| Open training today 16:10 - Aug 26 with 10977 views | 7374Ranger |
Did anyone else on here attend today's Open Training session?
I was there with my son and when it came to the signing & selfie session some of the players didn't stay behind, including Dunne , Morrison and Kone.
Oh, and some of the shooting in the practice matches from the likes of Kolli & Dembele were dreadful, although I was impressed with Varane's and wonder why he doesn't get forward more and shoot (perhaps that will change if Hayden plays in the deeper role and allows him to play the no.8 role). [Post edited 26 Aug 16:12]
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| Open training today on 22:15 - Aug 26 with 2674 views | sevenhoop |
| Open training today on 21:22 - Aug 26 by mart_Goblin |
Anyway , my concern for the adults in the room , is much more about Saito not even training , but said he’s fit to play .
Let’s hope he doesn’t take too long .
Big concern that he hasn’t kicked a ball since his injury at Preston |
Like all the other signings who say in the interview ‘yep, I’m fit and raring and ready to go’ and then, hmmm, turns out that they aren’t. |  | | |
| Open training today on 22:32 - Aug 26 with 2581 views | 7374Ranger |
| Open training today on 22:15 - Aug 26 by sevenhoop |
Like all the other signings who say in the interview ‘yep, I’m fit and raring and ready to go’ and then, hmmm, turns out that they aren’t. |
Yes, Kone had a pre season with Wycombe, yet has only been fit to be a sub.
Hopefully Saito, Kone and maybe RN-D, will start on Saturday. I wonder when Hayden will be fit to start. The sooner the better for me. We need a tougher midfield that will enable the attacking players to attack opponents. | | | |
| Open training today on 22:42 - Aug 26 with 2492 views | HAMRanger |
| Open training today on 22:38 - Aug 26 by connell10 |
Why dig people out mate, it's just people expressing their passion for the club . I'm getting a tad sick of the side remarks by some posters on here. [Post edited 26 Aug 22:41]
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Who did I dig out? No side remarks from me it's posted for all to see! |  | | |
| Open training today on 22:49 - Aug 26 with 2408 views | A40Bosh |
| Open training today on 22:32 - Aug 26 by 7374Ranger |
Yes, Kone had a pre season with Wycombe, yet has only been fit to be a sub.
Hopefully Saito, Kone and maybe RN-D, will start on Saturday. I wonder when Hayden will be fit to start. The sooner the better for me. We need a tougher midfield that will enable the attacking players to attack opponents. |
I think you may have misunderstood being fit and available with not yet being integrated into the 1st team squad the same week they sign. I suspect there is a need for a couple of weeks of training with new team mates on (the supposed) club game philosophy and understanding the roles and patterns of play. I don’t think it is always the case of walk in the front door don a number 9 shirt and 2 days later just start upfront and play 90mins at Watford. |  |
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| Open training today on 22:52 - Aug 26 with 2371 views | OldPedro |
Saito and Hayden will be used to some of the other players but not used to the current tactics (if we actually have any at the moment) |  |
| Extra mature cheddar......a simple cheese for a simple man |
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| Open training today on 08:00 - Aug 27 with 1891 views | gazza1 |
| Open training today on 22:49 - Aug 26 by A40Bosh |
I think you may have misunderstood being fit and available with not yet being integrated into the 1st team squad the same week they sign. I suspect there is a need for a couple of weeks of training with new team mates on (the supposed) club game philosophy and understanding the roles and patterns of play. I don’t think it is always the case of walk in the front door don a number 9 shirt and 2 days later just start upfront and play 90mins at Watford. |
It is nonsense that players like Kone are not out on the pitch if they are fit......watch on Saturday who plays from the new signings. Training & Match days are very different things.
Why, for example, Kone did not start at Coventry is wrong, you just keep his responsibilities simple if you think that it is all too much for him (but it should not be).
Do you think that none of of this weeks signing will not play against Charlton??? | | | |
| Open training today on 08:04 - Aug 27 with 1867 views | Northernr |
| Open training today on 08:00 - Aug 27 by gazza1 |
It is nonsense that players like Kone are not out on the pitch if they are fit......watch on Saturday who plays from the new signings. Training & Match days are very different things.
Why, for example, Kone did not start at Coventry is wrong, you just keep his responsibilities simple if you think that it is all too much for him (but it should not be).
Do you think that none of of this weeks signing will not play against Charlton??? |
I mean we're not privvy to the info they are, but I would have thought it would make sense to start with Kone and him go as long as he can and then use Burrell off the bench with his pace running at a more tired defence. |  | | |
| Open training today on 08:07 - Aug 27 with 1841 views | EuroRanger |
| Open training today on 08:04 - Aug 27 by Northernr |
I mean we're not privvy to the info they are, but I would have thought it would make sense to start with Kone and him go as long as he can and then use Burrell off the bench with his pace running at a more tired defence. |
I would give this 5 upvotes if I could. This should be the way we play IMO - Kone playing as a hold-up CF for 55/60 mins and then Burrell pressing against tired legs for the last half hour. | | | |
| Open training today on 08:09 - Aug 27 with 1822 views | Northernr |
| Open training today on 08:07 - Aug 27 by EuroRanger |
I would give this 5 upvotes if I could. This should be the way we play IMO - Kone playing as a hold-up CF for 55/60 mins and then Burrell pressing against tired legs for the last half hour. |
Like I say you've got to give them the benefit of the doubt that they think Kone can literally only do 20-30 mins atm, so you can't start him and bring him off before half time. Doesn't make sense otherwise. | | | |
| Open training today on 08:11 - Aug 27 with 1808 views | EuroRanger |
| Open training today on 08:09 - Aug 27 by Northernr |
Like I say you've got to give them the benefit of the doubt that they think Kone can literally only do 20-30 mins atm, so you can't start him and bring him off before half time. Doesn't make sense otherwise. |
Yeah I trust that they wouldn't be stupid enough not to start him if they thought he was ready. Wonder if he'll be fit to do at least 45 on Saturday though, as this would allow Burrell to play in a role that is more natural for him. | | | |
| Open training today on 08:12 - Aug 27 with 1801 views | gazza1 |
| Open training today on 08:09 - Aug 27 by Northernr |
Like I say you've got to give them the benefit of the doubt that they think Kone can literally only do 20-30 mins atm, so you can't start him and bring him off before half time. Doesn't make sense otherwise. |
Why would Kone only be able to do 20/30 minutes!! | | | |
| Open training today on 08:13 - Aug 27 with 1789 views | gazza1 |
| Open training today on 08:04 - Aug 27 by Northernr |
I mean we're not privvy to the info they are, but I would have thought it would make sense to start with Kone and him go as long as he can and then use Burrell off the bench with his pace running at a more tired defence. |
This but he should be OK by now for a full game......you get full fitness by playing in a proper game not pissing around on a training pitch!!! | | | |
| Open training today on 08:14 - Aug 27 with 1789 views | Northernr |
| Open training today on 08:12 - Aug 27 by gazza1 |
Why would Kone only be able to do 20/30 minutes!! |
You tell me. Why does Dembele get cramp every week?
The conditioning of our squad is a mystery to one and all at the moment. | | | |
| Open training today on 08:16 - Aug 27 with 1775 views | gazza1 |
| Open training today on 08:14 - Aug 27 by Northernr |
You tell me. Why does Dembele get cramp every week?
The conditioning of our squad is a mystery to one and all at the moment. |
it is all very strange, every match!!!......if the Club have not sent him to a specialist they need their heads tested. | | | |
| Open training today on 08:28 - Aug 27 with 1709 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| Open training today on 08:12 - Aug 27 by gazza1 |
Why would Kone only be able to do 20/30 minutes!! |
He didn't play any of Wycombes games before he signed for us, not even on the bench (just checked BBC).
He was either carrying a knock before he arrived, or more likely Wycombe didn't play him as he was being sold. I don't think they'd risk a £5m fee to play him against Leyton Orient etc.
Just not match fit. | |
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| Open training today on 08:34 - Aug 27 with 1658 views | gazza1 |
| Open training today on 08:28 - Aug 27 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
He didn't play any of Wycombes games before he signed for us, not even on the bench (just checked BBC).
He was either carrying a knock before he arrived, or more likely Wycombe didn't play him as he was being sold. I don't think they'd risk a £5m fee to play him against Leyton Orient etc.
Just not match fit. |
If we had the talent & players that Chelsea have then bring him in slowly(ish), no need to rush.....BUT we have not got that wealth of players.
Get him in the starting line up if he hasn't got any knocks to worry about. | | | |
| Open training today on 08:41 - Aug 27 with 1609 views | FDC |
| Open training today on 08:12 - Aug 27 by gazza1 |
Why would Kone only be able to do 20/30 minutes!! |
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| Open training today on 09:27 - Aug 27 with 1442 views | enfieldargh |
| Open training today on 08:16 - Aug 27 by gazza1 |
it is all very strange, every match!!!......if the Club have not sent him to a specialist they need their heads tested. |
They do need their heads tested but are waiting to see a specialist |  |
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| Open training today on 09:30 - Aug 27 with 1434 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| Open training today on 08:34 - Aug 27 by gazza1 |
If we had the talent & players that Chelsea have then bring him in slowly(ish), no need to rush.....BUT we have not got that wealth of players.
Get him in the starting line up if he hasn't got any knocks to worry about. |
That's probably why he hasn't started and has only done 20/30 minutes. We haven't got that wealth of players.
Imagine he starts straight away and gets injured. The reverse argument would then be made; why did they risk him?
I'd sooner he missed starting a couple of games than missing a couple of months. | |
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| Open training today on 09:42 - Aug 27 with 1378 views | sdm1508 |
| Open training today on 08:04 - Aug 27 by Northernr |
I mean we're not privvy to the info they are, but I would have thought it would make sense to start with Kone and him go as long as he can and then use Burrell off the bench with his pace running at a more tired defence. |
Exactly this. It's why I always thought Smyth did more damage coming off the bench. I think he has got at least two left backs sent off by terrorizing them when they are tired and can't handle him | | | |
| Open training today on 09:56 - Aug 27 with 1294 views | francisbowles |
| Open training today on 08:28 - Aug 27 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
He didn't play any of Wycombes games before he signed for us, not even on the bench (just checked BBC).
He was either carrying a knock before he arrived, or more likely Wycombe didn't play him as he was being sold. I don't think they'd risk a £5m fee to play him against Leyton Orient etc.
Just not match fit. |
He played 33 minutes against Stockport just before he signed for us. He played a bit part in pre season, half a game a couple of times and unused sub against Spurs. I read his pre season was distracted with transfer negotiations.
Putting on from the start when he has limited fitness is risky, as there is the temptation to leave him on longer than you should and the player may want and feel like he can stay on.
However, after a couple of weeks training, I think he will start on Saturday and we will get an hour, before Burrell gets on to try and stretch the game. | | | |
| Open training today on 11:09 - Aug 27 with 1119 views | JAPRANGERS |
Frey is an interesting dude. Always seems to be injured and then disappearing off the face of the known Universe….. |  | | |
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