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Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 14:36 - Sep 20 with 2885 viewsunion_jack

Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 14:30 - Sep 20 by swan65split

Didnt deserve that, theyve lulled us to sleep.


Yes we did. We switched off. The reason for that maybe tiredness after Wednesday but we gave them too many opportunities to score. They had to take one.

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Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 14:36 - Sep 20 with 2853 viewsswan65split

Brum arent that good, we lost that one due to a bad linesman , and probably a Wed. game
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Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 14:37 - Sep 20 with 2797 viewsonehunglow

We have a strong squad
Today was the chance to utilise
Stamevic first game back and he plays the full game
Yet again our full backs shows how dire they are
Quite how Key gets away with it beats me
Crosses come on at will
I d have thought Sheehan had learned
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Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 14:39 - Sep 20 with 2781 viewsLuther27

Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 14:36 - Sep 20 by union_jack

Yes we did. We switched off. The reason for that maybe tiredness after Wednesday but we gave them too many opportunities to score. They had to take one.


Awful game lacking quality in crap conditions.
Move on to next week.
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Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 14:40 - Sep 20 with 2751 viewsLandore_Jack

Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 14:36 - Sep 20 by swan65split

Brum arent that good, we lost that one due to a bad linesman , and probably a Wed. game


Free header in the 94th min. Unforgivable. The subs killed us again. It was park the bus time after 70 mins. We never look3d like scoring in the second half.

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Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 14:47 - Sep 20 with 2630 viewsRichardO

Didn't get the rub of the green with that offside decision but we didn't get things to stick up top understandable really as lots of high balls up the park, got to get ball into space on the floor out wide in behind defenders instead of getting stuck in the congestion in the middle caused by Birmingham . Think sometimes we need to put the two up top as wingers out wide and a centreforward get isolated.
Pushed back without enough experience to turn the game back in our favour. Hard fought game but Birmingham worth the win in the end.
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Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 14:59 - Sep 20 with 2489 viewsWhiterockin

Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 14:47 - Sep 20 by RichardO

Didn't get the rub of the green with that offside decision but we didn't get things to stick up top understandable really as lots of high balls up the park, got to get ball into space on the floor out wide in behind defenders instead of getting stuck in the congestion in the middle caused by Birmingham . Think sometimes we need to put the two up top as wingers out wide and a centreforward get isolated.
Pushed back without enough experience to turn the game back in our favour. Hard fought game but Birmingham worth the win in the end.


Two games in a short period of time killed us together with not using substitutions early enough.
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Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 15:04 - Sep 20 with 2407 viewsonehunglow

Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 14:59 - Sep 20 by Whiterockin

Two games in a short period of time killed us together with not using substitutions early enough.


Both Key and Tymon reveal links exposed time after time
Brum basically ale house brawlers and nothing special
Great chance to get fans enthused again ruined by Sheehan
Meh

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Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 15:07 - Sep 20 with 2418 viewswwcigne

Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 14:26 - Sep 20 by union_jack

We’ve been asking for that.


Very frustrating
A very poor Second half,We gave Birmingham too much space out wide to put the ball in the box ,this seems to be a pattern,when are we going to learn to mark properly,the amount of crosses they put in late on you felt they were going to nick it , we can’t keep doing it but we do !!
The Lino got it wrong for our disallowed goal
Ben lost Dykes for the goal and you could see he was furious with himself
Yalcouye should have come on earlier for Franco and Benson for Ronald and Vipotnik should have stayed on
We tired late on gave the ball away cheaply and Brum attacked us at will through the middle and out wide and we didn’t seem to be able to stop them
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Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 15:11 - Sep 20 with 2386 viewsWhiterockin

Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 15:07 - Sep 20 by wwcigne

Very frustrating
A very poor Second half,We gave Birmingham too much space out wide to put the ball in the box ,this seems to be a pattern,when are we going to learn to mark properly,the amount of crosses they put in late on you felt they were going to nick it , we can’t keep doing it but we do !!
The Lino got it wrong for our disallowed goal
Ben lost Dykes for the goal and you could see he was furious with himself
Yalcouye should have come on earlier for Franco and Benson for Ronald and Vipotnik should have stayed on
We tired late on gave the ball away cheaply and Brum attacked us at will through the middle and out wide and we didn’t seem to be able to stop them


Exactly, tiredness killed us and substitutions to late.
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Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 15:15 - Sep 20 with 2362 viewsRichardO

Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 14:59 - Sep 20 by Whiterockin

Two games in a short period of time killed us together with not using substitutions early enough.


Did mention on another thread about expecting substitutions at half time. Lots of what ifs in football in a tight game manager is dammed if he makes the changes which affect the game in the wrong way, needed the changes earlier because of the tight game scheduling and also things like Tymon's booking should have been considered along with the work he puts in, Samuel- Smith looks handy enough if a defence is struggling then sometimes you have to bolster it. We started to struggle.
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Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 15:20 - Sep 20 with 2311 viewswwcigne

Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 15:15 - Sep 20 by RichardO

Did mention on another thread about expecting substitutions at half time. Lots of what ifs in football in a tight game manager is dammed if he makes the changes which affect the game in the wrong way, needed the changes earlier because of the tight game scheduling and also things like Tymon's booking should have been considered along with the work he puts in, Samuel- Smith looks handy enough if a defence is struggling then sometimes you have to bolster it. We started to struggle.
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Second half,Birmingham marked our midfield and wide men tighter and stopped us using the width and getting the ball in to the box , we on the other hand gave them more space in midfield and out wide and it cost us ….again
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Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 15:25 - Sep 20 with 2274 viewsWhiterockin

Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 15:15 - Sep 20 by RichardO

Did mention on another thread about expecting substitutions at half time. Lots of what ifs in football in a tight game manager is dammed if he makes the changes which affect the game in the wrong way, needed the changes earlier because of the tight game scheduling and also things like Tymon's booking should have been considered along with the work he puts in, Samuel- Smith looks handy enough if a defence is struggling then sometimes you have to bolster it. We started to struggle.
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First two substitutions after 74 minutes, next on 89th minutes, last two substitutions on 97th minute. Makes no sense after such a short turnaround in matches. That's two league matches in a row Sheehan has got it wrong in my opinion. Granted he got it right on Wednesday, but we had nothing to lose then because we were behind. We have a lot of quality now its up to Sheehan to utilise them properly or I'm sure the owners will be asking questions.
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Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 15:33 - Sep 20 with 2210 viewsTreforys_Jack

Idah not making much of an impression in the limited mins he's had so far.
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Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 15:33 - Sep 20 with 2210 viewsTenbySwan

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Replay of Vip 'goal'
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Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 16:01 - Sep 20 with 2025 viewsDr_Winston

Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 14:37 - Sep 20 by onehunglow

We have a strong squad
Today was the chance to utilise
Stamevic first game back and he plays the full game
Yet again our full backs shows how dire they are
Quite how Key gets away with it beats me
Crosses come on at will
I d have thought Sheehan had learned
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Why are you blaming Key when the cross came from Tymon's side?

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 16:05 - Sep 20 with 1987 viewsDr_Winston

A game management issue lets us down for the second league game in a row.

It's far from a trait unique to Sheehan, we've been here many times with managers over the years, even back to Brendan, but I cannot fathom why we try to see games out instead doing the opposite and going on the offensive. We had plenty of bench options and could have been making changes from 60-65 minutes in but waited too long. The momentum shifted and then we were struggling.

Yalcouye should have been on a lot sooner. Arguably so should have been Benson and maybe even Widell (who must be wondering why he bothered coming here). There's nothing to lose by being bold when being timid costs you points anyway.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 16:07 - Sep 20 with 1979 viewsWhiterockin

Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 16:01 - Sep 20 by Dr_Winston

Why are you blaming Key when the cross came from Tymon's side?


Some are so strong in their like or dislike of players they can't watch a match objectively.
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Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 16:19 - Sep 20 with 1915 viewsonehunglow

Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 16:07 - Sep 20 by Whiterockin

Some are so strong in their like or dislike of players they can't watch a match objectively.


Rather like some posters who when seeing a,username they don’t like, jump in with hate speech the first priority
Seems you have joined up with Winston again
Why not discuss

Key gives space away , is often in the wrong position and is not a good tackler at all
Now if you disagree say so but no need to come up with snide shite
I honestly thought you better
People always disappoint though

Twenty years of this


Both our full backs are weak

It’s why crosses kill us


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Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 16:21 - Sep 20 with 1908 viewsKeithHaynes

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Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 16:23 - Sep 20 with 1888 viewsonehunglow

A chance to build momentum chucked away
IMO

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Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 16:25 - Sep 20 with 1877 viewsDr_Winston

Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 16:19 - Sep 20 by onehunglow

Rather like some posters who when seeing a,username they don’t like, jump in with hate speech the first priority
Seems you have joined up with Winston again
Why not discuss

Key gives space away , is often in the wrong position and is not a good tackler at all
Now if you disagree say so but no need to come up with snide shite
I honestly thought you better
People always disappoint though

Twenty years of this


Both our full backs are weak

It’s why crosses kill us


Now if you think that is not the case then fine but Dave this site from such crap

Thanks


It's a simple question.

Why are you blaming Key for not stopping a cross when he was on the other side of the pitch?

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 16:31 - Sep 20 with 1858 viewsRichardO

Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 15:20 - Sep 20 by wwcigne

Second half,Birmingham marked our midfield and wide men tighter and stopped us using the width and getting the ball in to the box , we on the other hand gave them more space in midfield and out wide and it cost us ….again


Lots of teams have marked our wingers tighter and filled the midfield, we really need to be looking at the forward balls to feet but insist on two yard passes in the middle of the pitch which if an opposition team commits to smothering seems quite easy to stifle. Nice incisive passing to players on the move and backed up with fluid support to find the spaces left by opposition's tight marking..
Think our confidence dropped as the tiredness set in.
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Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 16:37 - Sep 20 with 1819 viewsonehunglow

Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 16:25 - Sep 20 by Dr_Winston

It's a simple question.

Why are you blaming Key for not stopping a cross when he was on the other side of the pitch?


Simple answer
My comments did not apertson to the goal
Read again and you will note I slag off Tymon who simply afforded space for a cross
Watch Key though and ask yourself how he appears to an opposition winger

Simple really

Some will feel quicker down today

Still, a better riposte from you

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Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 16:38 - Sep 20 with 1823 viewswwcigne

Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 16:05 - Sep 20 by Dr_Winston

A game management issue lets us down for the second league game in a row.

It's far from a trait unique to Sheehan, we've been here many times with managers over the years, even back to Brendan, but I cannot fathom why we try to see games out instead doing the opposite and going on the offensive. We had plenty of bench options and could have been making changes from 60-65 minutes in but waited too long. The momentum shifted and then we were struggling.

Yalcouye should have been on a lot sooner. Arguably so should have been Benson and maybe even Widell (who must be wondering why he bothered coming here). There's nothing to lose by being bold when being timid costs you points anyway.


You’re correct, if we’d made Brum defend the pressure wouldn’t have been in our box as much
As I posted earlier we have to stop giving wide men so much space to get the ball and attack us , a lot of the teams in this division have good pacey wingers and it will be a long painful season if we don’t learn to mark and defend wide areas better ,both our fullbacks are good going forward but not the best defenders and need their wingers to help them more but this is definitely is something that can be rectified on the training ground
As regards substitutions ,Sheehan needs to learn he must make them sooner if needed ,this thing about waiting until the hour mark is crap ,if change is needed sooner just do it , our bench is much stronger now with more quality than we’ve had for many years so there isn’t really an excuse he just needs to be more decisive
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