| Midweek attendances 10:39 - Sep 26 with 1958 views | 49thseason |
Are we doing enough to improve our attendances give the form we are in?
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| Midweek attendances on 11:05 - Sep 26 with 1887 views | 442Dale |
It was often said, quite rightly, on here how the impact home form (results/goals/entertainment) is an important factor in bringing in crowds.
Since the beginning of the 23/24 season, our league record at Spotland:
51 games. W27, D12, L12 : 93 points
93 goals have been scored in those games.
So that’s one issue sorted. It’s now up to the club, organisations like the Trust and the CAB to look at doing more. Presumably all those involved are able to influence that and bring ideas to the table that will make a difference. [Post edited 26 Sep 11:19]
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| Midweek attendances on 11:34 - Sep 26 with 1791 views | dingdangblue |
Next Wednesday is a better game to judge. Solihull at home ( no disrespect to Solihull) isn't really mouthwatering for the casual fan. If we do beat Carlisle on Saturday I would be disappointed if we couldn't get 3000 home fans to attend - local Derby and we could potentially be top of the league again. |  |
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| Midweek attendances on 11:45 - Sep 26 with 1765 views | EllDale |
I’ve noticed over the last couple of years that several familiar faces who normally stand near me in the Sandy never miss a Saturday fixture but also never come to midweek games. There’s a couple of families in particular.
Presuming that they’re season ticket holders does the new ticketing system have the ability to identify this type of supporter? Would be easy if so to email them and ask, politely, why they don’t come to night games eg work, childcare, transport? |  | | |
| Midweek attendances on 11:55 - Sep 26 with 1742 views | Dalenet |
| Midweek attendances on 11:45 - Sep 26 by EllDale |
I’ve noticed over the last couple of years that several familiar faces who normally stand near me in the Sandy never miss a Saturday fixture but also never come to midweek games. There’s a couple of families in particular.
Presuming that they’re season ticket holders does the new ticketing system have the ability to identify this type of supporter? Would be easy if so to email them and ask, politely, why they don’t come to night games eg work, childcare, transport? |
I have said many times on this Board that people would be surprised as to how many of our fans live outside of Rochdale. It is hard to get to Spotland on a Tuesday night if you are working and don't live locally. I am a season ticket holder but can't always get to a game on Tuesday, and having made a really difficult journey on Saturday at considerable expense, I was never going to take the risk again on Tuesday. There are plenty of people that sit near me in the same boat and don't live localy anymore. I am going to take the risk on Wednesday assuming it doesn't rain beforehand.
Our key issue is attracting new fans. Being towards the top of the league, and scoring goals, will bring more through the gate. I too expect us to exceed 3,000 on Wednesday, but a good result at Carlisle will help. | | | |
| Midweek attendances on 12:17 - Sep 26 with 1687 views | 442Dale |
| Midweek attendances on 11:34 - Sep 26 by dingdangblue |
Next Wednesday is a better game to judge. Solihull at home ( no disrespect to Solihull) isn't really mouthwatering for the casual fan. If we do beat Carlisle on Saturday I would be disappointed if we couldn't get 3000 home fans to attend - local Derby and we could potentially be top of the league again. |
Would be very surprised if we got anywhere near 3000 home fans on Wednesday even if we win 5-0 at Carlisle.
Would be happy with 2500, and even having over 2000 against Solihull was pretty good.
Midweek attendances have rarely been on a level we’d want. Back in November 2016 we played Walsall at home on a Tuesday after beating Swindon 4-0 at Spotland three days earlier. We won 4-0 again.
That took us into the L1 play-off places. The crowd, somewhat appropriately, was 1907. [Post edited 26 Sep 12:23]
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| Midweek attendances on 16:47 - Sep 26 with 1393 views | tony_roch975 |
Happy to see marketing initiatives to increase attendances but if you put another column in the OP table - "no of premier league grounds within 20 miles" you'd get a different perspective? | |
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| Midweek attendances on 19:12 - Sep 26 with 1258 views | Plattyswrinklynuts |
Doesn’t help that there’s a bus strike planned next week either. |  | | |
| Midweek attendances on 20:32 - Sep 26 with 1142 views | foreverhopefulDale |
| Midweek attendances on 19:12 - Sep 26 by Plattyswrinklynuts |
Doesn’t help that there’s a bus strike planned next week either. |
Could the club not lay on transport from the town centre, and charge a nominal fee? |  |
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| Midweek attendances on 10:30 - Sep 27 with 748 views | TVOS1907 |
There's a long way to go, of course, and these are very small sample sizes, but the average number of Dale fans at this season's home games is currently the highest it has been since the 2019/20 season.
It is also higher than in the entire 2015/16 season when we were in League One and only 95 less than the 2013/14 promotion campaign.
And that's even though, to coin what's becoming a popular phrase, we haven't played anyone yet...
Also, the average number of home fans at our two midweek league fixtures so far (a very small sample size) is higher than at all last season's midweek games, including the Oldham match.
So, the sketchy conclusion is that there are small improvements, but it's slow progress.
Let's also remember having seven home games in the season's first two months will be hard on the pockets of those who aren't season ticket holders, especially as our matchday admission is quite high in comparison.
Also, as DDB mentions, it often takes more attractive opposition, or a crucial six-pointer type of game to entice non-regulars.
Surprised the OP hasn't returned to this interesting debate, either.... [Post edited 27 Sep 10:37]
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| Midweek attendances on 11:50 - Sep 27 with 619 views | Dalenet |
| Midweek attendances on 12:17 - Sep 26 by 442Dale |
Would be very surprised if we got anywhere near 3000 home fans on Wednesday even if we win 5-0 at Carlisle.
Would be happy with 2500, and even having over 2000 against Solihull was pretty good.
Midweek attendances have rarely been on a level we’d want. Back in November 2016 we played Walsall at home on a Tuesday after beating Swindon 4-0 at Spotland three days earlier. We won 4-0 again.
That took us into the L1 play-off places. The crowd, somewhat appropriately, was 1907. [Post edited 26 Sep 12:23]
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But there were c2950 on a Tuesday night last October for Dale v Halifax, of which Halifax brought 700. And our form has improved since then. The bus strike may have an impact - but surely we could be on for 3000. | | | |
| Midweek attendances on 14:31 - Sep 27 with 428 views | 442Dale |
| Midweek attendances on 11:50 - Sep 27 by Dalenet |
But there were c2950 on a Tuesday night last October for Dale v Halifax, of which Halifax brought 700. And our form has improved since then. The bus strike may have an impact - but surely we could be on for 3000. |
3000 in total if Halifax bring a few is achievable but it was whether there would be 3000 home fans.
We were 6th and doing well last year so if we can get over 2500 home fans this season it will be indicating some progression.
The bigger issue is growing the core fanbase to a larger figure, we know more will turn out for the bigger games. More needs to be done to retain them - that’s where the Club/CAB come in. Would already expect moves to have been made to address that. | |
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| Midweek attendances on 14:55 - Sep 27 with 357 views | 49thseason |
| Midweek attendances on 10:30 - Sep 27 by TVOS1907 |
There's a long way to go, of course, and these are very small sample sizes, but the average number of Dale fans at this season's home games is currently the highest it has been since the 2019/20 season.
It is also higher than in the entire 2015/16 season when we were in League One and only 95 less than the 2013/14 promotion campaign.
And that's even though, to coin what's becoming a popular phrase, we haven't played anyone yet...
Also, the average number of home fans at our two midweek league fixtures so far (a very small sample size) is higher than at all last season's midweek games, including the Oldham match.
So, the sketchy conclusion is that there are small improvements, but it's slow progress.
Let's also remember having seven home games in the season's first two months will be hard on the pockets of those who aren't season ticket holders, especially as our matchday admission is quite high in comparison.
Also, as DDB mentions, it often takes more attractive opposition, or a crucial six-pointer type of game to entice non-regulars.
Surprised the OP hasn't returned to this interesting debate, either.... [Post edited 27 Sep 10:37]
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Thanks for the data, It felt as if there were more there last week and the " singing section" looked visibly larger and not because of migration from the Sandy which seemed reasonably well populated, so a small but noticable increase...even so, the attendance on Tuesday was below ST sales when you would hope for an increase on that number... maybe school nights are problematic for some people with younger kids? | | | |
| Midweek attendances on 17:10 - Sep 27 with 194 views | 442Dale |
| Midweek attendances on 14:31 - Sep 27 by 442Dale |
3000 in total if Halifax bring a few is achievable but it was whether there would be 3000 home fans.
We were 6th and doing well last year so if we can get over 2500 home fans this season it will be indicating some progression.
The bigger issue is growing the core fanbase to a larger figure, we know more will turn out for the bigger games. More needs to be done to retain them - that’s where the Club/CAB come in. Would already expect moves to have been made to address that. |
Halifax scoring goals and now on the brink of the play-offs, Dale in good form… would now be looking at hopefully 3500.
Though there were just over 1200 home fans at the Shay today. | |
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