| Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 16:51 - Sep 20 with 3091 views | onehunglow |
| Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 16:38 - Sep 20 by wwcigne |
You’re correct, if we’d made Brum defend the pressure wouldn’t have been in our box as much
As I posted earlier we have to stop giving wide men so much space to get the ball and attack us , a lot of the teams in this division have good pacey wingers and it will be a long painful season if we don’t learn to mark and defend wide areas better ,both our fullbacks are good going forward but not the best defenders and need their wingers to help them more but this is definitely is something that can be rectified on the training ground
As regards substitutions ,Sheehan needs to learn he must make them sooner if needed ,this thing about waiting until the hour mark is crap ,if change is needed sooner just do it , our bench is much stronger now with more quality than we’ve had for many years so there isn’t really an excuse he just needs to be more decisive |
Wide men playing against us are afforded all the space they need
Can’t see why we allow this all the time
Brum are not that good and will be nowhere near play off positions come May
We learn or should do |  |
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| Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 17:36 - Sep 20 with 2932 views | wwcigne |
| Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 15:25 - Sep 20 by Whiterockin |
First two substitutions after 74 minutes, next on 89th minutes, last two substitutions on 97th minute. Makes no sense after such a short turnaround in matches. That's two league matches in a row Sheehan has got it wrong in my opinion. Granted he got it right on Wednesday, but we had nothing to lose then because we were behind. We have a lot of quality now its up to Sheehan to utilise them properly or I'm sure the owners will be asking questions. |
Sheehan was outwitted today and not for the first time by the opposing manager ,who showed a better tactical ability and awareness
He has to take the blame for today and improve his decision making | | | |
| Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 17:48 - Sep 20 with 2877 views | swan65split |
Swansea..........offside
Man utd...........onside. |  | | |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 18:00 - Sep 20 with 2842 views | union_jack |
| Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 17:48 - Sep 20 by swan65split |
Swansea..........offside
Man utd...........onside. |
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 18:00 - Sep 20 with 2842 views | union_jack |
| Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 17:48 - Sep 20 by swan65split |
Swansea..........offside
Man utd...........onside. |
Well, they say things even themselves out. Not quite the way we had in mind though😏😁 [Post edited 20 Sep 18:13]
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| Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 18:45 - Sep 20 with 2707 views | onehunglow |
| Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 17:36 - Sep 20 by wwcigne |
Sheehan was outwitted today and not for the first time by the opposing manager ,who showed a better tactical ability and awareness
He has to take the blame for today and improve his decision making |
He has much to learn
Hope he does | |
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| Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 19:33 - Sep 20 with 2600 views | Fireboy2 |
| Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 18:45 - Sep 20 by onehunglow |
He has much to learn
Hope he does |
Wtf do you post more when we lose than when we win, because you do, simple and honest question. |  | | |
| Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 19:39 - Sep 20 with 2565 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 16:51 - Sep 20 by onehunglow |
Wide men playing against us are afforded all the space they need
Can’t see why we allow this all the time
Brum are not that good and will be nowhere near play off positions come May
We learn or should do |
My reflection on today is that we had issues playing out from the back and a bit more patience was needed at times, we have players who are skilled at turning and picking passes in midfield but we did not maximise that advantage. |  |
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| Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 19:45 - Sep 20 with 2520 views | onehunglow |
| Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 19:33 - Sep 20 by Fireboy2 |
Wtf do you post more when we lose than when we win, because you do, simple and honest question. |
As it’s you Ed , it goes like this
Weds was great
Sheehan called it right
We praised him and the night was sweet
Today was a ketcfuen and then that happens people react
It’s like when you’re happy , you are at peace and calm and sanguine
When you see suchbpisss poor defending , it makes one less happy
Now ,SOME , wooden jo way admit this on this forum as that would attract poisonous personal comments
With me so far ? Good
Key and Tymon are weak links and we have cover for both
Today was a day to see us consolidate Weds and we didn’t and that’s why folk comment
Now , if you’re counting my posts then you have issues and I do hope you’re well because you don’t seem so , but this is only a forum
I’ve invited you to lunch three times
If you’d rather bbq your bolloks then fine so shove me on ignore
Serious question
Why do you never post on non football matters
Are you capable of exchanging views that contrast with yours
I doubt it but you should
Be safe and lucky and don’t walk under any ladders
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| Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 19:48 - Sep 20 with 2504 views | onehunglow |
| Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 19:39 - Sep 20 by JACKMANANDBOY |
My reflection on today is that we had issues playing out from the back and a bit more patience was needed at times, we have players who are skilled at turning and picking passes in midfield but we did not maximise that advantage. |
My reflection is we still play Russy ball
Several times today , we made problems for ourselves against a shyte side
Sheehan puzzles me
He certainly didn’t sound angry after today and he should be
This club means a lot to many people and giving games away hurt
Denying that on forums is just people being “ positive” which is of course a trite phrase | |
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| Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 19:51 - Sep 20 with 2504 views | vetchonian |
| Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 17:36 - Sep 20 by wwcigne |
Sheehan was outwitted today and not for the first time by the opposing manager ,who showed a better tactical ability and awareness
He has to take the blame for today and improve his decision making |
thats two league games in a row now.
Ive never been convinced about Sheehan. Yes he bailed us out twice but Im not sure he is the right choice as our no1.
He is a likeable guy and no apparent ego unlike one of his predecessors and Im sure he was a players facourite which may not always be a good thing.
I know its still early days but this is the second league game in succession where his management has coar us in fact the same could be said of the Watford game. It was obvious in the Watford game we were getting out muscledans we needed Vip and Stamenic on at half time yet Sheehan delayed but we looked different gravy when the change was made. His subs and tactics of sitting back and holding on to the lead laat week and draw today blown up in his face.
We have had two wins against both Sheffield sides ....who are struggling and sides score goals agaimst them for fun..apart from us.
We have a much better sqaud than last season so we shoukd be looking for a better finish than last season.
11th last season 10th tonight.
Yes we did well Wednesday but we were chasimg rhe game so nothing to lose...unlike last Saturday when we sat defending the lead from 80 mims or today when we were settling for the draw.
Is Sheehan learning? I really hope he does.
This is the best squad we have had for a long while...many have written about it needing time to gel nut to gel it needs proper management.
I want him to succeed but I do wonder if Sheezy is capable....I hope he proves me wrong | |
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| Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 20:00 - Sep 20 with 2472 views | SkewenMitch |
Today was a poor match as a spectacle. Poor Ref how many bookings did he dish out? Birmingham were disruptive to say the least Players going down and trainers coming on constantly to disrupt our rhythm/ First game I can remember seeing with 10 mins extra time because the home team were wasting time.
Bad day at the office never mind bring on Millwall.
one last thing the four young lads standing to my lefy who proceeded to smash the seats in the row in front of us. I actually told them to F**King Grow up, Reeking of booze . Embarassing |  | | |
| Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 20:06 - Sep 20 with 2440 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 17:36 - Sep 20 by wwcigne |
Sheehan was outwitted today and not for the first time by the opposing manager ,who showed a better tactical ability and awareness
He has to take the blame for today and improve his decision making |
My turn, the day started ok but turned around when my car broke down halfway there. Still the RAC got me repaired and we made the game.
The first half was ok, we had chances, had a perfectly good goal denied and in all honesty we should have been ahead.
The second half saw the ref allow several poor chalnges on us go unpunished but we only had to touch them sometimes for a foul to be given. The game was very even at this point but when the hour came we were clearly tiring and while the Brum manager made changes we waited, and we waited. Galbraith was clearly worn out, Inoussa had been roughed up, bot a yellow card and needed taking off and Ronald had not his best game.
What happened next was a puzzle, the subs should have been made earlier but when they did come they weren't what we needed, in my opinion.
Was Vipotnik worn out because he should have stayed on. Widdell came on and Cullen too. Poor in my opinion.
Is there something I've missed? Why was Benson not put on out wide? He was on the bench so I assume he is fit and Wednesday he looked very good.
In short, the subs were wrong AND maybe more crucially, too late. The game had swung against us so bringing subs on with 3 minutes left was strange.
Has Sheehan bottled it, that was suggested by people around me, that he was too scared to make subs.
Anyway, whatever the reason Sheehan got it wrong today (in my opinion) and it cost us at least a point. | | | |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 21:24 - Sep 20 with 2298 views | Fireboy2 |
| Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 18:45 - Sep 20 by onehunglow |
He has much to learn
Hope he does |
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 21:33 - Sep 20 with 2274 views | onehunglow |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 21:24 - Sep 20 by Fireboy2 |
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| Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 21:38 - Sep 20 with 2273 views | Fireboy2 |
| Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 19:45 - Sep 20 by onehunglow |
As it’s you Ed , it goes like this
Weds was great
Sheehan called it right
We praised him and the night was sweet
Today was a ketcfuen and then that happens people react
It’s like when you’re happy , you are at peace and calm and sanguine
When you see suchbpisss poor defending , it makes one less happy
Now ,SOME , wooden jo way admit this on this forum as that would attract poisonous personal comments
With me so far ? Good
Key and Tymon are weak links and we have cover for both
Today was a day to see us consolidate Weds and we didn’t and that’s why folk comment
Now , if you’re counting my posts then you have issues and I do hope you’re well because you don’t seem so , but this is only a forum
I’ve invited you to lunch three times
If you’d rather bbq your bolloks then fine so shove me on ignore
Serious question
Why do you never post on non football matters
Are you capable of exchanging views that contrast with yours
I doubt it but you should
Be safe and lucky and don’t walk under any ladders
Simple |
Different weds night though, when you were nowhere to be seen.
You are are negative doom monger, who thrives on us losing
You always look for the negative in everything, not just football, I am soooo glad my attitude isn't like yours as I would be dust and my wife wouldn't have have a husband and my boys a dad.
Imo we deserved a draw today, vips goal was legitimate and brum deserved a goal for their 25 mins ascendancy when sheehan didnt make any substitutions.
Hey ho we lost but we had a good time before and after the game meeting up and having a good laugh together.
You wouldn't ever know this because for 1 you don't go to games and 2 more importantly you wouldn't have any friends to meet anyway. [Post edited 20 Sep 21:39]
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| Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 21:42 - Sep 20 with 2230 views | vetchonian |
| Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 20:06 - Sep 20 by SullutaCreturned |
My turn, the day started ok but turned around when my car broke down halfway there. Still the RAC got me repaired and we made the game.
The first half was ok, we had chances, had a perfectly good goal denied and in all honesty we should have been ahead.
The second half saw the ref allow several poor chalnges on us go unpunished but we only had to touch them sometimes for a foul to be given. The game was very even at this point but when the hour came we were clearly tiring and while the Brum manager made changes we waited, and we waited. Galbraith was clearly worn out, Inoussa had been roughed up, bot a yellow card and needed taking off and Ronald had not his best game.
What happened next was a puzzle, the subs should have been made earlier but when they did come they weren't what we needed, in my opinion.
Was Vipotnik worn out because he should have stayed on. Widdell came on and Cullen too. Poor in my opinion.
Is there something I've missed? Why was Benson not put on out wide? He was on the bench so I assume he is fit and Wednesday he looked very good.
In short, the subs were wrong AND maybe more crucially, too late. The game had swung against us so bringing subs on with 3 minutes left was strange.
Has Sheehan bottled it, that was suggested by people around me, that he was too scared to make subs.
Anyway, whatever the reason Sheehan got it wrong today (in my opinion) and it cost us at least a point. |
2 points last week one this.. | |
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| Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 22:14 - Sep 20 with 2176 views | Fireboy2 |
| Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 16:05 - Sep 20 by Dr_Winston |
A game management issue lets us down for the second league game in a row.
It's far from a trait unique to Sheehan, we've been here many times with managers over the years, even back to Brendan, but I cannot fathom why we try to see games out instead doing the opposite and going on the offensive. We had plenty of bench options and could have been making changes from 60-65 minutes in but waited too long. The momentum shifted and then we were struggling.
Yalcouye should have been on a lot sooner. Arguably so should have been Benson and maybe even Widell (who must be wondering why he bothered coming here). There's nothing to lose by being bold when being timid costs you points anyway. |
The famous statement says 'attack is the best form of defence' | | | |
| Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 01:33 - Sep 21 with 1880 views | DJack |
| Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 22:14 - Sep 20 by Fireboy2 |
The famous statement says 'attack is the best form of defence' |
My exact statement to the wife this afternoon... |  |
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| Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 08:21 - Sep 21 with 1608 views | onehunglow |
| Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 21:38 - Sep 20 by Fireboy2 |
Different weds night though, when you were nowhere to be seen.
You are are negative doom monger, who thrives on us losing
You always look for the negative in everything, not just football, I am soooo glad my attitude isn't like yours as I would be dust and my wife wouldn't have have a husband and my boys a dad.
Imo we deserved a draw today, vips goal was legitimate and brum deserved a goal for their 25 mins ascendancy when sheehan didnt make any substitutions.
Hey ho we lost but we had a good time before and after the game meeting up and having a good laugh together.
You wouldn't ever know this because for 1 you don't go to games and 2 more importantly you wouldn't have any friends to meet anyway. [Post edited 20 Sep 21:39]
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So you had a good laugh then
That’s nice
Obviously the result is secondary
Not just me staying away so save your shite for them
Don’t worry about me nor feel for me as I’ve been to the top of the mountain and walked down again
I’m glad your happy” and have uparrows but you know behind every smile they lurks a dark corner
IMO we have chucked away two games
The fact I’m not there makes no difference
IMO , you need to check yourself out again
ANYONE on here to be popular or have “ respect” from people they will never know need to reassess as they are living under a dark cloud
Seriously folks , you need to think it through
Then think again
No wonder so many don’t post on forums
Behind a painted smile lies pain
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| Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 10:16 - Sep 21 with 1381 views | RichardO |
Two games when we know teams are going to come at you in the latter stages of games , Hull because they have to and Birmingham because the fans urge them to and yet we don't bolster our defence. In the past Sheehan has done that putting Fulton on with good results, Fulton missing but we had Casey and Samuel-Smith to use, Tymon got booked with a silly tired looking foul and booking given his usual work rate he begins to look tired and he also seems he becomes desperate to win games getting out of his defensive position and we have seen lots of teams target him towards the end of games and with his booking he needs to be supported or subbed, would have been happy...ish with an away point, the defence needed bolstering.
Sheehan not wanting to.upset a team competing well, we had dropped off the pace so with presumably Inoussa's injury situation needing to be replaced he brought on Eom who he thought would help and Idah who he hoped would help but as yet has shown anything to merit that faith, I would have left Vipotnik on understand Yalcouye coming on for Galbraith but still think we need to have brought Samuel-Smith once Tymon was booked and with Wednesday's showing Benson on, but maybe Sheehan was unsure of putting them on in such a high pressure situation and yet both seem to handle the Notts Forest game well enough same goes for Casey,.
I think Sheehan needs to bolster his defence as teams come at us and also freshen up in areas where our players tire and became ineffective , he didn't and we suffered because of it.
Sheehan is still.learning very much like Cooper did making mistakes with his substitutions quite often in his first season with us. | | | |
| Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 10:22 - Sep 21 with 1339 views | onehunglow |
| Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 10:16 - Sep 21 by RichardO |
Two games when we know teams are going to come at you in the latter stages of games , Hull because they have to and Birmingham because the fans urge them to and yet we don't bolster our defence. In the past Sheehan has done that putting Fulton on with good results, Fulton missing but we had Casey and Samuel-Smith to use, Tymon got booked with a silly tired looking foul and booking given his usual work rate he begins to look tired and he also seems he becomes desperate to win games getting out of his defensive position and we have seen lots of teams target him towards the end of games and with his booking he needs to be supported or subbed, would have been happy...ish with an away point, the defence needed bolstering.
Sheehan not wanting to.upset a team competing well, we had dropped off the pace so with presumably Inoussa's injury situation needing to be replaced he brought on Eom who he thought would help and Idah who he hoped would help but as yet has shown anything to merit that faith, I would have left Vipotnik on understand Yalcouye coming on for Galbraith but still think we need to have brought Samuel-Smith once Tymon was booked and with Wednesday's showing Benson on, but maybe Sheehan was unsure of putting them on in such a high pressure situation and yet both seem to handle the Notts Forest game well enough same goes for Casey,.
I think Sheehan needs to bolster his defence as teams come at us and also freshen up in areas where our players tire and became ineffective , he didn't and we suffered because of it.
Sheehan is still.learning very much like Cooper did making mistakes with his substitutions quite often in his first season with us. |
And that’s not a negative post but one some should reflect upon | |
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| Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 10:25 - Sep 21 with 1338 views | Whiterockin |
| Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 10:16 - Sep 21 by RichardO |
Two games when we know teams are going to come at you in the latter stages of games , Hull because they have to and Birmingham because the fans urge them to and yet we don't bolster our defence. In the past Sheehan has done that putting Fulton on with good results, Fulton missing but we had Casey and Samuel-Smith to use, Tymon got booked with a silly tired looking foul and booking given his usual work rate he begins to look tired and he also seems he becomes desperate to win games getting out of his defensive position and we have seen lots of teams target him towards the end of games and with his booking he needs to be supported or subbed, would have been happy...ish with an away point, the defence needed bolstering.
Sheehan not wanting to.upset a team competing well, we had dropped off the pace so with presumably Inoussa's injury situation needing to be replaced he brought on Eom who he thought would help and Idah who he hoped would help but as yet has shown anything to merit that faith, I would have left Vipotnik on understand Yalcouye coming on for Galbraith but still think we need to have brought Samuel-Smith once Tymon was booked and with Wednesday's showing Benson on, but maybe Sheehan was unsure of putting them on in such a high pressure situation and yet both seem to handle the Notts Forest game well enough same goes for Casey,.
I think Sheehan needs to bolster his defence as teams come at us and also freshen up in areas where our players tire and became ineffective , he didn't and we suffered because of it.
Sheehan is still.learning very much like Cooper did making mistakes with his substitutions quite often in his first season with us. |
If Sheehan is utilising his coaching staff throughout the game I question the input of Darren O'Dea. Last season Sheehan seemed to be making better decisions when we had the two coaches he asked for are they still here or did they go at the end of last season. |  | | |
| Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 10:30 - Sep 21 with 1308 views | raynor94 |
Obviously the offside goal should have stood and think it would have been a different game we tired second half Birmingham were fresher after not playing midweek
Far to late with the subs but the cross from Roberts was perfect our wingers take note |  |
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| Birmingham City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 10:31 - Sep 21 with 1298 views | Dr_Winston |
If teams are starting to come at us then it's our attack we need to bolster, not the defence. The best form of defence is offence. Make them so worried about us they won't have the chance to attack.
Two league games in a row we've made the wrong subs at the wrong time. Yesterday was screaming out for a Benson, or a Widell. Someone to add more going forward. Chucking more defenders on would have just made it easier for Birmingham to dominate. |  |
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