| Protesting together 07:15 - Aug 24 with 7865 views | dmm |
There have been calls for coordinated action, such as protesting at the training ground and/or invading the pitch. They're valid ideas. Here are a few others.
*Everyone should email the club: supporterservices@qpr.co.uk I think email would be better than social media in this case.
*A coordinated action at a home game, eg at a prearranged moment fans show red cards and banners with a statement such as 'Nourry Out'.
*Boycott a home game. It could be for the first 10 minutes, a half or the whole game. A press release to explain why fans are doing this would be needed.
The last two need some organisation and getting key people on board to communicate to fans, but they're doable.
The club is its fans. So, the club's employees must hear our voice and act accordingly. |  | | |  |
| Protesting together on 15:03 - Aug 24 with 1808 views | FredManRave |
| Protesting together on 12:08 - Aug 24 by TGRRRSSS |
Are you nourrys Mum? |
I'm pretty sure Baz is older than 35. |  |
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| Protesting together on 15:04 - Aug 24 with 1809 views | 7374Ranger |
| Protesting together on 10:53 - Aug 24 by DannytheR |
We were a Premiership team in 2011 when Tony Fernandes and Ruben Gnanalingam bought us, with all the income that involved coming into the club.
All of that was wasted.
We were based in a part of London that was about to experience an unprecedented period of development and opportunity.
All that was wasted too.
The one thing the owners have done very successfully is distance themselves from the ruinous shambles they've made of a club that means a huge amount to many, many people. The fanbase isn't stupid, whatever the likes of Ben Williams think, and people are very aware of how precarious football can get. Many of us were there passing round collection buckets in 2001, long before even Christian Nourry began his long career in senior football management.
But we survived. And the terrible decision-making and lack of genuine care of *these* owners have brought a lot of people to the point where they feel so alienated from the club, it feels half dead anyway. [Post edited 24 Aug 10:57]
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Well said . Fernandes, Rueben & Co. have a lot to answer for. Rueben appointed /oversaw the consultancy firm that gave us Nourry (who I read somewhere on here that he was working for them). This current mess of Nourry and Williams in charge of things they are not really qualified or suitable for , is on the Board.
They need to take action to rectify it, starting with sacking them and replacing them. It’s their money that they are wasting on owning this club and letting people who are underperforming continue in their jobs. I would have thought they would be looking into appointing someone else to find suitable candidates for the roles of CE, Fitness and Well-being and recruitment of players etc. Or maybe they don’t really care how much money is going to waste! |  | | |
| Protesting together on 15:26 - Aug 24 with 1737 views | 7374Ranger |
| Protesting together on 12:12 - Aug 24 by Hunterhoop |
Dear Lord.
Once again, NO ONE disagrees with the idea of buying players low and selling them high to increase our income and competitiveness season on season.
It is common sense. It is what most non-parachute payment clubs try to do. It is was what we trained to do under Les.
We’re all in on data to do this now, that’s the difference
But regardless, fine.
The issue is HOW you implement and execute such an approach.
It doesn’t matter who you sign if the squad is unfit, if standards are non-existent, if there is no culture of accountability, if the game model doesn’t work, if there is no self respect, and respect for the coach. The players we sign won’t deliver that huge increase in income when we sell them. And if we’re relegated in the meantime, they certainly won’t.
It’s not enough to simply have a plan to buy potential and sell it on in two years for more money.
There is a whole host of other things that require managing and leadership to enable that “selling high” as well as on field progression, which supports that sell high.
The way Nourry is trying to manage things through the infrastructure he has put in is not working.
It’s all that stuff that Nourry is miles out of his depth on and is simply not being happening at the club. |
I agree that Nourry is under qualified for top role that he has and his project is poorly implemented.
He is out of his depth and should be relieved of his job, but the owners probably don’t care enough to take any action. | | | |
| Protesting together on 15:38 - Aug 24 with 1701 views | Hunterhoop |
| Protesting together on 14:49 - Aug 24 by 7374Ranger |
He might have had all of those, but should never have been given the role at a Premiership club (which we were when he came in as Head of Football Operations before being promoted 3 months later). He should have got his first rodeo at a lower league club instead, like Steve Gallen has. |
And Nourry? |  | | |
| Protesting together on 15:41 - Aug 24 with 1688 views | dmm |
Back in the Paladini days we were going to put on clown red noses at a home game but I don't remember it actually happening. | | | |
| Protesting together on 16:03 - Aug 24 with 1609 views | Burnleyhoop |
| Protesting together on 11:16 - Aug 24 by baz_qpr |
What exactly are you protesting against a 7-1 loss and a poor 1st half display against Watford? A lengthy injury list? Buying Nicolas Madsen in the last transfer window? Not being in the top 6 We are 3 league games in.
Am I the only one that has not been captured by the outrage machine and can see how ridiculous this all is? Christ, how must this look to a Sheff Wed, or Hull who have genuine reasons to be protesting. |
Did you really expect anything else baz?
It was an awful, insipid, characterless display and Dunne and co should rightly be embarrassed by it.
But the usual boo boys are out and want to torch everything and everyone and I get the anger.
Poku, Chair, JCS, Frey and Kone all missing from the line up yesterday. Dunne and Varane no where near up to speed, as is most of the team in truth, which is definitely a major issue.
Saito ( who will now cover the injured Chair) and a left back incoming.
Stephan will now hopefully have a full understanding of what this league is all about and needs a bit of time to adjust accordingly. We have no option but to suck it up, get our heads down and come out next Saturday with some fire in the belly and put this behind us, as we have had to do on plenty of other occasions. | | | |
| Protesting together on 16:14 - Aug 24 with 1577 views | Burnleyhoop |
| Protesting together on 12:12 - Aug 24 by Hunterhoop |
Dear Lord.
Once again, NO ONE disagrees with the idea of buying players low and selling them high to increase our income and competitiveness season on season.
It is common sense. It is what most non-parachute payment clubs try to do. It is was what we trained to do under Les.
We’re all in on data to do this now, that’s the difference
But regardless, fine.
The issue is HOW you implement and execute such an approach.
It doesn’t matter who you sign if the squad is unfit, if standards are non-existent, if there is no culture of accountability, if the game model doesn’t work, if there is no self respect, and respect for the coach. The players we sign won’t deliver that huge increase in income when we sell them. And if we’re relegated in the meantime, they certainly won’t.
It’s not enough to simply have a plan to buy potential and sell it on in two years for more money.
There is a whole host of other things that require managing and leadership to enable that “selling high” as well as on field progression, which supports that sell high.
The way Nourry is trying to manage things through the infrastructure he has put in is not working.
It’s all that stuff that Nourry is miles out of his depth on and is simply not being happening at the club. |
And you’re sufficiently qualified and experienced around football club operations to make all of those assertions as statements of fact?
Just asking like…. | | | |
| Protesting together on 16:16 - Aug 24 with 1568 views | mart_Goblin |
| Protesting together on 16:03 - Aug 24 by Burnleyhoop |
Did you really expect anything else baz?
It was an awful, insipid, characterless display and Dunne and co should rightly be embarrassed by it.
But the usual boo boys are out and want to torch everything and everyone and I get the anger.
Poku, Chair, JCS, Frey and Kone all missing from the line up yesterday. Dunne and Varane no where near up to speed, as is most of the team in truth, which is definitely a major issue.
Saito ( who will now cover the injured Chair) and a left back incoming.
Stephan will now hopefully have a full understanding of what this league is all about and needs a bit of time to adjust accordingly. We have no option but to suck it up, get our heads down and come out next Saturday with some fire in the belly and put this behind us, as we have had to do on plenty of other occasions. |
Would you call Connor/ Hoopsa a ‘usual boo boy’? |  | | |
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| Protesting together on 16:17 - Aug 24 with 1563 views | Sussex_Ranger |
I usually have a season ticket but due to travelling up from Sussex and the kids’ clubs - and the wretched 12:30 KO’s - I ‘only’ have a membership for this season. Even so, I have emailed the club requesting a full refund and I’ve asked for my money back for the Charlton tickets I’d purchased for this Saturday (yeah, I know that one is a 12:30 kick off).
As far as I’m concerned that is the ONLY thing that’ll make them take any notice; don’t buy tickets / don’t attend games.
I don’t know whether it’s Nourry or JS, but quite clearly, there is something very wrong at the club and if they persevere with this combination, this might just be the season we finally go down. | | | |
| Protesting together on 16:33 - Aug 24 with 1509 views | ted_hendrix |
Many years ago when I was a LSA member i went to one of the LSA meetings discussing the upcoming trip and transportation to Old Trafford and there was a big argument about balloons and who was supplying them, It really was like a Monty Python sketch.
I slid quitely out the back door and left them to It. |  |
| My Father had a profound influence on me, he was a lunatic. |
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| Protesting together on 16:43 - Aug 24 with 1459 views | Dorse |
Tennis balls? Teddy bears? What we need is that bloke who stuck a flare up his arse performing his party piece in front of the directors box. The sight of a scorched barse and the rich aroma of burnt anus hair should get the point across. |  |
| 'What do we want? We don't know! When do we want it? Now!' |
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| Protesting together on 18:07 - Aug 24 with 1354 views | Rsole |
| Protesting together on 12:50 - Aug 24 by Ned_Kennedys |
The Open Training Day is primarily for the young fans to meet the players etc.
You think it’s a good idea for it to be hijacked? |
Ned
Did I suggest or advocate hijacking it ?
I simply said it would be a good place to start as it’s taking place this week. There are a number of simple ways to do that - the easiest of which is by just not going.
No one needs to chant, throw balls, invade the pitch or hijack it. |  |
| Those possessed by devils, try and keep them under control a bit, can't you ?
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| Protesting together on 18:48 - Aug 24 with 1286 views | QPunkR |
| Protesting together on 16:17 - Aug 24 by Sussex_Ranger |
I usually have a season ticket but due to travelling up from Sussex and the kids’ clubs - and the wretched 12:30 KO’s - I ‘only’ have a membership for this season. Even so, I have emailed the club requesting a full refund and I’ve asked for my money back for the Charlton tickets I’d purchased for this Saturday (yeah, I know that one is a 12:30 kick off).
As far as I’m concerned that is the ONLY thing that’ll make them take any notice; don’t buy tickets / don’t attend games.
I don’t know whether it’s Nourry or JS, but quite clearly, there is something very wrong at the club and if they persevere with this combination, this might just be the season we finally go down. |
Let us know how you get on. I've bought tickets to take my lad to his first Rangers game but don't think it'll be the best atmosphere to introduce him to |  |
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| Protesting together on 19:30 - Aug 24 with 1219 views | Esox_Lucius |
| Protesting together on 12:05 - Aug 24 by SteveCookFanAccount |
Sadly I agree. I wish there was a quick fix to our problems. A better CEO who was less pretentious and ran the club better, a new stadium, and better finances, but I don't see how it's possible.
Two things can be true. The club can have existed in chaotic mediocrity since relegation, with the ownership making numerous mistakes, including our current leadership infantilising the fans and taking us for granted.
Yet there is no obvious alternative. Someone else would try the same as Nourry is. They might build a slightly better balanced squad. They might communicate better. Equally they might not, and things could get worse. Another manager might make the tactics slightly better, and get the team selection perfect. But equally they might not.
But get all of this right and we maybe move slightly up mid-table. Without an incredibly lucky season we won't get promoted. Without significant financial progress, which Nourry has correctly identified as only being viable by player sales or stadium development, we are stuck where we are. In which case, we can hope for improvement over the long term, but sadly I think lower mid-table relegation flirting is what we've got for a while. I hope we can financially improve our situation we can start looking up again. The interest in Varane suggests that however frustrating and infuriating this model is, there may be light at the end of a very long tunnel.
I am terrified that justified anger at the leadership and ownership could instead lead to an alternative in which this club collapses and no longer exists. I think we are in an existential battle for survival as a club, and the success of Nourry's model, unfortunately, is the most likely way this club staves off a major financial problem brought on by relegation. Maybe I'm wrong, I hope I am and that I am being pessimistic about the underlying club and that the foundations are stronger than I think. |
The alternative is that system has people ready to step into any positions from top to bottom. |  |
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| Protesting together on 19:37 - Aug 24 with 1194 views | Hunterhoop |
| Protesting together on 16:14 - Aug 24 by Burnleyhoop |
And you’re sufficiently qualified and experienced around football club operations to make all of those assertions as statements of fact?
Just asking like…. |
Which assertions, so I’m clear? | | | |
| Protesting together on 20:42 - Aug 24 with 1043 views | Sussex_Ranger |
| Protesting together on 18:48 - Aug 24 by QPunkR |
Let us know how you get on. I've bought tickets to take my lad to his first Rangers game but don't think it'll be the best atmosphere to introduce him to |
Will do. | | | |
| Protesting together on 09:27 - Aug 25 with 759 views | Northolt_Rs |
| Protesting together on 18:48 - Aug 24 by QPunkR |
Let us know how you get on. I've bought tickets to take my lad to his first Rangers game but don't think it'll be the best atmosphere to introduce him to |
Loftus Road will be bouncing if we win! |  |
| Scooters, Tunes, Trainers and QPR. |
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| Protesting together on 09:36 - Aug 25 with 711 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
I’m here now. Where is everybody?
I’ve brought Nourry Out flags, Nourry In flags, and painted a roundabout just to be sure everyone is covered. |  | | |
| Protesting together on 09:46 - Aug 25 with 654 views | Dorse |
| Protesting together on 09:27 - Aug 25 by Northolt_Rs |
Loftus Road will be bouncing if we win! |
And demolished if we don't. | |
| 'What do we want? We don't know! When do we want it? Now!' |
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| Protesting together on 10:42 - Aug 25 with 560 views | 7374Ranger |
| Protesting together on 15:38 - Aug 24 by Hunterhoop |
And Nourry? |
And Nourry has sweet fa knowledge to run this club. | | | |
| Protesting together on 12:07 - Aug 25 with 392 views | Mytch_QPR |
| Protesting together on 09:36 - Aug 25 by BazzaInTheLoft |
I’m here now. Where is everybody?
I’ve brought Nourry Out flags, Nourry In flags, and painted a roundabout just to be sure everyone is covered. |
At the risk of being accused of sitting on the fence, I'd just like to state at this stage that my preference is to see Nourry 'shake it all about'. |  |
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| Protesting together on 12:19 - Aug 25 with 361 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Protesting together on 12:07 - Aug 25 by Mytch_QPR |
At the risk of being accused of sitting on the fence, I'd just like to state at this stage that my preference is to see Nourry 'shake it all about'. |
A niche category on OnlyFans I’ll give you that. | | | |
| Protesting together on 13:39 - Aug 25 with 195 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| Protesting together on 10:31 - Aug 24 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
I'm 49 and a ST holder for nearly 40 of those years, so I have seen a lot.
I get your anger, but if you look at that list of pain, how many of those are actually down to the current coach? One, maybe. The current DoF? Maybe two.
This isn't 13 years of incompetence. It's 30 since relegation back in 96. To turn this around, it is going to take 5/10 years. It's like an oil tanker with a lot of historical deep-rooted problems.
Patience may have finally snapped for some, but if the owners walk, we won't have a club potentially.
On the Marti point, it needs to be made really clear that he didn't want to be at QPR. Yes, it should of been handled better, but he was off regardless. |
"To turn this around, it is going to take 5/10 years. It's like an oil tanker with a lot of historical deep-rooted problems."
The current majority owner has been at the helm since 2011. In those 14 years, he's taken QPR from a solvent Premier League team to a Championship club bleeding £2m a month, saddled with an FFP fine, and regularly flirting with relegation to League 1. In the same time, we've seen clubs like Brighton and Brentford (and to some degree Saturday's torturer's Coventry) come from oblivion to pass us by.
"Patience may have finally snapped for some, but if the owners walk, we won't have a club potentially."
The owners won't simply "walk" from an investment and no one is suggesting that they do. They've had a good crack at it, employing a number of different strategies, none of which have worked. It's time for them to sell to someone with fresh ideas.
"On the Marti point, it needs to be made really clear that he didn't want to be at QPR. Yes, it should of been handled better, but he was off regardless."
Would you want to stay in a job where you're slowly being stripped of responsibility but still expected to produce regardless? Coaching staff being restructured. Said coaching staff not available on matchdays. Head of performance job-sharing from the US, imposing a fitness programme more suited to cycling and then in denial over the sheer volume of inexplicable injuries. Little input into recruitment. CEO stockpiling players with a view to sales rather than addressing the needs of the first team. Fitness and statistical teams reporting into said CEO. Board members exerting influence on team selection and binning off cup games by fielding the development team. |  | | |
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