| Time to reel our necks in a bit 17:59 - Sep 21 with 2863 views | MattFinish |
Agreed it's not a great start to the season but we're only 6 games in. People calling for the manager’s head after 6 games or less need to get a serious grip.
Booing subs coming on and cheering when players are being subbed does not help the team - getting behind the team when things are going badly does help.
So, let’s get behind the team like the majority of fans and give Still a chance. He’s had a load of new players within the last 2-3 weeks and has had little time to work with them so let’s get a reality check.
Look at the real issue we have which is the lack of a striker and it doesn’t matter who is in charge as we’ve seen before if you don’t have a striker you don’t win games.
Look at our recruitment of strikers since Pelle left and you see where the real problem lies.
2016/17 – Gabbiadini (6 goals; 0 assists), Austin (1g;0a), Rodriguez (5g;3a) and Long (4g;1a)
2017/18 – Gabbiadini (5g;0a), Austin (7g;1a), Long (2g;1a) & Obafemi (0g;0a)
2018/19 – Ings(8g;3a), Carrillo (0g;1a), Gabbiadini (1g;0a), Austin (8g;0a), Long(5g;1a) & Obafemi (1g;1a)
2019/20 – Ings (24g;2a), Adams (4g;2a), Long (2g;2a) & Obafemi (4g;3a)
2020/21 – Ings (12:4), Adams (9g;5a), Long (0g;0a) & Obafemi (0g;0a)
2021/22 – Broja (8g;0a), Armstrong (2g;2a), Adams (8g;3a), Long (1g;0a) & Obafemi (0g;0a)
2022/23 – Armstrong (2g;1a), Adams (10g;3a), Onuachu (0g;0a) & Mara (2g;3a)
2023/24 – Stewart (0g;0a), Armstrong (24g;13a), Adams (0g;0a), Onuachu (0g;0a) & Mara (6g;2a)
2024/25 – Stewart (1g;0a), Armstrong (3g;2a), Onuachu (4g;1a), Archer (5g;0a) & Breteton-Diaz (0g;0a)
Apart from Ings in 2019/20 and Armstrong in 2023/24 we have had no players score more than 12 in a season and the above includes cup goals. In 10 years only Ings, Adams and Armstrong have got into double figures.
Our transfer spend over those 10 years = £656m
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| Time to reel our necks in a bit on 18:08 - Sep 21 with 2806 views | MattFinish |
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| Time to reel our necks in a bit on 18:10 - Sep 21 with 2801 views | Southamptonfan |
No, totally disagree. Enough of being nice. This club, these owners are getting away with murder. People like you are just accepting failure, accepting the fall of this club and the more it's accepted, the more they get an easy ride. Two relegations in three years, and now langusihing in the bottom half of the championship. We are in free fall, despite plenty of support from the terraces. The club needs pressure put on them to start getting it right.
To support is to condone. And I don't condone what is happening to my club. Mistake after mistake year after year. No striker, what again, for the third year running? [Post edited 21 Sep 18:15]
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| Time to reel our necks in a bit on 18:39 - Sep 21 with 2716 views | cocklebreath |
These players get away with murder week in week out with our fans letting them get away with it, Westham doing protests because they are mid table |  |
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| Time to reel our necks in a bit on 18:40 - Sep 21 with 2717 views | Centurion |
I always expected at least two seasons to get things right. I would not be surprised if we are in the Championship for even longer.
I would prefer we build gradually rather than a quick fix.
It is early days, but maybe this year will be Middlesbrough's year. Their fans have had to be patient. Was it 2017 they went down? | | | |
| Time to reel our necks in a bit on 18:59 - Sep 21 with 2667 views | grumpy |
| Time to reel our necks in a bit on 18:10 - Sep 21 by Southamptonfan |
No, totally disagree. Enough of being nice. This club, these owners are getting away with murder. People like you are just accepting failure, accepting the fall of this club and the more it's accepted, the more they get an easy ride. Two relegations in three years, and now langusihing in the bottom half of the championship. We are in free fall, despite plenty of support from the terraces. The club needs pressure put on them to start getting it right.
To support is to condone. And I don't condone what is happening to my club. Mistake after mistake year after year. No striker, what again, for the third year running? [Post edited 21 Sep 18:15]
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'People like you are just accepting failure'
Matt is not accepting failure,he has a right to his opinion on what is going on.
We see things in different ways because our club has made such a mess.
I'm for giving Will more time but I am worried that he is the man to sort out such a mess.
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| Time to reel our necks in a bit on 19:00 - Sep 21 with 2665 views | Ifonly |
The problem is not the lack of a striker. We have strikers who can score in the championship. Look at your own list. Arma scored 24 (28 in total) in 23/24. He's still at the club. Cameron Archer is just as good.
The problem with the strikers is that we don't have anyone who can play centre forward. So, for example, Arma can score goals playing on the right in a front 3. That's proven. He could probably also score as a second striker in a front 2, as could Archer. But there is no one to lead the line, no one to do the Che Adams role that Arma benefitted from in 23/24. That's what we're missing in the striker department (unless Stewart steps up to the job).
WS is partly to blame for this. It shouldn't have taken him long to see that neither Arma, Archer or Downs are centre forwards and for some reason he doesn't like Stewart. Once he'd seen that he should have demanded a centre forward instead of demanding wingers and full backs. | | | |
| Time to reel our necks in a bit on 19:04 - Sep 21 with 2646 views | saint22 |
| Time to reel our necks in a bit on 19:00 - Sep 21 by Ifonly |
The problem is not the lack of a striker. We have strikers who can score in the championship. Look at your own list. Arma scored 24 (28 in total) in 23/24. He's still at the club. Cameron Archer is just as good.
The problem with the strikers is that we don't have anyone who can play centre forward. So, for example, Arma can score goals playing on the right in a front 3. That's proven. He could probably also score as a second striker in a front 2, as could Archer. But there is no one to lead the line, no one to do the Che Adams role that Arma benefitted from in 23/24. That's what we're missing in the striker department (unless Stewart steps up to the job).
WS is partly to blame for this. It shouldn't have taken him long to see that neither Arma, Archer or Downs are centre forwards and for some reason he doesn't like Stewart. Once he'd seen that he should have demanded a centre forward instead of demanding wingers and full backs. |
I think the problem lies with the manager
We do need a better striker but we know AA and Archer can score in this league but nit the way we play
Both f them need to play centrally and. need supply, we are experimenting, switching line ups each game, Still needs to get back to basics and sort our attacking our issue head on
Playing Downs ahead of those two doesnt work at all
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| Time to reel our necks in a bit on 19:08 - Sep 21 with 2641 views | MattFinish |
| Time to reel our necks in a bit on 18:10 - Sep 21 by Southamptonfan |
No, totally disagree. Enough of being nice. This club, these owners are getting away with murder. People like you are just accepting failure, accepting the fall of this club and the more it's accepted, the more they get an easy ride. Two relegations in three years, and now langusihing in the bottom half of the championship. We are in free fall, despite plenty of support from the terraces. The club needs pressure put on them to start getting it right.
To support is to condone. And I don't condone what is happening to my club. Mistake after mistake year after year. No striker, what again, for the third year running? [Post edited 21 Sep 18:15]
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People like me? You mean people who don't agree with you?
Again, if you reel your neck in and take time to read my post you will see I'm not happy with what SR have done, in fact if you read previous posts I've been critical of SR who have been as poor if not poorer than Chairman Gao.
What I’m saying is it’s ridiculous to be baying for a manager’s head withing 6 games of the start of the season. At that rate we could go through 7 managers in a season | | | |
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| Time to reel our necks in a bit on 19:09 - Sep 21 with 2637 views | MattFinish |
| Time to reel our necks in a bit on 18:59 - Sep 21 by grumpy |
'People like you are just accepting failure'
Matt is not accepting failure,he has a right to his opinion on what is going on.
We see things in different ways because our club has made such a mess.
I'm for giving Will more time but I am worried that he is the man to sort out such a mess.
Only time will tell. |
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| Time to reel our necks in a bit on 19:12 - Sep 21 with 2628 views | Southamptonfan |
| Time to reel our necks in a bit on 18:59 - Sep 21 by grumpy |
'People like you are just accepting failure'
Matt is not accepting failure,he has a right to his opinion on what is going on.
We see things in different ways because our club has made such a mess.
I'm for giving Will more time but I am worried that he is the man to sort out such a mess.
Only time will tell. |
I don't think he's right to say wind your neck in. These fans have suffered. Another terrible performance and the fans who travelled a round trip of nearly 600 miles booed. You think they should clap and cheer? He may do, you may that's fine, I dont. They dont deserve our support, keep.playing like idiots week after week. [Post edited 21 Sep 19:13]
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| Time to reel our necks in a bit on 19:15 - Sep 21 with 2611 views | saintmark1976 |
No, absolutely not.
We are a great club with a proud history and were once respected as being a well run member of The Premier League.
Whilst perhaps not being capable of winning that league ( although Leicester did with similar resources) we were at least able to hold our own and have the occasional decent cup run.
Since Sports Republic arrived our direction of travel has been only downward with two Premiership relegations in just three seasons and we now find ourselves eighteen in the second tier of English Football having gone through seven different managers to get there.
You accept whatever you want as being satisfactory, that’s your privilege.
I for one am no longer interested in the staid old mantra of let’s get behind the players and manager, simply because of the fact that like our owners and their employees at Sports Republic, they are collectively proven to be not good enough.
Should your view prevail there is every likelihood that in very short order we will be making League trips to Morcombe.
Anyhow, that’s my opinion and I’m sure we won’t fall out about it given that life is too short as they say. [Post edited 21 Sep 19:18]
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| Time to reel our necks in a bit on 19:15 - Sep 21 with 2609 views | Southamptonfan |
| Time to reel our necks in a bit on 19:08 - Sep 21 by MattFinish |
People like me? You mean people who don't agree with you?
Again, if you reel your neck in and take time to read my post you will see I'm not happy with what SR have done, in fact if you read previous posts I've been critical of SR who have been as poor if not poorer than Chairman Gao.
What I’m saying is it’s ridiculous to be baying for a manager’s head withing 6 games of the start of the season. At that rate we could go through 7 managers in a season |
Many fans knew he would be useless from day one. Hes another failure under the long list of failures.
People like you, as in fans who think our long suffering fans should travel 500 miles and not boo when the players dont even bother turning up.
Put some demands on these highly paid players instead of keeping clapping and cheering and saying it's fine, when it's not. [Post edited 21 Sep 19:17]
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| Time to reel our necks in a bit on 19:21 - Sep 21 with 2569 views | Southamptonfan |
| Time to reel our necks in a bit on 19:15 - Sep 21 by saintmark1976 |
No, absolutely not.
We are a great club with a proud history and were once respected as being a well run member of The Premier League.
Whilst perhaps not being capable of winning that league ( although Leicester did with similar resources) we were at least able to hold our own and have the occasional decent cup run.
Since Sports Republic arrived our direction of travel has been only downward with two Premiership relegations in just three seasons and we now find ourselves eighteen in the second tier of English Football having gone through seven different managers to get there.
You accept whatever you want as being satisfactory, that’s your privilege.
I for one am no longer interested in the staid old mantra of let’s get behind the players and manager, simply because of the fact that like our owners and their employees at Sports Republic, they are collectively proven to be not good enough.
Should your view prevail there is every likelihood that in very short order we will be making League trips to Morcombe.
Anyhow, that’s my opinion and I’m sure we won’t fall out about it given that life is too short as they say. [Post edited 21 Sep 19:18]
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Well that's the point isnt it. Just keep getting behind the team come what may people say. Don't ever criticise the players or hold them to account, no booing, just be nice.
As you say, then Morecambe come to town in league 2 a and the answer is never mind, just keep getting behind the team that never wins. [Post edited 21 Sep 19:43]
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| Time to reel our necks in a bit on 19:23 - Sep 21 with 2560 views | DorsetIan |
| Time to reel our necks in a bit on 19:15 - Sep 21 by Southamptonfan |
Many fans knew he would be useless from day one. Hes another failure under the long list of failures.
People like you, as in fans who think our long suffering fans should travel 500 miles and not boo when the players dont even bother turning up.
Put some demands on these highly paid players instead of keeping clapping and cheering and saying it's fine, when it's not. [Post edited 21 Sep 19:17]
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To be fair we didn't 'know' he would be useless.
We knew Solak was useless, and assumed that he'd screwed up another vital appointment but Still could have turned out to be a boy genius.
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| Time to reel our necks in a bit on 19:27 - Sep 21 with 2549 views | Southamptonfan |
| Time to reel our necks in a bit on 19:23 - Sep 21 by DorsetIan |
To be fair we didn't 'know' he would be useless.
We knew Solak was useless, and assumed that he'd screwed up another vital appointment but Still could have turned out to be a boy genius.
Unfortunately, he hasn't. |
I rephrase. I had a very good idea that a manager who had never managed in England, never got promotion, is very young, never played football, very cheap, speaks in a monotone boring voice, learnt the game by playing championship manager on the computer, an experiment chosen by SR who have got nearly every decision wrong, was likely not to be very good. I said this in June. But there we are. [Post edited 21 Sep 19:28]
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| Time to reel our necks in a bit on 19:52 - Sep 21 with 2480 views | 1885_SFC |
| Time to reel our necks in a bit on 19:27 - Sep 21 by Southamptonfan |
I rephrase. I had a very good idea that a manager who had never managed in England, never got promotion, is very young, never played football, very cheap, speaks in a monotone boring voice, learnt the game by playing championship manager on the computer, an experiment chosen by SR who have got nearly every decision wrong, was likely not to be very good. I said this in June. But there we are. [Post edited 21 Sep 19:28]
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I learnt to infiltrate ISIS-occupied houses in some Middle East sh1thole of a country by playing Call of Duty. I learnt to sneak up behind them & silently slit their throat. I learned to call in an airstrike when the going got tough & watch as a JDAM guidance bomb blew up a Taliban stronghold & sent them all to Paradise to meet their virgins. I even learned how to take down an enemy F-16 fighter jet that was threatening my unit by firing a shoulder-launched anti-aircraft missile & watched as it crashed & burned in the Afghan mountains.
Unlike Will Still and his time playing Championship Manager on a console, it didn't make me an expert & I certainly won't be joining the Army. |  |
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| Time to reel our necks in a bit on 20:15 - Sep 21 with 2405 views | saintmark1976 |
| Time to reel our necks in a bit on 19:52 - Sep 21 by 1885_SFC |
I learnt to infiltrate ISIS-occupied houses in some Middle East sh1thole of a country by playing Call of Duty. I learnt to sneak up behind them & silently slit their throat. I learned to call in an airstrike when the going got tough & watch as a JDAM guidance bomb blew up a Taliban stronghold & sent them all to Paradise to meet their virgins. I even learned how to take down an enemy F-16 fighter jet that was threatening my unit by firing a shoulder-launched anti-aircraft missile & watched as it crashed & burned in the Afghan mountains.
Unlike Will Still and his time playing Championship Manager on a console, it didn't make me an expert & I certainly won't be joining the Army. |
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| Time to reel our necks in a bit on 20:28 - Sep 21 with 2370 views | Southamptonfan |
| Time to reel our necks in a bit on 19:52 - Sep 21 by 1885_SFC |
I learnt to infiltrate ISIS-occupied houses in some Middle East sh1thole of a country by playing Call of Duty. I learnt to sneak up behind them & silently slit their throat. I learned to call in an airstrike when the going got tough & watch as a JDAM guidance bomb blew up a Taliban stronghold & sent them all to Paradise to meet their virgins. I even learned how to take down an enemy F-16 fighter jet that was threatening my unit by firing a shoulder-launched anti-aircraft missile & watched as it crashed & burned in the Afghan mountains.
Unlike Will Still and his time playing Championship Manager on a console, it didn't make me an expert & I certainly won't be joining the Army. |
I couldn't have put it better myself. Great story to demonstrate the point 😹 | |
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| Time to reel our necks in a bit on 22:27 - Sep 21 with 2228 views | DorsetIan |
| Time to reel our necks in a bit on 19:27 - Sep 21 by Southamptonfan |
I rephrase. I had a very good idea that a manager who had never managed in England, never got promotion, is very young, never played football, very cheap, speaks in a monotone boring voice, learnt the game by playing championship manager on the computer, an experiment chosen by SR who have got nearly every decision wrong, was likely not to be very good. I said this in June. But there we are. [Post edited 21 Sep 19:28]
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You weren't the only one.
I guess the real problem is that we've now seen that the team is playing like a team managed by a naive 32 year old with no experience of English football. | |
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| Time to reel our necks in a bit on 22:54 - Sep 21 with 2166 views | Southamptonfan |
| Time to reel our necks in a bit on 22:27 - Sep 21 by DorsetIan |
You weren't the only one.
I guess the real problem is that we've now seen that the team is playing like a team managed by a naive 32 year old with no experience of English football. |
Yep. And this a big, big job. It needed someone who has seen it all before. Some calm, confident actions from a man who knows how to deal with this challenging situation. Will Still won't have a clue how to cope with such pressure and the toxicity that is about to begin. It's inevitable that he will go at some point, just like we knew Nathan Jones would and he seemingly almost had a breakdown. He again, shouldn't have been put in the position in the first place. [Post edited 21 Sep 22:56]
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| Time to reel our necks in a bit on 06:57 - Sep 22 with 1905 views | cocklebreath |
Think the bookies have decided we ain’t looking too good. Gone from 11/2 2nd favourites out to 14/1 7th favourites. Ipswich still 4/1 favs. | |
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| Time to reel our necks in a bit on 07:04 - Sep 22 with 1885 views | saintwizzler |
The appointment of Still was the final nail in the coffin for me. There are other reasons that led me to not renewing my Season Ticket but they are not for here.
The club didn’t need another experimental manager/head coach whatever his title is.
After last season it needed an experienced man to come in and steady the ship.
Look at the job the Middlesbrough manager is doing.
Bad appointment after bad appointment. It goes on.
If Still goes in the next couple of months Adam Lallana will take over with one of his chums as his assistant. You know it’s going to happen.
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| Time to reel our necks in a bit on 10:59 - Sep 22 with 1662 views | saints__fan__73 |
2023/24 – Stewart (0g;0a), Armstrong (24g;13a), Adams (0g;0a), Onuachu (0g;0a) & Mara (6g;2a)
Adams actually scored 17 goals in our promotion season. [Post edited 22 Sep 11:00]
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| Time to reel our necks in a bit on 13:22 - Sep 22 with 1461 views | PatfromPoole |
| Time to reel our necks in a bit on 10:59 - Sep 22 by saints__fan__73 |
2023/24 – Stewart (0g;0a), Armstrong (24g;13a), Adams (0g;0a), Onuachu (0g;0a) & Mara (6g;2a)
Adams actually scored 17 goals in our promotion season. [Post edited 22 Sep 11:00]
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Nearly 18 months on, we have still not replaced Che Adams. |  |
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| Time to reel our necks in a bit on 15:17 - Sep 22 with 1284 views | yateleysaint |
| Time to reel our necks in a bit on 18:10 - Sep 21 by Southamptonfan |
No, totally disagree. Enough of being nice. This club, these owners are getting away with murder. People like you are just accepting failure, accepting the fall of this club and the more it's accepted, the more they get an easy ride. Two relegations in three years, and now langusihing in the bottom half of the championship. We are in free fall, despite plenty of support from the terraces. The club needs pressure put on them to start getting it right.
To support is to condone. And I don't condone what is happening to my club. Mistake after mistake year after year. No striker, what again, for the third year running? [Post edited 21 Sep 18:15]
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Damn straight!
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