| If we go down , does anyone give a shit. 21:37 - Aug 25 with 2844 views | qpr_1968 |
i'm talking about the club, not the fans....
signed 3 good'ns today, in my eyes.
think we'll survive this season, just.
16....in my opinion....a mad prediction i know....
but a hopefull one, we'll see. |  |
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| If we go down , does anyone give a shit. on 22:50 - Aug 25 with 2617 views | hoops_legend |
Yes of course they do |  |
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| If we go down , does anyone give a shit. on 07:04 - Aug 26 with 2298 views | kropotkin41 |
| If we go down , does anyone give a shit. on 22:50 - Aug 25 by hoops_legend |
Yes of course they do |
It's an interesting question though. Would the club automatically lose more money every month in League One? I would guess so. Is the only business plan that would see relegation as as a positive one that ends with the club folding? Or is there some mad lower league dipping scenario that makes spreadsheet sense?
I wouldn't have thought so, but maybe? |  |
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| If we go down , does anyone give a shit. on 07:15 - Aug 26 with 2258 views | Gus_iom |
| If we go down , does anyone give a shit. on 07:04 - Aug 26 by kropotkin41 |
It's an interesting question though. Would the club automatically lose more money every month in League One? I would guess so. Is the only business plan that would see relegation as as a positive one that ends with the club folding? Or is there some mad lower league dipping scenario that makes spreadsheet sense?
I wouldn't have thought so, but maybe? |
I honestly don't believe anyone wants relegation.
But it is a way of circumnavigating ffp rules, to a degree.
Of course, you still have to do that to good effect. | |
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| If we go down , does anyone give a shit. on 07:28 - Aug 26 with 2199 views | gazza1 |
| If we go down , does anyone give a shit. on 07:04 - Aug 26 by kropotkin41 |
It's an interesting question though. Would the club automatically lose more money every month in League One? I would guess so. Is the only business plan that would see relegation as as a positive one that ends with the club folding? Or is there some mad lower league dipping scenario that makes spreadsheet sense?
I wouldn't have thought so, but maybe? |
Far from an interesting question, very far!!!! | | | |
| If we go down , does anyone give a shit. on 07:47 - Aug 26 with 2154 views | Juzzie |
Here we go again, the annual bed-wetting after a few crap results.
See posts from this time last year and the year before.
Sure, it ain’t great but remember when we got walloped by Watford a year or so ago? IIRC we finished one point behind them by the end.
And yes, of course people will give a schit. |  | | |
| If we go down , does anyone give a shit. on 07:54 - Aug 26 with 2105 views | FDC |
| If we go down , does anyone give a shit. on 07:04 - Aug 26 by kropotkin41 |
It's an interesting question though. Would the club automatically lose more money every month in League One? I would guess so. Is the only business plan that would see relegation as as a positive one that ends with the club folding? Or is there some mad lower league dipping scenario that makes spreadsheet sense?
I wouldn't have thought so, but maybe? |
I mean, Birmingham are a case-study in using their time in L1 to good effect, and listening to their supporters they had a great time blowing people off the pitch every weekend. Presumably they didn't lose money because they had a full house every weekend.
So yeah the Birmingham scenario is you use a season in L1 to get around FFP, load up the squad, get promoted with a better squad and hope to get up to the premiership before FFP takes you out. Risky though, and there are obviously many more cases of clubs sinking without trace. A good friend of mine is an Oldham supporter, and we often discuss that Furlong goal as a sliding doors moment for two fairly similarly-sized clubs up until that point.
I can't imagine CN would want a relegation on his CV, and relegation would presumably only further our owners' disinterest. Another poster - forget who - described QPR as being like a forgotten direct debit, which captures it wonderfully. So absolutely no guarantee at all that the owners would be inclined to start pumping money into the club if we were to get relegated.
Summary: let's not chance it [Post edited 26 Aug 8:04]
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| If we go down , does anyone give a shit. on 11:02 - Aug 26 with 1789 views | Paddyhoops |
This isn’t a leauge one squad. That doesn’t mean to say the management is.,
We’ll be fine . 43 games to sort it out. | | | |
| If we go down , does anyone give a shit. on 11:08 - Aug 26 with 1762 views | jeffranger50 |
Stupid question, get behind the club & results like Saturday do happen, performance wise unacceptable, we go again Saturday & will need full support | | | |
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| If we go down , does anyone give a shit. on 12:27 - Aug 26 with 1605 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
In defence of the original poster, Les Ferdinand said that League One would mean less financial restraint. |  | | |
| If we go down , does anyone give a shit. on 12:29 - Aug 26 with 1593 views | daveB |
| If we go down , does anyone give a shit. on 12:27 - Aug 26 by BazzaInTheLoft |
In defence of the original poster, Les Ferdinand said that League One would mean less financial restraint. |
but he did say it would be a difficult league to get out of
I think we have more than enough to stay up and will probably do so comfortably |  | | |
| If we go down , does anyone give a shit. on 12:36 - Aug 26 with 1541 views | ted_hendrix |
League 1 Is a graveyard for clubs and It also spells failure for QPR.
I'd be distraught were we to get relegated (which we won't). |  |
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| If we go down , does anyone give a shit. on 12:41 - Aug 26 with 1496 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| If we go down , does anyone give a shit. on 12:36 - Aug 26 by ted_hendrix |
League 1 Is a graveyard for clubs and It also spells failure for QPR.
I'd be distraught were we to get relegated (which we won't). |
'League 1 Is a graveyard for clubs'
I can think of at least six teams in the last ten years that made it to the Premiership from there. | | | |
| If we go down , does anyone give a shit. on 12:43 - Aug 26 with 1480 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| If we go down , does anyone give a shit. on 12:29 - Aug 26 by daveB |
but he did say it would be a difficult league to get out of
I think we have more than enough to stay up and will probably do so comfortably |
If what I am hearing is true, players and staff both think we'll go down. | | | |
| If we go down , does anyone give a shit. on 12:46 - Aug 26 with 1458 views | slmrstid |
| If we go down , does anyone give a shit. on 07:54 - Aug 26 by FDC |
I mean, Birmingham are a case-study in using their time in L1 to good effect, and listening to their supporters they had a great time blowing people off the pitch every weekend. Presumably they didn't lose money because they had a full house every weekend.
So yeah the Birmingham scenario is you use a season in L1 to get around FFP, load up the squad, get promoted with a better squad and hope to get up to the premiership before FFP takes you out. Risky though, and there are obviously many more cases of clubs sinking without trace. A good friend of mine is an Oldham supporter, and we often discuss that Furlong goal as a sliding doors moment for two fairly similarly-sized clubs up until that point.
I can't imagine CN would want a relegation on his CV, and relegation would presumably only further our owners' disinterest. Another poster - forget who - described QPR as being like a forgotten direct debit, which captures it wonderfully. So absolutely no guarantee at all that the owners would be inclined to start pumping money into the club if we were to get relegated.
Summary: let's not chance it [Post edited 26 Aug 8:04]
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The club would need motivated owners to do what the likes of Birmingham have done in League One.
We do not, so we'd be more likely to sink without a trace and be down the bottom two leagues for the long haul. |  | | |
| If we go down , does anyone give a shit. on 12:47 - Aug 26 with 1447 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
In true The Producers style, I think if our board actually targeted getting relegated we'd end up being promoted instead. | | | |
| If we go down , does anyone give a shit. on 15:51 - Aug 26 with 1288 views | NewcastleHoop |
The worst thing about being relegated is all the games you have to lose to do it.
Once we're in League One we'll adjust to the new reality, win more games than we lose, and have a chance to get a young core in place that propels us straight through the Championship.
Really the best that can be said for life in the Championship from a sustainability point of view, is that it's where you have to be to get promoted to the Prem. If your plan is Premier League in five years, you're literally better off spending years 2 and 3 in League One than having to loan in Ronnie Edwards/Jamal Lowe/Andre Gray/Nakhi Wells just to stay in the Championship. | | | |
| If we go down , does anyone give a shit. on 16:17 - Aug 26 with 1221 views | numptydumpty |
No one wants a Relegation on their CV.
Managers, players, head coaches, recruitment managers, CEO's, DoF's, Heads of Methodology or Directors of Performance and least of all us fans.
It seemed to work for Birmingham but they splashed the cash big time. If you dont get out in first two sessons, it could be a long time before promotion is achieved, once more.
The issue also, clearly being massive impact on sales and monies in.
For me, we have a decent squad and not bad enough to be in the bottom three.
I hope Coventry result will soon be forgotten as a major blip, but also learnt from. As there were many red flags on show, indicating that things must be done very differently. [Post edited 26 Aug 16:19]
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| If we go down , does anyone give a shit. on 17:04 - Aug 26 with 1093 views | HillingdonR |
At a fans forum not so long ago, I distinctly remember Amit saying there was absolutely NO argument for targeting relegation as your aim for the season. So with that said, I assume the board do care that we stay in the Championship. | | | |
| If we go down , does anyone give a shit. on 17:19 - Aug 26 with 1039 views | mart_Goblin |
This thread is a bit much even for me .
No thanks |  | | |
| If we go down , does anyone give a shit. on 17:56 - Aug 26 with 922 views | derbyhoop |
| If we go down , does anyone give a shit. on 12:36 - Aug 26 by ted_hendrix |
League 1 Is a graveyard for clubs and It also spells failure for QPR.
I'd be distraught were we to get relegated (which we won't). |
Bolton, Huddersfield, Rotherham and Wigan should also be a recent pointer to consequences |  |
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| If we go down , does anyone give a shit. on 18:28 - Aug 26 with 832 views | Boston |
No thanks, there's misery and then there's relegation misery.
And I don't think we're going down. | |
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| If we go down , does anyone give a shit. on 18:45 - Aug 26 with 793 views | HAMRanger |
No way we're going down! |  | | |
| If we go down , does anyone give a shit. on 19:25 - Aug 26 with 684 views | NorthantsHoop |
We are a 2nd tier club and shall hopefully remain one, the last game was a major blip, it is far too early to write off the season based on a couple of games. I do have concerns about the new manager, but it's QPR init. |  | | |
| If we go down , does anyone give a shit. on 20:25 - Aug 26 with 590 views | numptydumpty |
| If we go down , does anyone give a shit. on 19:25 - Aug 26 by NorthantsHoop |
We are a 2nd tier club and shall hopefully remain one, the last game was a major blip, it is far too early to write off the season based on a couple of games. I do have concerns about the new manager, but it's QPR init. |
Whats the odds on us beating Charlton 7- 1....
Probably a likely result knowing QPR !!!! | |
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