| Nigel's cunning plan 14:19 - Aug 26 with 3807 views | johnlangy |
Let's assume Reform are elected to Government at the next GE with a sufficient majority to do what Nigel says. That is to get out of the ECHR and whichever other International treaties he deems necessary.
Once that is done he wants to start mass deportations. Before he can carry out those deportations he will have to come to agreements with the illegal immigrants/asylum seekers original countries Governments for them to accept their citizens back.
That means countries like Afghanistan, Syria, Yemen and many others, maybe twenty in total. Until those agreements are in place they can't start the deportations.
So my question is, how long do you think it will be before those agreements are in place ? |  | | |  |
| Nigel's cunning plan on 17:36 - Aug 26 with 1627 views | ItchySphincter |
Never, ever. ……. and then the loonies that voted Brexit and gave away our freedoms, and subsequently vote for reform in a doubling down of the stupid, will find the next blackshirt wannabe Mosley and take us further and further down the shitpipe. If it wasn’t so tragic it would be funny. |  |
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| Nigel's cunning plan on 17:41 - Aug 26 with 1621 views | builthjack |
Nigel. Indeed. Twp he is. |  |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Nigel's cunning plan on 18:25 - Aug 26 with 1581 views | shingle |
| Nigel's cunning plan on 17:36 - Aug 26 by ItchySphincter |
Never, ever. ……. and then the loonies that voted Brexit and gave away our freedoms, and subsequently vote for reform in a doubling down of the stupid, will find the next blackshirt wannabe Mosley and take us further and further down the shitpipe. If it wasn’t so tragic it would be funny. |
Drama queen alert.  | | | |
| Nigel's cunning plan on 18:27 - Aug 26 with 1572 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Nigel's cunning plan on 18:25 - Aug 26 by shingle |
Drama queen alert. |
How do you explain the fact that there were no boats before Brexit.? One line put downs are a favourite on here but do not amount to much. |  |
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| Nigel's cunning plan on 18:28 - Aug 26 with 1566 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
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The 'Rwanda Solution': using Australia's playbook – Migration ...
Australia significantly reduced irregular maritime arrivals through Operation Sovereign Borders, a policy that began in 2013. This operation involved "turnbacks" where boats were intercepted and sent back to their point of departure or nearest safe country, preventing them from reaching Australian shores. The policy also includes offshore processing of asylum claims in third countries and mandatory detention for those who manage to arrive in Australia by boat. [Post edited 26 Aug 18:29]
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| Nigel's cunning plan on 18:32 - Aug 26 with 1556 views | shingle |
| Nigel's cunning plan on 18:27 - Aug 26 by ReslovenSwan1 |
How do you explain the fact that there were no boats before Brexit.? One line put downs are a favourite on here but do not amount to much. |
Upset drama queen alert. | | | |
| Nigel's cunning plan on 18:35 - Aug 26 with 1551 views | Boundy |
and I give you either the Tories or more of this Labour shysters, I suppose the wet lettuce types could always vote Lim Dem now that would be funny although not as funny as the Monster Raving Looney party or what ever they're called this days . | |
| "In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master." |
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| Nigel's cunning plan on 18:44 - Aug 26 with 1530 views | Whiterockin |
| Nigel's cunning plan on 18:27 - Aug 26 by ReslovenSwan1 |
How do you explain the fact that there were no boats before Brexit.? One line put downs are a favourite on here but do not amount to much. |
Cross-channel small boat immigration started significantly with small, sporadic crossings in 2014-2015, but substantial numbers were not detected until late 2018, when the government began to record crossings. This marked a shift from previous stowing away methods, with the Home Office officially logging the first small boat arrival on January 31, 2018 |  | | |
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| Nigel's cunning plan on 18:55 - Aug 26 with 1465 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Nigel's cunning plan on 18:44 - Aug 26 by Whiterockin |
Cross-channel small boat immigration started significantly with small, sporadic crossings in 2014-2015, but substantial numbers were not detected until late 2018, when the government began to record crossings. This marked a shift from previous stowing away methods, with the Home Office officially logging the first small boat arrival on January 31, 2018 |
Fact alert.
before Brexit, the UK participated in the EU's Dublin Regulation, which was an agreement allowing for the return of asylum seekers to the first EU country they entered. After the UK left the EU, it was no longer bound by the Dublin Regulation.
Farage did the "who's laughing now" speech in the EU Parliament. Very pleased of himself he was. | |
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| Nigel's cunning plan on 19:27 - Aug 26 with 1422 views | Boundy |
| Nigel's cunning plan on 17:36 - Aug 26 by ItchySphincter |
Never, ever. ……. and then the loonies that voted Brexit and gave away our freedoms, and subsequently vote for reform in a doubling down of the stupid, will find the next blackshirt wannabe Mosley and take us further and further down the shitpipe. If it wasn’t so tragic it would be funny. |
Blackshirts,FFS get a grip. | |
| "In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master." |
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| Nigel's cunning plan on 19:30 - Aug 26 with 1412 views | KeithHaynes |
| Nigel's cunning plan on 17:36 - Aug 26 by ItchySphincter |
Never, ever. ……. and then the loonies that voted Brexit and gave away our freedoms, and subsequently vote for reform in a doubling down of the stupid, will find the next blackshirt wannabe Mosley and take us further and further down the shitpipe. If it wasn’t so tragic it would be funny. |
Steady on think of his spermal contribution to formula 1 |  |
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| Nigel's cunning plan on 19:40 - Aug 26 with 1408 views | AnotherJohn |
| Nigel's cunning plan on 18:55 - Aug 26 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Fact alert.
before Brexit, the UK participated in the EU's Dublin Regulation, which was an agreement allowing for the return of asylum seekers to the first EU country they entered. After the UK left the EU, it was no longer bound by the Dublin Regulation.
Farage did the "who's laughing now" speech in the EU Parliament. Very pleased of himself he was. |
Dublin did not work well then and still doesn't work well for member states now. Italy and Greece have both temporarily suspended inward transfers and they are two of the main first point of contact countries.
Let us remind ourselves about our own experience in the years before Brexit. The story in essence is that we had to accept more inward transfers than we could arrange outward transfers, and most of our transfer requests were declined.
Dublin Regulation (In and out)
The figures by year, and with transfers into the UK followed by transfers out of the UK to EU member states.
2015 131 510
2016 558 362
2017 461 314
2018 1215 846
2019 714 263
2020 882 105
For much of this period less than 10% of UK requests for outward transfers were accepted. For example, in 2019 263 transfers were made following 3259 transfer requests. In 2020, as by now a non-member entitled to use the process for an additional year, the UK made 8502 requests for outward transfers of which 105 returns occurred. Source AIDA Country Report UK , 2020 p. 30. | | | |
| Nigel's cunning plan on 22:20 - Aug 26 with 1308 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Nigel's cunning plan on 17:36 - Aug 26 by ItchySphincter |
Never, ever. ……. and then the loonies that voted Brexit and gave away our freedoms, and subsequently vote for reform in a doubling down of the stupid, will find the next blackshirt wannabe Mosley and take us further and further down the shitpipe. If it wasn’t so tragic it would be funny. |
A vote for brexit wasn't giving away our freedoms but a vote for Reform might well be. If he gets in and we leave the ECHR and does exactly what he says it will be a binfire the like of which hasn't been seen since Hitler. He'll be taking this country down the same mad road as Trump.
But then, there are many places that are going down that right wing road. Even places in the EU. | | | |
| Nigel's cunning plan on 23:07 - Aug 26 with 1261 views | ItchySphincter |
| Nigel's cunning plan on 19:30 - Aug 26 by KeithHaynes |
Steady on think of his spermal contribution to formula 1 |
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| Nigel's cunning plan on 07:22 - Aug 27 with 1132 views | Dr_Winston |
At the moment Nigel's cunning plan seems to be looking at whatever Rupert Lowe tweets and then nicking it for Reform policy. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Nigel's cunning plan on 08:59 - Aug 27 with 1076 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Nigel's cunning plan on 18:27 - Aug 26 by ReslovenSwan1 |
How do you explain the fact that there were no boats before Brexit.? One line put downs are a favourite on here but do not amount to much. |
I’ll explain by pointing out the fact that what you said is a lie. The boats started coming in 2018 due to a crackdown in Calais that made it harder for them to get onto Lorries, the UK left the European Union in 2020.
Please stop peddling misinformation. |  |
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| Nigel's cunning plan on 10:21 - Aug 27 with 1041 views | johnlangy |
| Nigel's cunning plan on 08:59 - Aug 27 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
I’ll explain by pointing out the fact that what you said is a lie. The boats started coming in 2018 due to a crackdown in Calais that made it harder for them to get onto Lorries, the UK left the European Union in 2020.
Please stop peddling misinformation. |
You are correct JON. There were small boat crossings before 2018.
The number of immigrants recorded as arriving in small boats was 100 in 2016. By 2020 (the Brexit transition year) it was 8,500. In 2021 (the first real Brexit year) it was 28,526.
If Res had said there were no small boat crossings before the Brexit vote he would have been essentially correct. | | | |
| Nigel's cunning plan on 11:16 - Aug 27 with 1003 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Nigel's cunning plan on 10:21 - Aug 27 by johnlangy |
You are correct JON. There were small boat crossings before 2018.
The number of immigrants recorded as arriving in small boats was 100 in 2016. By 2020 (the Brexit transition year) it was 8,500. In 2021 (the first real Brexit year) it was 28,526.
If Res had said there were no small boat crossings before the Brexit vote he would have been essentially correct. |
Correlation is not causation though. The increase in immigrants coming in boats came along with a massive decrease of people coming through the ports on trucks etc. Before the brexit vote there were as many as 85000 people coming in that way, last year it was approximately 6000. There was a massive clampdown on the Calais ports and the jungle camps were cleared, then the smugglers moved to boats. It had literally nothing to do with Brexit.
The shift to the boats have made this issue easily seen. Footage of boatloads of grinning cheering men on their iPhones is a powerful image, whereas before they would have snuck in unseen on a lorry in the middle of the night.
The numbers haven’t increased that much, just the mode of transport has changed and the visibility of the issue has increased. This is an issue that has been going on unseen for at least two decades. Even only fools and horses did an episode on it. | |
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| Nigel's cunning plan on 12:36 - Aug 27 with 938 views | ItchySphincter |
| Nigel's cunning plan on 18:25 - Aug 26 by shingle |
Drama queen alert. |
If ever anyone needed proof ...... 
Hit me up when you have the gumption and wherewithal to construct a coherent rebuttal. | |
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| Nigel's cunning plan on 12:39 - Aug 27 with 934 views | ItchySphincter |
| Nigel's cunning plan on 22:20 - Aug 26 by SullutaCreturned |
A vote for brexit wasn't giving away our freedoms but a vote for Reform might well be. If he gets in and we leave the ECHR and does exactly what he says it will be a binfire the like of which hasn't been seen since Hitler. He'll be taking this country down the same mad road as Trump.
But then, there are many places that are going down that right wing road. Even places in the EU. |
Do you think your new blue passort gives you the same, more, or less freedoms than your old red one?
Just asking .... | |
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| Nigel's cunning plan on 12:56 - Aug 27 with 915 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Nigel's cunning plan on 11:16 - Aug 27 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Correlation is not causation though. The increase in immigrants coming in boats came along with a massive decrease of people coming through the ports on trucks etc. Before the brexit vote there were as many as 85000 people coming in that way, last year it was approximately 6000. There was a massive clampdown on the Calais ports and the jungle camps were cleared, then the smugglers moved to boats. It had literally nothing to do with Brexit.
The shift to the boats have made this issue easily seen. Footage of boatloads of grinning cheering men on their iPhones is a powerful image, whereas before they would have snuck in unseen on a lorry in the middle of the night.
The numbers haven’t increased that much, just the mode of transport has changed and the visibility of the issue has increased. This is an issue that has been going on unseen for at least two decades. Even only fools and horses did an episode on it. |
I think the difference now is that the lefty loonies are saying that if you raise questions about immigration you are a raving Nazi and are going after people who dare to question their position. |  |
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| Nigel's cunning plan on 16:03 - Aug 27 with 838 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Nigel's cunning plan on 10:21 - Aug 27 by johnlangy |
You are correct JON. There were small boat crossings before 2018.
The number of immigrants recorded as arriving in small boats was 100 in 2016. By 2020 (the Brexit transition year) it was 8,500. In 2021 (the first real Brexit year) it was 28,526.
If Res had said there were no small boat crossings before the Brexit vote he would have been essentially correct. |
But he isn't essentially correct, there were small boat crossings before Brexit. Because the numbers are much different it doesn't mean they didn't happen. | | | |
| Nigel's cunning plan on 16:31 - Aug 27 with 816 views | ItchySphincter |
| Nigel's cunning plan on 16:03 - Aug 27 by SullutaCreturned |
But he isn't essentially correct, there were small boat crossings before Brexit. Because the numbers are much different it doesn't mean they didn't happen. |
Being as you’re talking about boat crossings and Brexit you do know we could have sent them straight back before, yeah? | |
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| Nigel's cunning plan on 16:48 - Aug 27 with 796 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Nigel's cunning plan on 19:30 - Aug 26 by KeithHaynes |
Steady on think of his spermal contribution to formula 1 |
Yes, but he was not that good for Glamorgan. | |
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| Nigel's cunning plan on 17:50 - Aug 27 with 755 views | johnlangy |
| Nigel's cunning plan on 11:16 - Aug 27 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Correlation is not causation though. The increase in immigrants coming in boats came along with a massive decrease of people coming through the ports on trucks etc. Before the brexit vote there were as many as 85000 people coming in that way, last year it was approximately 6000. There was a massive clampdown on the Calais ports and the jungle camps were cleared, then the smugglers moved to boats. It had literally nothing to do with Brexit.
The shift to the boats have made this issue easily seen. Footage of boatloads of grinning cheering men on their iPhones is a powerful image, whereas before they would have snuck in unseen on a lorry in the middle of the night.
The numbers haven’t increased that much, just the mode of transport has changed and the visibility of the issue has increased. This is an issue that has been going on unseen for at least two decades. Even only fools and horses did an episode on it. |
Where did you get those numbers JON ? I did a quick search and got this - 'It's impossible to give an exact number of immigrants who arrived in the UK via lorries from France before Brexit'. | | | |
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