| Protesting together 07:15 - Aug 24 with 7872 views | dmm |
There have been calls for coordinated action, such as protesting at the training ground and/or invading the pitch. They're valid ideas. Here are a few others.
*Everyone should email the club: supporterservices@qpr.co.uk I think email would be better than social media in this case.
*A coordinated action at a home game, eg at a prearranged moment fans show red cards and banners with a statement such as 'Nourry Out'.
*Boycott a home game. It could be for the first 10 minutes, a half or the whole game. A press release to explain why fans are doing this would be needed.
The last two need some organisation and getting key people on board to communicate to fans, but they're doable.
The club is its fans. So, the club's employees must hear our voice and act accordingly. |  | | |  |
| Protesting together on 10:11 - Aug 24 with 1194 views | Monkey_Roots |
| Protesting together on 09:44 - Aug 24 by Wegerles_Stairs |
Exactly. Disengaged owners mean this will go on and on. It does beggar belief that someone with as little experience as Nourry is running the entire show, including telling the 'manager' which goalkeeper to play and who plays in cup matches. |
I agree with this statement about disengaged owners, but - genuine question - how are they or Nourry responsible for a team of decent players with a good coach putting that out yesterday?
I’m not challenging your point, as I said, I do agree it makes a lot sense for disengaged owners to be handing the keys to a club to someone like Nourry, who has a plan, but perhaps not the right experience to implement it effectively… I just don’t see how that equates to what we saw yesterday… |  | | |
| Protesting together on 10:12 - Aug 24 with 1197 views | Rsole |
| Protesting together on 08:46 - Aug 24 by FDC |
"CN out. OK, then what? Go back to what the manager wants the manager gets ref Beale era"
Sorry Wilkins but that's a false binary. If CN were to leave it doesn't necessarily follow that we swing in the opposite direction. We could instead entrust the running of the club to someone with some actual experience of doing so, with a less neurotic approach to working with managers. |
If the club really has a strategy, complete with succession plans, then Nourry should be replaceable too.
Hoos can stand in whilst they find someone else if necessary.
Should be no different to replacing Julien and Bould acting as interim.
Unless the club doesn’t have a consistent strategy of course. |  |
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| Protesting together on 10:13 - Aug 24 with 1184 views | 7374Ranger |
| Protesting together on 08:49 - Aug 24 by QPunkR |
Like, hmm, Les Ferdinand? |
Ferdinand didn't have any experience at running a club either. He was given the job by Fernandes who wanted to appease fans upset by Redknapp's management. |  | | |
| Protesting together on 10:14 - Aug 24 with 1172 views | Rsole |
| Protesting together on 08:49 - Aug 24 by QPunkR |
Like, hmm, Les Ferdinand? |
Les has made the club more money than Nourry…. | |
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| Protesting together on 10:15 - Aug 24 with 1155 views | Rsole |
| Protesting together on 09:30 - Aug 24 by golborne |
I want to be called Loretta, it’s my right as a fan |
Where’s the protest going to gestate ? | |
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| Protesting together on 10:18 - Aug 24 with 1132 views | Rsole |
I would imagine that the open training could be a good place to start - unless it’s canked…. | |
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| Protesting together on 10:23 - Aug 24 with 1103 views | Hunterhoop |
| Protesting together on 10:13 - Aug 24 by 7374Ranger |
Ferdinand didn't have any experience at running a club either. He was given the job by Fernandes who wanted to appease fans upset by Redknapp's management. |
He was a hell of a lot more qualified for being DOF, given he’d been a top player, a first team coach at a Prem club, and had done all his coaching badges, plus a football manager/administrator course run by the FA. Granted we were his first rodeo, mind.
Nourry was a recruitment consultant for non-playing roles in football for 1-2 years. Prior to that ran a social media advisory firm with a handful of friends. Before that he was at Imperial. And this is first rodeo too.
But the comparison is irrelevant anyway. It’s not Nourry or Les. It’s Nourry or anyone else we could get in to do the DOF role. We could have had Steve Gallen if we wanted. |  | | |
| Protesting together on 10:24 - Aug 24 with 1086 views | Rsole |
| Protesting together on 09:19 - Aug 24 by dmm |
I proposed Dorse as our campaign manager. |
Supporting cast of:
Bluce - lyrics
Danny P - images
Brian - music | |
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| Protesting together on 10:28 - Aug 24 with 1055 views | FDC |
| Protesting together on 09:27 - Aug 24 by FDC |
In the vein of 1960s french surrealism-adjacent protest.
"Under the pitch, the beach" |
Proposal:
Coordinate supporters to, at an arranged time, fling themselves on the floor with their leg in the air simulating cramp. |  | | |
| Protesting together on 10:31 - Aug 24 with 1019 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| Protesting together on 08:47 - Aug 24 by paulparker |
What’s a few more weeks when you have had around 13 years of incompetence
The club is a laughing stock through out the football league , it’s seen as a soft touch by rival managers & players
I don’t know how old you are but this football club had class once it meant something, that shirt meant something , we were once a head of our time on and off the pitch , the big teams hated playing us , the players we had were top notch and when we sold them we got someone in better and then sold them on for profit , most of our money has come from Sterling who never touched a ball for the first team and Eze, a player who went to a club that for a very long time was not only behind us but one where we nicked their players, there in Europe this season btw
The club has accepted being a cuck we watch on in awe at Bournemouth, Brighton , Brentford , Burnley how they are run , take a step back and think where all those clubs were when this board took over
Blackpool 6-1
Coventry 7-1
WBA 7-1
Those are just recent drubbings how many games at HQ have we stunk the gaff out
It cannot go on anymore I mean what’s the breaking point
Sacking warnock
Appointing Hughes and Redknapp
FFP
Poor signings
Decent players allowed to run down contracts
Poor managers
Poor DOF
Poor results
Poor facilities
Ben Williams
Cup games tossed away
This has to be the time to protest the cherry on the cake is sacking Marti a miracle worker who saved this club and could of taken it further if not for board interference
How ironic would it be if we go down this year and he takes Leicester up |
I'm 49 and a ST holder for nearly 40 of those years, so I have seen a lot.
I get your anger, but if you look at that list of pain, how many of those are actually down to the current coach? One, maybe. The current DoF? Maybe two.
This isn't 13 years of incompetence. It's 30 since relegation back in 96. To turn this around, it is going to take 5/10 years. It's like an oil tanker with a lot of historical deep-rooted problems.
Patience may have finally snapped for some, but if the owners walk, we won't have a club potentially.
On the Marti point, it needs to be made really clear that he didn't want to be at QPR. Yes, it should of been handled better, but he was off regardless. | |
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| Protesting together on 10:53 - Aug 24 with 956 views | DannytheR |
| Protesting together on 10:31 - Aug 24 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
I'm 49 and a ST holder for nearly 40 of those years, so I have seen a lot.
I get your anger, but if you look at that list of pain, how many of those are actually down to the current coach? One, maybe. The current DoF? Maybe two.
This isn't 13 years of incompetence. It's 30 since relegation back in 96. To turn this around, it is going to take 5/10 years. It's like an oil tanker with a lot of historical deep-rooted problems.
Patience may have finally snapped for some, but if the owners walk, we won't have a club potentially.
On the Marti point, it needs to be made really clear that he didn't want to be at QPR. Yes, it should of been handled better, but he was off regardless. |
We were a Premiership team in 2011 when Tony Fernandes and Ruben Gnanalingam bought us, with all the income that involved coming into the club.
All of that was wasted.
We were based in a part of London that was about to experience an unprecedented period of development and opportunity.
All that was wasted too.
The one thing the owners have done very successfully is distance themselves from the ruinous shambles they've made of a club that means a huge amount to many, many people. The fanbase isn't stupid, whatever the likes of Ben Williams think, and people are very aware of how precarious football can get. Many of us were there passing round collection buckets in 2001, long before even Christian Nourry began his long career in senior football management.
But we survived. And the terrible decision-making and lack of genuine care of *these* owners have brought a lot of people to the point where they feel so alienated from the club, it feels half dead anyway. [Post edited 24 Aug 10:57]
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| Protesting together on 10:57 - Aug 24 with 918 views | Dorse |
| Protesting together on 09:19 - Aug 24 by dmm |
I proposed Dorse as our campaign manager. |
I accept. You'll barely regret it. |  |
| 'What do we want? We don't know! When do we want it? Now!' |
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| Protesting together on 11:14 - Aug 24 with 846 views | mart_Goblin |
| Protesting together on 09:44 - Aug 24 by Wegerles_Stairs |
Exactly. Disengaged owners mean this will go on and on. It does beggar belief that someone with as little experience as Nourry is running the entire show, including telling the 'manager' which goalkeeper to play and who plays in cup matches. |
That’s kind’ve been many peoples point from the off.
It’s not personal against him although socially and publicly he has many faults.
The argument against his supporters , many of whom have been very quiet since yesterday’s match, despite always saying “I’m not in either camp”, yet pop up to support him EVERY time there is a question against the clubs policies or decisions , is that he doesn’t have any experience to be doing what he’s doing.
That’s not fans giving him a hard time , that’s just basic observations at base level .
Les had no real experience, but he’d spent a lifetime in football , had all his coaching badges, had been a scout too …at least there is basis for understanding.
Since day one the questions have been there …he put in place a club ‘methodology’ which I’m sick of banging on about , but other than seeing other teams with better players play this system , how did he come to this …and look at the knock on affect this is now having ?
It’s the right way forward in my mind , but you can’t just have an idea and then put in place .
It needs preparation for a long time . It needs homework and knowledge and not just stats and lap tops.
He’s assembled a squad , again…that is lopsided , weak , unfit , with huge holes in it that have not been addressed …..and yet, again, how has he got the know how to do this ??
He simply doesn’t .
He has no more knowledge about this than you, me , members , season ticket holders , away fans, people that go half a dozen times, fans that watch it on streams or fans that never watch us .
As a fan base , with the exception of a few waving red flags wildly and being ignored, we’ve stumbled and sleep walked into another situation and once again awoken too late .
We have to wake up to an extent and start holding people to account . How we do that I don’t know.
We should protect the young fans to an extent .
We should protect the young players to an extent.
Taking Esquirdinha off yesterday was a cop out and let off 7 or 8 more senior players .
But the time has come , finally .
Because , and I mean this , if it was down to CN , he’d be playing the women’s team against Charlton. If you think he’s obsessed about the young male players then that’s nothing ….and do you know why , because it’s the easiest team , right now , to progress up the relative pyramid and it’s another entry on the CV and PowerPoint.
We are being used and abused and we can criticise CN as much as we want but really , the real ire should now be focused on Ruben, Hoos and Reilly to a lesser extent .
Yes , Ruben is shovelling cash into the burner , but you can t be awol on the big decisions and the way OUR football club is being run.
Hoos is on the gravy train. Big wage for ‘f*ck all’ since he got his work experience lad in to do everything !!!!
Arrogance and disdain from everyone involved (including Williams and De Souza).
Jobs for the boys x10.
We’ve been conned . Conned by the motives. Conned by the process, conned by media leaks and ‘club propaganda’ we’ve been fed.
Narcissm in its purest form .
Conned .
Time for it to stop . |  | | |
| Protesting together on 11:16 - Aug 24 with 835 views | baz_qpr |
What exactly are you protesting against a 7-1 loss and a poor 1st half display against Watford? A lengthy injury list? Buying Nicolas Madsen in the last transfer window? Not being in the top 6 We are 3 league games in.
Am I the only one that has not been captured by the outrage machine and can see how ridiculous this all is? Christ, how must this look to a Sheff Wed, or Hull who have genuine reasons to be protesting. |  | | |
| Protesting together on 11:19 - Aug 24 with 824 views | FDC |
The problem (well one of many) is that any success or failure as things stand sits squarely with Nourry in the current structure. But there is no real mechanism for oversight of his performance as far as can see. I might be wrong here, I know Hunter and others have emphasised Hoos' ongoing presence at the club, although I'm not clear what this entails in practical terms - perhaps someone with insight on this can explain it, I think it would be useful for everyone to understand at this point.
But, with such absent owners it does feel like supporter intervention is important if we want to see changes at the top.
I think we need to also think about what the structure of the management of the club *should* look like, and be able to articulate this.
As Bazza says, we really could do with LSA playing a role here, to be able to communicate the details of supporter concerns in a coherent way.
I appreciate that there genuinely is disagreement amongst supporters on this, although really we don't know the extent of this without supporter engagement from something like LSA.
In the absence of LSA being a presence here, perhaps another important step is the difficult work of building the structures for supporter representation on this issue. Again, the absence of our owners makes this especially important. Nourry, Williams etal need to be accountable to someone, and that might need to be us. | | | |
| Protesting together on 11:25 - Aug 24 with 796 views | mart_Goblin |
| Protesting together on 11:16 - Aug 24 by baz_qpr |
What exactly are you protesting against a 7-1 loss and a poor 1st half display against Watford? A lengthy injury list? Buying Nicolas Madsen in the last transfer window? Not being in the top 6 We are 3 league games in.
Am I the only one that has not been captured by the outrage machine and can see how ridiculous this all is? Christ, how must this look to a Sheff Wed, or Hull who have genuine reasons to be protesting. |
Honestly, have you been a Kip for the last decade or more ?
Wake up . | | | |
| Protesting together on 11:28 - Aug 24 with 778 views | Mr_Beef |
| Protesting together on 11:16 - Aug 24 by baz_qpr |
What exactly are you protesting against a 7-1 loss and a poor 1st half display against Watford? A lengthy injury list? Buying Nicolas Madsen in the last transfer window? Not being in the top 6 We are 3 league games in.
Am I the only one that has not been captured by the outrage machine and can see how ridiculous this all is? Christ, how must this look to a Sheff Wed, or Hull who have genuine reasons to be protesting. |
There are many that have been unhappy with CN for much longer than three league games. And you don't have to reach the level of Sheff Wed or Hull to have concerns about the direction of the club.
We have an inexperienced DoF who appears to want to avoid accountability from the supporters by refusing to release contract lengths and transfer fees. That's one of many reasons to be concerned about him for me. You feel differently, which is fair enough, but can't agree with you belittling those with a different view. |  | | |
| Protesting together on 11:30 - Aug 24 with 766 views | FDC |
| Protesting together on 11:16 - Aug 24 by baz_qpr |
What exactly are you protesting against a 7-1 loss and a poor 1st half display against Watford? A lengthy injury list? Buying Nicolas Madsen in the last transfer window? Not being in the top 6 We are 3 league games in.
Am I the only one that has not been captured by the outrage machine and can see how ridiculous this all is? Christ, how must this look to a Sheff Wed, or Hull who have genuine reasons to be protesting. |
That feels slightly disingenuous? There have been plenty of usually level-headed posters expressing in detail the nature of their concerns for a long time now. Getting humiliated like we did yesterday isn't fun, but the nature of the concerns people have expressed have been consistent for a season or more. The past three games have seen a lot of these things start to really play out in black and white on the pitch, and at this point I think concerns are escalating because a lot of people are starting to see a clear trajectory that leads to escalating crisis without changes made in the management of the club. | | | |
| Protesting together on 11:30 - Aug 24 with 761 views | baz_qpr |
| Protesting together on 11:25 - Aug 24 by mart_Goblin |
Honestly, have you been a Kip for the last decade or more ?
Wake up . |
Er that does not answer the question, that's akin to vaccine sceptics saying do your own research ?
What is the outcome you are hoping to achieve? We are pretty much shooting Par every year give or take a good or bad year for our income | | | |
| Protesting together on 11:33 - Aug 24 with 753 views | Toast_R |
| Protesting together on 11:25 - Aug 24 by mart_Goblin |
Honestly, have you been a Kip for the last decade or more ?
Wake up . |
This club is actually punching above its weight being in the Championship. The owners for all their mistakes, do bankroll the club.
If they left, QPR would be the next Sheff Wednesday. No sane multi millionaire would look at this club languishing in the Championship in a decrepid stadium that has no room for improvement and bound by rules that put it on a financial tightrope season after season, and think it would ever be a sound footballing investment.
I say, get behind the team for Charlton and find out if the managers is true to his word. |  | | |
| Protesting together on 11:40 - Aug 24 with 708 views | DannyPaddox |
| Protesting together on 10:28 - Aug 24 by FDC |
Proposal:
Coordinate supporters to, at an arranged time, fling themselves on the floor with their leg in the air simulating cramp. |
It’s called the DUBAI. The QPR fan’s answer to the POZNAN. |  | | |
| Protesting together on 11:41 - Aug 24 with 706 views | Esox_Lucius |
| Protesting together on 11:16 - Aug 24 by baz_qpr |
What exactly are you protesting against a 7-1 loss and a poor 1st half display against Watford? A lengthy injury list? Buying Nicolas Madsen in the last transfer window? Not being in the top 6 We are 3 league games in.
Am I the only one that has not been captured by the outrage machine and can see how ridiculous this all is? Christ, how must this look to a Sheff Wed, or Hull who have genuine reasons to be protesting. |
When someone is getting ready to torch your future, metaphorically, you don't wait until they are throwing the firebrands, you take the matches off them and escort them away from the building. |  |
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| Protesting together on 11:49 - Aug 24 with 658 views | Maggsinho |
| Protesting together on 11:28 - Aug 24 by Mr_Beef |
There are many that have been unhappy with CN for much longer than three league games. And you don't have to reach the level of Sheff Wed or Hull to have concerns about the direction of the club.
We have an inexperienced DoF who appears to want to avoid accountability from the supporters by refusing to release contract lengths and transfer fees. That's one of many reasons to be concerned about him for me. You feel differently, which is fair enough, but can't agree with you belittling those with a different view. |
Is that what you’re protesting against though?
‘Give me an experienced DoF, and give me him now’ isn’t a line that will get people onto the pitch. |  | | |
| Protesting together on 11:54 - Aug 24 with 638 views | daveB |
| Protesting together on 11:49 - Aug 24 by Maggsinho |
Is that what you’re protesting against though?
‘Give me an experienced DoF, and give me him now’ isn’t a line that will get people onto the pitch. |
I don't think a protest will work to be honest, a lot of people like Nourry and will continue to back him
It will be Julien who goes before Nourry then maybe Andy Belk |  | | |
| Protesting together on 11:57 - Aug 24 with 624 views | baz_qpr |
| Protesting together on 11:30 - Aug 24 by FDC |
That feels slightly disingenuous? There have been plenty of usually level-headed posters expressing in detail the nature of their concerns for a long time now. Getting humiliated like we did yesterday isn't fun, but the nature of the concerns people have expressed have been consistent for a season or more. The past three games have seen a lot of these things start to really play out in black and white on the pitch, and at this point I think concerns are escalating because a lot of people are starting to see a clear trajectory that leads to escalating crisis without changes made in the management of the club. |
The key point is 3 games.
10 games 20 games get it.
3 games, 2 weeks in, new coach, new players massive injury list, poor start. Absolute tanking.
way way too early to be getting out placards | | | |
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