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For the second day running planned return flights for a small number of illegal immigrants did not go ahead after applications to the High Court. A lawyer acting for an Eritrean man argued that he would face "a real risk of destitution" if sent back to France.
According to other media reports several migrants detained with a view to return under the scheme were released from custody after the Home Office received lawyers' letters.
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"One-in, one-out" scheme struggling on 19:12 - Sep 16 with 1370 views
Those believing asylum seekers should not have nothing less than total support clearly right wing extreme fascists They probably vote Reform or Tory and song GSTK Basssstards aren’t they
Just one to France is one more than the Tories managed.
Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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"One-in, one-out" scheme struggling on 19:56 - Sep 16 with 1310 views
"One-in, one-out" scheme struggling on 19:56 - Sep 16 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth
There was a great quote about Starmer following the cab rank rule when taking cases “his cab was permanently parked outside Finsbury Park mosque”.
Here's someone explaining how he took on pro bono cases outside of the usual case allocation process. I'm sure Starmer would have sued this bloke if there was anything untoward here.
"One-in, one-out" scheme struggling on 19:19 - Sep 16 by Flashberryjack
is this the final kick up the ar*e needed for us to leave the ECHR.
Appologies down arrowed in error.
The HRA was a decent piece of legislation, but our adversarial criminal justice system has totally twisted and undermined what it was intended it. The HRA enshrines the right to a fair trial.. nothing wrong with that or many of the other Articles.
It needs a radical revamp, the basic concepts such as Article 2,3,4 , 6,7,9,10,11, should in my opinion be absolute.
Articles 5, 8 and 12 should be qualified rights, - if you aren’t here legally you shouldn’t be able to rely on the right to liberty, a private or family life. Under certain circumstances I’d also remove the right to marry. Bring in those changes and we may be able to get something we can work with. There’s in no way a foreign national sex offender (or one of their family) should be able to argue that their rights under Article 8 are being breached etc when we’re taking steps to deport them because their presence isn’t conducive to the public good. If someone breaks the law, they should be expected to to be deported - end of.
The articles are as below
Article 2: Right to Life, Article 3: Freedom from torture and inhuman or degrading treatment Article 4: Freedom from slavery and forced labour Article 5: Right to liberty and security Article 6: Right to a fair trial Article 7: No punishment without law Article 8: Respect for your private and family life, home and correspondence Article 9: Freedom of thought, belief and religion Article 10: Freedom of expression Article 11: Freedom of assembly and association Article 12: Right to marry and start a family Article 14: Protection from discrimination in respect of these rights and freedoms Protocol 1, Article 1: Right to peaceful enjoyment of your property Protocol 1, Article 2: Right to education Protocol 1, Article 3: Right to participate in free elections Protocol 13, Article 1: Abolition of the death penalty
The problem is most people have heard of the HRA, but they don’t actually know anything about it and they just read the guff in the Daily Express.
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"One-in, one-out" scheme struggling on 21:13 - Sep 16 with 1155 views
We have a Government, Civil Service and judiciary run for the benefit of human rights lawyers. It's been that way since Blair took over and his wife coined a fortune in the field.
Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.
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"One-in, one-out" scheme struggling on 21:18 - Sep 16 with 1131 views
"One-in, one-out" scheme struggling on 21:13 - Sep 16 by Dr_Winston
We have a Government, Civil Service and judiciary run for the benefit of human rights lawyers. It's been that way since Blair took over and his wife coined a fortune in the field.
If Blair was scrutinised like politicians are today he wouldn't have lasted 12 months. Property dealings in Bristol is a good place to start.
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"One-in, one-out" scheme struggling on 21:38 - Sep 16 with 1088 views
"One-in, one-out" scheme struggling on 21:38 - Sep 16 by Demitrius
Lord Hermer's list of past clients is even worse...
I’ve done a few Judge escorts Many of them are actually quite nice as people They live rather well and life a life apart from those who appear before them
I'd also suggest that many NGO's and "charities" (many of which receive public money) could also probably stand to be either shut down or stripped of funding.
Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.
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"One-in, one-out" scheme struggling on 23:06 - Sep 16 with 962 views
"One-in, one-out" scheme struggling on 21:08 - Sep 16 by majorraglan
The HRA was a decent piece of legislation, but our adversarial criminal justice system has totally twisted and undermined what it was intended it. The HRA enshrines the right to a fair trial.. nothing wrong with that or many of the other Articles.
It needs a radical revamp, the basic concepts such as Article 2,3,4 , 6,7,9,10,11, should in my opinion be absolute.
Articles 5, 8 and 12 should be qualified rights, - if you aren’t here legally you shouldn’t be able to rely on the right to liberty, a private or family life. Under certain circumstances I’d also remove the right to marry. Bring in those changes and we may be able to get something we can work with. There’s in no way a foreign national sex offender (or one of their family) should be able to argue that their rights under Article 8 are being breached etc when we’re taking steps to deport them because their presence isn’t conducive to the public good. If someone breaks the law, they should be expected to to be deported - end of.
The articles are as below
Article 2: Right to Life, Article 3: Freedom from torture and inhuman or degrading treatment Article 4: Freedom from slavery and forced labour Article 5: Right to liberty and security Article 6: Right to a fair trial Article 7: No punishment without law Article 8: Respect for your private and family life, home and correspondence Article 9: Freedom of thought, belief and religion Article 10: Freedom of expression Article 11: Freedom of assembly and association Article 12: Right to marry and start a family Article 14: Protection from discrimination in respect of these rights and freedoms Protocol 1, Article 1: Right to peaceful enjoyment of your property Protocol 1, Article 2: Right to education Protocol 1, Article 3: Right to participate in free elections Protocol 13, Article 1: Abolition of the death penalty
The problem is most people have heard of the HRA, but they don’t actually know anything about it and they just read the guff in the Daily Express.
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We had the right to a fair trial long before the human rights act of 1998. Magna Carta obviously failed but the intent was there as early as the early 13th century.
So let's keep him here fed and watered with a roof over his head, whilst these highly paid lawyers fight their battles, this is gonna be a titanic battle to remove the majority of these people back out of the country, whilst the cost of it all is paid by the taxpayer and the boats are still landing Marvellous.
Seems like the first illegal immigrant has has his case adjourned by the High Court . No surprise there , we need more time to take into this illegals background .
BBC reporting and Court documents suggest he travelled from North Africa , had a chance to seek asylum in France , but too many homeless there so he thought the UK is the better place to be , we will take you in as we are a soft touch thes days .
Other reporting suggests 2 Air France planes have taken off lately with no passengers .
You could not make it up .
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"One-in, one-out" scheme struggling on 06:07 - Sep 17 with 733 views
"One-in, one-out" scheme struggling on 01:02 - Sep 17 by Robbie
Seems like the first illegal immigrant has has his case adjourned by the High Court . No surprise there , we need more time to take into this illegals background .
BBC reporting and Court documents suggest he travelled from North Africa , had a chance to seek asylum in France , but too many homeless there so he thought the UK is the better place to be , we will take you in as we are a soft touch thes days .
Other reporting suggests 2 Air France planes have taken off lately with no passengers .
You could not make it up .
It looks as though the 14 days granted by this judge for the migrant to provide more information opens a path for lawyers in other cases to trot out the same argument, and means that there won't be any returns in the coming days.
All this seems so predictable. One wonders if the Government thought they had some strategy to circumvent these legal challenges. I suspect that there will be an attempt to identify some easy cases, for example involving migrants with a record of past deportation and subsequent re-entry to the UK, and will then seek to trumpet the success of a scheme that can only ever return a small number of illegal immigrants.
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"One-in, one-out" scheme struggling on 06:25 - Sep 17 with 716 views
"One-in, one-out" scheme struggling on 23:39 - Sep 16 by max936
So let's keep him here fed and watered with a roof over his head, whilst these highly paid lawyers fight their battles, this is gonna be a titanic battle to remove the majority of these people back out of the country, whilst the cost of it all is paid by the taxpayer and the boats are still landing Marvellous.
"One-in, one-out" scheme struggling on 21:08 - Sep 16 by majorraglan
The HRA was a decent piece of legislation, but our adversarial criminal justice system has totally twisted and undermined what it was intended it. The HRA enshrines the right to a fair trial.. nothing wrong with that or many of the other Articles.
It needs a radical revamp, the basic concepts such as Article 2,3,4 , 6,7,9,10,11, should in my opinion be absolute.
Articles 5, 8 and 12 should be qualified rights, - if you aren’t here legally you shouldn’t be able to rely on the right to liberty, a private or family life. Under certain circumstances I’d also remove the right to marry. Bring in those changes and we may be able to get something we can work with. There’s in no way a foreign national sex offender (or one of their family) should be able to argue that their rights under Article 8 are being breached etc when we’re taking steps to deport them because their presence isn’t conducive to the public good. If someone breaks the law, they should be expected to to be deported - end of.
The articles are as below
Article 2: Right to Life, Article 3: Freedom from torture and inhuman or degrading treatment Article 4: Freedom from slavery and forced labour Article 5: Right to liberty and security Article 6: Right to a fair trial Article 7: No punishment without law Article 8: Respect for your private and family life, home and correspondence Article 9: Freedom of thought, belief and religion Article 10: Freedom of expression Article 11: Freedom of assembly and association Article 12: Right to marry and start a family Article 14: Protection from discrimination in respect of these rights and freedoms Protocol 1, Article 1: Right to peaceful enjoyment of your property Protocol 1, Article 2: Right to education Protocol 1, Article 3: Right to participate in free elections Protocol 13, Article 1: Abolition of the death penalty
The problem is most people have heard of the HRA, but they don’t actually know anything about it and they just read the guff in the Daily Express.
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It's also worth noting that leaving the EHCR might not be the silver bullet some think it is.
So far it's 0.73 per cent proportion of foreign national offenders who have successfully appealed against deportation from the UK on human rights grounds and only on 3 occasions has the ECHR has ruled against the UK in cases relating to immigration rules
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"One-in, one-out" scheme struggling on 08:58 - Sep 17 with 608 views
"One-in, one-out" scheme struggling on 23:39 - Sep 16 by max936
So let's keep him here fed and watered with a roof over his head, whilst these highly paid lawyers fight their battles, this is gonna be a titanic battle to remove the majority of these people back out of the country, whilst the cost of it all is paid by the taxpayer and the boats are still landing Marvellous.
The lawyers can only act on what the law says. But the government is unwilling to change the law. So we are at an impasse until either the political will of the government changes or the government changes.
"One-in, one-out" scheme struggling on 08:58 - Sep 17 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth
The lawyers can only act on what the law says. But the government is unwilling to change the law. So we are at an impasse until either the political will of the government changes or the government changes.
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