mantelpiece.
On a serious note, Simon Gauge and the travelling Directors can't be impressed with what they witnessed yesterday and neither can the Ogden family. McNulty's excuses are a insult to everybodies intelligence. Thats the arrogance on display though. They've invested heavily to support the manager but it appears as though winning football matches is secondary to him, he talks about the players as though they are young kids coming through the academy. He lost to a part time club yesterday and had the audacity to suggest he was happy with the display. Does anybody at the club hold Mc Nulty to account or is he just left to do as he wants? He's learned no lessons from last season. They've only played three games and he's got to protect the players. Imagine what Brian Clough would say 🤣🤣
Is there a more depressing sight in football than Liam Hogan stood with his foot on the ball on the half way line... it was like a game of walking football and a show of Dale at their worst.
Exactly this. A crazy decision to retain Hogan and no coincidence whatsoever that after he got injured at Sutton last season, the performances took a significant uplift.
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