| The tardy Swansea City v Plymouth Argyle Match day thread UPDATED 19:08 - Aug 24 with 10947 views | ModeratorC |
League Cup 2nd round.
⚽️ Head-to-Head & Recent Form
Recent encounters favour Swansea: They’ve won five of the last six meetings (all competitions) against Plymouth.
2024–25 season highlight: Swansea secured a 3-0 win in April 2025.
Plymouth’s recent Cup struggles: Plymouth have progressed beyond this stage only once in the past six seasons; their last second-round win was in 2007–08.
⚽️ Referee: Elliot Bell will officiate. This is his second Swansea match—the first was a Championship game last season. He has experience in international exchanges, including matches in Japan. Assistants: Harley McKittick and Ross Murphy. Fourth official: Matthew Russell.
Bell had a shocker on the weekend, truly abysmal, highlighted by Sky Sports, Ref Watch.
No Watford dramatics please.
⚽️ Swansea City
Tactical adjustment:
Instead of pivoting around Matt Grimes (also known as the handbrake) Swansea now build through full-backs and wingers more often. Ethan Galbraith’s move to right-back in the last game showed how they can adapt by using midfielders in hybrid defensive roles. We can expect a changed side. However, there needs to be enough on the bench in case it goes all chips.
⚽️ From PASOTI - They Played For Both Sides
David Beresford, Lee Chapman, Russell Coughlin, Geoff Crudgington, Luke Cundle, Noel Dwyer, Jermaine Easter, Rory Fallon, Warren Feeney, Jordon Garrick, Chris Harrison, Conor Hourihane, Barrie Jones, Dennis John, George Kirby,Sean McCarthy, Daniel Nardiello, Kevin Nugent, Nathaniel Ogbeta, Colin Randell, Scott Sinclair, Matty Sorinola, Colin Sullivan, Tommy Tynan, Morgan Whittaker, Rhys Wilmot, Bolasi, Marc Clode
Keep em coming.
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| The tardy Swansea City v Plymouth Argyle Match day thread UPDATED on 23:05 - Aug 26 with 1688 views | RichardO |
A game that Plymouth should have won. Some good saves in open play by Fisher.
Typical , Martin/Williams set up trying to play the flanks, 4 players out of the game.Then three in the backs two centre halves with Stamenic making it more or less a back three. The remaining two midfielders push upfront to support the centre forward. So basically a big hole in the middle of the park, in attack 7 players pushing forward so again leaving us defensively weak. Slow possession at times to switch play from one side to another. Us leaving their wings with space to recieve the ball and run at us, both Widell and Fulton started well initially but ended to far up the pitch so as our full backs tried to progress on the flanks our own players congesting the area of play, our flanks left exposed, they should have scored and a better team would have.
The full backs pushed so far up the field making them easy to picked off and no space for our wingers.
There are quality players in team but the setup was poor once a team know we are going solely for the flanks they easily block it and use the space that our fullback leave.
A game to try some different things most didn't work well. | | | |
| The tardy Swansea City v Plymouth Argyle Match day thread UPDATED on 23:17 - Aug 26 with 1613 views | KeithHaynes |
| The tardy Swansea City v Plymouth Argyle Match day thread UPDATED on 22:15 - Aug 26 by theloneranger |
Sheff Weds will be buzzing Saturday - they just beat Leeds on pens. |
Huge test for the boys for sure. |  |
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| The tardy Swansea City v Plymouth Argyle Match day thread UPDATED on 23:25 - Aug 26 with 1575 views | Fireboy2 |
| The tardy Swansea City v Plymouth Argyle Match day thread UPDATED on 22:15 - Aug 26 by theloneranger |
Sheff Weds will be buzzing Saturday - they just beat Leeds on pens. |
I will be there along with my eldest and loads i know, not expecting the best.
I wonder if the negative doom monger who lives in the wirral but pretends to be from jack army country will be there in person or will he be doom mongering from a computer 85 miles away?
Id say my second choice. |  | | |
| The tardy Swansea City v Plymouth Argyle Match day thread UPDATED on 23:27 - Aug 26 with 1564 views | Fireboy2 |
| The tardy Swansea City v Plymouth Argyle Match day thread UPDATED on 23:17 - Aug 26 by KeithHaynes |
Huge test for the boys for sure. |
It will but we are still going and not looking from behind our curtains.
Dont worry keef, I will definitely be sending decent photos this time 😉 | | | |
| The tardy Swansea City v Plymouth Argyle Match day thread UPDATED on 23:50 - Aug 26 with 1469 views | lifelong |
It was a typical cup game, we struggled against a team in a lower league to us. Anyone would think it’s never happened before..look at some of the other results this evening.
We won through to the next round..we move on. |  | | |
| The tardy Swansea City v Plymouth Argyle Match day thread UPDATED on 06:45 - Aug 27 with 1175 views | Whiterockin |
| The tardy Swansea City v Plymouth Argyle Match day thread UPDATED on 23:50 - Aug 26 by lifelong |
It was a typical cup game, we struggled against a team in a lower league to us. Anyone would think it’s never happened before..look at some of the other results this evening.
We won through to the next round..we move on. |
Exactly, last night there were shocks and we were lucky not to be one of them. Personally I blame Sheehan and I've not said that before. I'm not sure if he underestimated Plymouth but he didn't set us up well enough to win. How much was looking at the next game and not the game we were playing. Then four substitutions at the same time, what was that all about. Yes we needed changes but not Four at the same time, we have decent strength in the squad surely we can manage two games in a week better. Vipotnik scored a fantastic goal but did nothing else in normal time, Cullen the same when he came on meanwhile Wales stays on the bench why? Yes we all want the team and manager to do well, but when necessary I think Sheehans decisions need to be questioned. |  | | |
| The tardy Swansea City v Plymouth Argyle Match day thread UPDATED on 08:04 - Aug 27 with 1019 views | 1983 |
| The tardy Swansea City v Plymouth Argyle Match day thread UPDATED on 22:35 - Aug 26 by SullutaCreturned |
It was poor all across the team, apart from Fisher. Didn't expect to be saying that.
is the pressure on Sheehan now he's full time boss, is it causing problems because when he was caretaker he made it look easy. Time will tell I guess.
The pen shootout was the best bit of the game.
Disappointing. |
They all looked really confident in penalties that's something you dont see from the Swans very often.
Another lower league side at home please |  |
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| The tardy Swansea City v Plymouth Argyle Match day thread UPDATED on 08:18 - Aug 27 with 962 views | pete |
| The tardy Swansea City v Plymouth Argyle Match day thread UPDATED on 23:17 - Aug 26 by KeithHaynes |
Huge test for the boys for sure. |
wonder if we will have a couple of reinforcements in the building before then or wait to do last min deals? | | | |
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| The tardy Swansea City v Plymouth Argyle Match day thread UPDATED on 08:50 - Aug 27 with 885 views | RichardO |
| The tardy Swansea City v Plymouth Argyle Match day thread UPDATED on 06:45 - Aug 27 by Whiterockin |
Exactly, last night there were shocks and we were lucky not to be one of them. Personally I blame Sheehan and I've not said that before. I'm not sure if he underestimated Plymouth but he didn't set us up well enough to win. How much was looking at the next game and not the game we were playing. Then four substitutions at the same time, what was that all about. Yes we needed changes but not Four at the same time, we have decent strength in the squad surely we can manage two games in a week better. Vipotnik scored a fantastic goal but did nothing else in normal time, Cullen the same when he came on meanwhile Wales stays on the bench why? Yes we all want the team and manager to do well, but when necessary I think Sheehans decisions need to be questioned. |
Very frustrating evening we played well initially making a number of chances, scored then thought the game was won and didn't anticipate that a football team would attack us and we would have some marking or picking up runners to do and our midfield pressed forward as they pleased , "it is ok we have Stamenic to stem the tide" we left wingers have balls to feet, didn't pick up runners, which we have seen often in the early pre-season friendlies, the midfield needs to work in a close union to establish and maintain supremacy in the middle of the park, ìt didn't happen, let's change our point of attack from one wing to another but not enough players in the midfield to offer a route forward through the middle while also providing our fullbacks cover to .press forward if we are so intent on the fullbacks being our main point of attack, surprising what a forward can do when you change the point of attack from the flanks to the middle but you have to have midfield runners coming from deep instead of being alongside them. Fullbacks can be some of your best players why would you want.them to recieve the ball in a stationary position having to turn and then create the speed needed to go past players who have set up to get close to you to stop balls to feet my thoughts are you need the fullbacks drop deeper so they can recieve the ball in front of them to use their pace coming onto the ball and because they have started from a good defensive position the midfielders can offer options in the middle so the fullback isn't stuck with an only option of a straight down the line pass to a winger who is marked and like the fullback pressed high stationary.
As you say set up wrong or is the execution of the plan wrong or is the plan is flawed.
You have to win your battles all over the field I didn't think we managed that. Their centrebacks looked poor in open play and yet we didn't move them about instead we became predictable. | | | |
| The tardy Swansea City v Plymouth Argyle Match day thread UPDATED on 09:35 - Aug 27 with 735 views | onehunglow |
| The tardy Swansea City v Plymouth Argyle Match day thread UPDATED on 23:25 - Aug 26 by Fireboy2 |
I will be there along with my eldest and loads i know, not expecting the best.
I wonder if the negative doom monger who lives in the wirral but pretends to be from jack army country will be there in person or will he be doom mongering from a computer 85 miles away?
Id say my second choice. |
Ey op Ed
It’s 90 miles
You seem ill to me and I think you need checking out , seriously
You’ve turned down minister of lunch twice so we can sort differences out and save this site from this crap
You could bring your eldest along too
It’s no good trading insults on here is it ? So there
Doom mongers ? After last night ? | |
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| The tardy Swansea City v Plymouth Argyle Match day thread UPDATED on 09:38 - Aug 27 with 726 views | onehunglow |
| The tardy Swansea City v Plymouth Argyle Match day thread UPDATED on 08:50 - Aug 27 by RichardO |
Very frustrating evening we played well initially making a number of chances, scored then thought the game was won and didn't anticipate that a football team would attack us and we would have some marking or picking up runners to do and our midfield pressed forward as they pleased , "it is ok we have Stamenic to stem the tide" we left wingers have balls to feet, didn't pick up runners, which we have seen often in the early pre-season friendlies, the midfield needs to work in a close union to establish and maintain supremacy in the middle of the park, ìt didn't happen, let's change our point of attack from one wing to another but not enough players in the midfield to offer a route forward through the middle while also providing our fullbacks cover to .press forward if we are so intent on the fullbacks being our main point of attack, surprising what a forward can do when you change the point of attack from the flanks to the middle but you have to have midfield runners coming from deep instead of being alongside them. Fullbacks can be some of your best players why would you want.them to recieve the ball in a stationary position having to turn and then create the speed needed to go past players who have set up to get close to you to stop balls to feet my thoughts are you need the fullbacks drop deeper so they can recieve the ball in front of them to use their pace coming onto the ball and because they have started from a good defensive position the midfielders can offer options in the middle so the fullback isn't stuck with an only option of a straight down the line pass to a winger who is marked and like the fullback pressed high stationary.
As you say set up wrong or is the execution of the plan wrong or is the plan is flawed.
You have to win your battles all over the field I didn't think we managed that. Their centrebacks looked poor in open play and yet we didn't move them about instead we became predictable. |
Doom monging or a brilliant assessment of where we really are and it’s not a great place to
Folk have walked away in their thousands and last night showed why
Wednesday are truly fighting and will give us hell unless we stand up to them | |
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| The tardy Swansea City v Plymouth Argyle Match day thread UPDATED on 09:50 - Aug 27 with 674 views | RichardO |
| The tardy Swansea City v Plymouth Argyle Match day thread UPDATED on 09:38 - Aug 27 by onehunglow |
Doom monging or a brilliant assessment of where we really are and it’s not a great place to
Folk have walked away in their thousands and last night showed why
Wednesday are truly fighting and will give us hell unless we stand up to them |
Last night's game was about giving game time to new players to integrate them into the team, Stamenic finding himself in a good position in the middlepickibg out Vipotnik's good movement allowing him time to shoot, Widell and Inoussa having good moments, Parker played well but similarly to Tymon suffered as marking wise because Plymouth pushed two inside forwards between the centre forward which held the full vacancy in tight to the centrehalves leaving the wingers free if you drop tour defensive midfielders back the gaps are closed and proper marking of the wingers can be done.
A number of good points in a thrown together team. [Post edited 27 Aug 15:31]
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| The tardy Swansea City v Plymouth Argyle Match day thread UPDATED on 09:55 - Aug 27 with 642 views | onehunglow |
| The tardy Swansea City v Plymouth Argyle Match day thread UPDATED on 09:50 - Aug 27 by RichardO |
Last night's game was about giving game time to new players to integrate them into the team, Stamenic finding himself in a good position in the middlepickibg out Vipotnik's good movement allowing him time to shoot, Widell and Inoussa having good moments, Parker played well but similarly to Tymon suffered as marking wise because Plymouth pushed two inside forwards between the centre forward which held the full vacancy in tight to the centrehalves leaving the wingers free if you drop tour defensive midfielders back the gaps are closed and proper marking of the wingers can be done.
A number of good points in a thrown together team. [Post edited 27 Aug 15:31]
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Your analysis is a must read
Why do you think fans have waked away and seem loath to return
Last night should have seen fans be charged a fiver with free under16s
It’s not doom and gloom to ask why the club seems commotose and fans so disaffected
We have a new coaching team, none new players and new owners | |
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| The tardy Swansea City v Plymouth Argyle Match day thread UPDATED on 10:05 - Aug 27 with 604 views | Fireboy2 |
Most fans watch because they love the club no matter how bad we play.
We sold the full allocation of 650 within 3 hours on Friday and I read somewhere that we are getting more.
Cant be bad for a team that is doing sh!t. | | | |
| The tardy Swansea City v Plymouth Argyle Match day thread UPDATED on 10:18 - Aug 27 with 553 views | builthjack |
| The tardy Swansea City v Plymouth Argyle Match day thread UPDATED on 10:05 - Aug 27 by Fireboy2 |
Most fans watch because they love the club no matter how bad we play.
We sold the full allocation of 650 within 3 hours on Friday and I read somewhere that we are getting more.
Cant be bad for a team that is doing sh!t. |
Real fans turn up |  |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| The tardy Swansea City v Plymouth Argyle Match day thread UPDATED on 10:29 - Aug 27 with 510 views | onehunglow |
| The tardy Swansea City v Plymouth Argyle Match day thread UPDATED on 10:18 - Aug 27 by builthjack |
Real fans turn up |
And don’t grade other fans
Looking at last night attendances we have not many “ real fans”
Slagging off fellow followers and trying to stigmatise them is what really dhit fans do
We all love this club and don’t forget it | |
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| The tardy Swansea City v Plymouth Argyle Match day thread UPDATED on 10:30 - Aug 27 with 505 views | nicky |
Fair play to Fisher. I still blame him for their goal - he should have been coming for that and catching or punching it. But aside from that he did well in open play and the pen save. |  | | |
| The tardy Swansea City v Plymouth Argyle Match day thread UPDATED on 10:44 - Aug 27 with 457 views | builthjack |
| The tardy Swansea City v Plymouth Argyle Match day thread UPDATED on 10:29 - Aug 27 by onehunglow |
And don’t grade other fans
Looking at last night attendances we have not many “ real fans”
Slagging off fellow followers and trying to stigmatise them is what really dhit fans do
We all love this club and don’t forget it |
The club didn’t help matters. A few that I know couldn’t get 2 together on the ticketing site, tried phoning the club, they were 20+ in the queue, gave up after an hour or so. | |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| The tardy Swansea City v Plymouth Argyle Match day thread UPDATED on 10:47 - Aug 27 with 441 views | onehunglow |
| The tardy Swansea City v Plymouth Argyle Match day thread UPDATED on 10:30 - Aug 27 by nicky |
Fair play to Fisher. I still blame him for their goal - he should have been coming for that and catching or punching it. But aside from that he did well in open play and the pen save. |
For him he had a stand out game
However several saves were shots straight at him and the Sorronola save simply what was deserved after such an arrogant effort at goal
We won and that’s great but let’s not kid ourselves we should have lost to a lower league club who’ve had a bad start to their season
There are “ positives”
There are more questions than answers like why Wales is ignored in favour of Cullen
Wales was highly regarded and our first signing so I thought he was one we really wanted but he’s not playing | |
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| The tardy Swansea City v Plymouth Argyle Match day thread UPDATED on 10:47 - Aug 27 with 441 views | sw02sea |
| The tardy Swansea City v Plymouth Argyle Match day thread UPDATED on 10:05 - Aug 27 by Fireboy2 |
Most fans watch because they love the club no matter how bad we play.
We sold the full allocation of 650 within 3 hours on Friday and I read somewhere that we are getting more.
Cant be bad for a team that is doing sh!t. |
Must admit, last night was like watching Martin & Williams again.
I was totally bored except for our one strike wonder Sputnik.
Plymouth should have won at a canter.
I’ve repurchased my season ticket on the back of the new owners / board actually spending their own money, rebuilding the club.
I have full faith in what they are trying to achieve, but have wondered why the 2 homes games weren’t sellouts ?
But games like last night, remind fans we are a long way from The Premiership, aimless possession with no shots, and I feel until we sign a “decent” striker that gives the fans that buzz, they won’t part with their hard earned. | | | |
| The tardy Swansea City v Plymouth Argyle Match day thread UPDATED on 10:54 - Aug 27 with 398 views | raynor94 |
| The tardy Swansea City v Plymouth Argyle Match day thread UPDATED on 10:47 - Aug 27 by sw02sea |
Must admit, last night was like watching Martin & Williams again.
I was totally bored except for our one strike wonder Sputnik.
Plymouth should have won at a canter.
I’ve repurchased my season ticket on the back of the new owners / board actually spending their own money, rebuilding the club.
I have full faith in what they are trying to achieve, but have wondered why the 2 homes games weren’t sellouts ?
But games like last night, remind fans we are a long way from The Premiership, aimless possession with no shots, and I feel until we sign a “decent” striker that gives the fans that buzz, they won’t part with their hard earned. |
"Why weren't the 2 home games sell outs" simply around 15500 is our average gate even our premier league promotion that was our average gate.
The football of the last few years has been boring winning football might get a few more in but for some reason we are not a hot bed of support |  |
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| The tardy Swansea City v Plymouth Argyle Match day thread UPDATED on 11:02 - Aug 27 with 379 views | onehunglow |
| The tardy Swansea City v Plymouth Argyle Match day thread UPDATED on 10:54 - Aug 27 by raynor94 |
"Why weren't the 2 home games sell outs" simply around 15500 is our average gate even our premier league promotion that was our average gate.
The football of the last few years has been boring winning football might get a few more in but for some reason we are not a hot bed of support |
Morning Ray
Same with rugby crowd in Swansea
It’s sad
As regards us , I truly believe the damage caused by previous coaches has been as profound as Ive said many times before
Last night the crowd were there and silent from the off
There was little to get arsrs off the seats and draw back people
Sheehan , whilst a nice guy, isn’t charismatic as a figure that can draw fans back
We were thinking the new signings were the ones to enthuse
Wales omission is bizarre
Last night sideways endless passing whilst looking for a winner at home
This has to be said
Right now , it ain’t right
Wednesday , a club in dire straights , have fans who are burning with pride and Saturday will be a real sea change from last night
They will be targeting us big time | |
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| The tardy Swansea City v Plymouth Argyle Match day thread UPDATED on 11:04 - Aug 27 with 370 views | onehunglow |
| The tardy Swansea City v Plymouth Argyle Match day thread UPDATED on 10:44 - Aug 27 by builthjack |
The club didn’t help matters. A few that I know couldn’t get 2 together on the ticketing site, tried phoning the club, they were 20+ in the queue, gave up after an hour or so. |
True K
I’m
Not sure the club have improved in many ways
They couldn’t be worse though | |
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| The tardy Swansea City v Plymouth Argyle Match day thread UPDATED on 11:36 - Aug 27 with 280 views | Whiterockin |
Sometimes the work behind a win goes unseen.
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| The tardy Swansea City v Plymouth Argyle Match day thread UPDATED on 11:44 - Aug 27 with 238 views | Dr_Winston |
| The tardy Swansea City v Plymouth Argyle Match day thread UPDATED on 10:54 - Aug 27 by raynor94 |
"Why weren't the 2 home games sell outs" simply around 15500 is our average gate even our premier league promotion that was our average gate.
The football of the last few years has been boring winning football might get a few more in but for some reason we are not a hot bed of support |
This. A five minute check of our attendances in 2010/11 confirm that we're currently getting more in than we did for most of that season. |  |
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