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Charlie Austin on Under the Cosh 16:03 - Sep 9 with 7691 viewslightwaterhoop

Worth a listen.
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Charlie Austin on Under the Cosh on 10:08 - Sep 11 with 730 viewsdaveB

Charlie Austin on Under the Cosh on 09:42 - Sep 11 by ParkRoyalR


Two decent seasons engineered a move away which cost the club a lot of money,

Undermined team morale when staggered into Ellerslie Stand but summoned enough energy to get into the PV for after match pints,

I have no anger towards him other than one absolutely dire performance at Peterborough where he could barely muster a jog,

I just find it odd so many cannot see his no 1 priority is himself and mugging off gullible QPR fans came easy to him.

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Of course his priority was himself, if he was no good at football the club would have released him so footballers absolutly should look after themselves. He didn't cost the club money, he was sold for the same price we paid for him and his goals won us a £100million premier league ticket that the club not Charlie messed up

If scoring 20 goals and winning promotion followed by 18 goals in the Prem is only decent then god knows how you judge the players who replaced him.
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Charlie Austin on Under the Cosh on 10:31 - Sep 11 with 650 viewsnick_hammersmith

I feel bad re-reading some of my comments.
I thought Charlie was a great player first time around. Couldn't believe we managed to sign him and thought he was one of the most natural goal scorers we had for many years.

I loved seeing that Soccer am video of his training, I think it showed how hard he worked. As he mentioned he would play through injury, remember seeing how much strapping he used to have on his shoulder.

It never sat well with me how he left the first time. He and the club let the contract run down and Southampton got one of the best English strikers on the cheap. A similar move to Manning and others...

When he came back on loan he was great, and as everyone mentions kept us up, seemed to mentor Dykes and get a tune out of him.
Once that deal was perm he and Johanson dropped off a cliff.

I never linked this with money before, but after listening to that maybe it was?
Anyway, I'm sad he didn't like Les. I'd hoped there would be some bond there, where Les might impart wisdom into other players, especially #9's who he should understand the most. I thought that assuming he was retired was perfectly fair, but I wasn't in the room so I don't know how it was discussed.

Anyway, good luck Charlie, loved that little interview with Kone. Its a shame that you didn't get the same from Les, who also had a similar journey and could have given a younger Charlie similar advice.

Les also played a season too many (didn't he finish at Bolton?) ;D
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Charlie Austin on Under the Cosh on 13:26 - Sep 11 with 490 viewsgolborne

Charlie Austin on Under the Cosh on 22:44 - Sep 9 by daveB

Yeah that loan spell Austin played a major role in turning things around for us, he was excellent. We'd have comfortably gone down without him signing imo

He was poor by his standards the following season but still scored goals for us


+ switching to a back 3 from Norwich onwards in the last game of the calendar year. i thought he was toast after the Cardiff game, but rightly lost his faith in Barbet being good enough to play in two (you can stick your bandage..for anybody who doesn't want to hear it). Drew, but should have won at high flying Norwich and never looked back with Barbet looking good in a 3 - there you go for balance!
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Charlie Austin on Under the Cosh on 14:44 - Sep 11 with 376 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

Stefan Moore this week...

Would like to hear his side of the story re being announced too early.
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Charlie Austin on Under the Cosh on 15:08 - Sep 11 with 327 viewsBAWHoops

Absolute hero.

Came in to score goals to take us up and promptly did it.
Played with half a shoulder in the play offs and scored the goals to take us to Wembley.
Unbelievable in the Prem. Got an England call up lest we forget.

He came back at a dark time for the club. We had sold Eze and were resting the whole thing working on a young Ilias Chair, an emerging Chris Willock, Lyndon Dykes and McAulley Bonne. We were awful that first half of lockdown.
His return started the best form this club has seen for a decade. His first game away at Luton he came in, scored and we won. Was perfect

When he re-signed what should've happened was he was used as a sub to bring on and lift the crowd whilst he mentored and helped others. However we had a ridiculous summer, sold nobody, bought everybody and decided we were going up so he wasn't managed properly. By January it was done really (remember him sitting in the stands after he was subbed in the cup v Rotherham).
A bad 6 months shouldn't cloud the fact he took us up, tried as best he could to keep us up and then returned to keep us up in the division below.

13/14 - 34 games 19 goals
14/15 - 35 games 18 goals
15/16 - 16 games 9 goals
20/21 - 21 games 7 goals
21/22 - 38 games 7 goals

That's some record

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Charlie Austin on Under the Cosh on 16:46 - Sep 11 with 208 viewsdaveB

Charlie Austin on Under the Cosh on 15:08 - Sep 11 by BAWHoops

Absolute hero.

Came in to score goals to take us up and promptly did it.
Played with half a shoulder in the play offs and scored the goals to take us to Wembley.
Unbelievable in the Prem. Got an England call up lest we forget.

He came back at a dark time for the club. We had sold Eze and were resting the whole thing working on a young Ilias Chair, an emerging Chris Willock, Lyndon Dykes and McAulley Bonne. We were awful that first half of lockdown.
His return started the best form this club has seen for a decade. His first game away at Luton he came in, scored and we won. Was perfect

When he re-signed what should've happened was he was used as a sub to bring on and lift the crowd whilst he mentored and helped others. However we had a ridiculous summer, sold nobody, bought everybody and decided we were going up so he wasn't managed properly. By January it was done really (remember him sitting in the stands after he was subbed in the cup v Rotherham).
A bad 6 months shouldn't cloud the fact he took us up, tried as best he could to keep us up and then returned to keep us up in the division below.

13/14 - 34 games 19 goals
14/15 - 35 games 18 goals
15/16 - 16 games 9 goals
20/21 - 21 games 7 goals
21/22 - 38 games 7 goals

That's some record


23rd on the all time list of goalscorers for the club

4th highest number of goals in the Championship/Division Two, 42 in 105 games behind Addinall (49) Clive Allen (54) and Rodney Marsh (64)
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Charlie Austin on Under the Cosh on 17:52 - Sep 11 with 127 views7374Ranger

Charlie Austin on Under the Cosh on 00:17 - Sep 10 by numptydumpty

The loan spell went well.

But after that he coasted big time.

Was overweight and unfit. Secured his big last payday and sadly switched from an excellent professional to a man that gave up on his career noticeably.

Few comments in there, where he really took umbrage with several managers in his career. And playing more for the team, when there were bonusses on offer in that spell too, suggested he had changed from the young lad who was so keen to do well, to the old pro who did the bare minimum and if anyone dared to criticise him, he sulked and went off the rails a bit and hit the booze.

Sad end to his career....

And tbh the comment from Les about him retiring, was perfectly just. He clearly lost his mojo for the game. Came across as a prickly character in this interview and did say if he struggled in the game, would start hitting the alcohol a lot, which clearly was happening in the second season of his return.

Think gets a lot of kindness and leniency over much because his two seasons in his first spell were outstanding.

A shame for me.

As we seen with many, sometimes never go back.


They say never meet your heroes and sadly this particular pod for me, Charlie doesn't come across as the legend he originally was.
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I disagree about Austin coasting and being unfit after the loan spell. I don't think a lot changed during that pre season to make him unfit and certainly his early appearances in that season he looked very similar in size and fitness and he did during the loan spell. You have clearly ignored my comments about the difference in the team selection and formation that formed the good spell Austin and Dykes had developed.

Warburton was at fault with the above and yes, Austin's attitude may have changed as a result of often being stuck on the bench and playing as a lone striker in a formation that never suited him.
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Charlie Austin on Under the Cosh on 17:56 - Sep 11 with 112 viewsBrianMcCarthy

Charlie Austin on Under the Cosh on 10:31 - Sep 11 by nick_hammersmith

I feel bad re-reading some of my comments.
I thought Charlie was a great player first time around. Couldn't believe we managed to sign him and thought he was one of the most natural goal scorers we had for many years.

I loved seeing that Soccer am video of his training, I think it showed how hard he worked. As he mentioned he would play through injury, remember seeing how much strapping he used to have on his shoulder.

It never sat well with me how he left the first time. He and the club let the contract run down and Southampton got one of the best English strikers on the cheap. A similar move to Manning and others...

When he came back on loan he was great, and as everyone mentions kept us up, seemed to mentor Dykes and get a tune out of him.
Once that deal was perm he and Johanson dropped off a cliff.

I never linked this with money before, but after listening to that maybe it was?
Anyway, I'm sad he didn't like Les. I'd hoped there would be some bond there, where Les might impart wisdom into other players, especially #9's who he should understand the most. I thought that assuming he was retired was perfectly fair, but I wasn't in the room so I don't know how it was discussed.

Anyway, good luck Charlie, loved that little interview with Kone. Its a shame that you didn't get the same from Les, who also had a similar journey and could have given a younger Charlie similar advice.

Les also played a season too many (didn't he finish at Bolton?) ;D


"Anyway, good luck Charlie, loved that little interview with Kone. Its a shame that you didn't get the same from Les, who also had a similar journey and could have given a younger Charlie similar advice."

We have to be careful about this, Nick.

This is what Austin says. We have no way of knowing for sure.

But, and I mean this as a general comment, one person saying something on a podcast does not make it a fact. Austin may well have misremembered, misinterpreted, misunderstood, or just made it up.

For his part, Ferdinand may say that he did offer advice, that he did try and help, that he could not reach Austin, that he did not want to over-step the manager etc etc.

Or he may just say that dirty linen should not be washed in public.

But, as far as I know, he has not spoken about this in public.

We have absolutely no way of knowing.

"The opposite of love, after all, is not hate, but indifference."
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Charlie Austin on Under the Cosh on 18:26 - Sep 11 with 19 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

Charlie Austin on Under the Cosh on 17:56 - Sep 11 by BrianMcCarthy

"Anyway, good luck Charlie, loved that little interview with Kone. Its a shame that you didn't get the same from Les, who also had a similar journey and could have given a younger Charlie similar advice."

We have to be careful about this, Nick.

This is what Austin says. We have no way of knowing for sure.

But, and I mean this as a general comment, one person saying something on a podcast does not make it a fact. Austin may well have misremembered, misinterpreted, misunderstood, or just made it up.

For his part, Ferdinand may say that he did offer advice, that he did try and help, that he could not reach Austin, that he did not want to over-step the manager etc etc.

Or he may just say that dirty linen should not be washed in public.

But, as far as I know, he has not spoken about this in public.

We have absolutely no way of knowing.


It’s well established that Ferdinand helped strikers.

Matt Smith on the very same podcast said so. Austin himself in the last podcast admitted he was a difficult character and forced a move and played up under Hasselbaink.

Maybe that’s why it might not have worked with Les.
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