| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 08:04 - Oct 2 with 2981 views | TalkingSutty |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 06:49 - Oct 2 by Dale_4_Life |
We cant play our best 11 every week but we can play our best available 11.
Last night Jim got it wrong.. looking at the team sheet it looked unbalanced and so it proved.
Hogan is just to slow now physically, mentally and execution.
Gordon has a tough game closed down half a dozen times by the hard working Halifax players.
Tarryn needs to spend a week cutting inside some cones on the training ground and deciding how to shoot underneath the bar not blazing it high and wide.
Mani isolated with 2 or 3 defenders snapping at his heels.. was his disallowed goal handball? it happened very quickly it was probably the right decision.
Rodney and EEL should have started. Its at home in our local Derby with valuable 3 points on offer. As mentioned previously by others the energy expunged in the last 30 minutes makes rotation and supposed rest nonsense.
On a positive note Dale could easily have got something from last night despite going 2-0 down. The midweek home crowd was up and we did get an entertaining game. This side still learning and i think we will see a big reaction on Saturday and a performance to match.
9 wins from 11 and a massive top of the table clash at the weekend. Bring that on. [Post edited 2 Oct 6:49]
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Agree with that. We rested three players from the win at Carlisle who will all start at FGR. We changed a rock solid defence and rested our captain for a local derby. Dropping Rodney also impacted Mani and made the defensive task much easier for Halifax. Played with one recognised forward. So that had a double whammy effect. The rested players weren't injured or ill, they wouldn't have been on the bench had that been the case. So a weakened starting eleven and done deliberately by the manager with one eye on Saturdays game. We are now in a situation where we could easily lose two games on the spin. These players have only played 10 games and most are rotated so don't play the full minutes. Last night was a local derby but it wasn't treated like one, the manager gave Halifax a leg up and we self harmed yet again instead of being ruthless and concentrating on the game in front of us. We ended up chasing the game after a first half that again saw us revert to defenders passing the ball amongst themselves and slowing the game to walking pace. Gordon and Hogan being the main culprits. It's a shame because we were great at Carlisle and yet again we have stopped momentum and missed out on a chance of going to the top of the league. McNulty needs to toughen up and find a ruthless streak and stop treating the players like babies who constantly need protecting. He's like a mother hen with his chicks. [Post edited 2 Oct 8:21]
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| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 08:37 - Oct 2 with 2838 views | EllDale |
I sometimes feel that BJ doesn’t appreciate the significance of derby matches in the eyes of a lot of the fanbase. To him they’re just another game on the schedule, perhaps rightly so.
Halifax obviously did their homework; perhaps the reduced impact of Mani D was down to a degree due to the shackles that they managed to put on Tobi. |  | | |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 09:05 - Oct 2 with 2761 views | TVOS1907 |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 00:48 - Oct 2 by EllDale |
The one I got (14.50 from Halifax) was pretty empty. Not a Halifax Town fan in sight. |
Sounds like your neighbours were pulling your leg. |  |
| You mean you STILL haven't worked out why some posts get down-ticked? |
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| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 09:27 - Oct 2 with 2691 views | EllDale |
You could be right there. I must have “mug” stamped on my forehead sometimes. | | | |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 09:28 - Oct 2 with 2681 views | howy10 |
Win on Saturday and we go top. |  | | |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 09:39 - Oct 2 with 2620 views | dingdangblue |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 09:28 - Oct 2 by howy10 |
Win on Saturday and we go top. |
Win last night and we are top. |  |
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| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 10:11 - Oct 2 with 2544 views | DaleiLama |
Best team to come to Spotland this year and arguably the best team we've faced this year based on our matches in isolation. We'll drilled, energetic, ruthless when chances were presented and defended well with backs to the wall for half an hour+.
Disappointed to drop all 3 points at home and would have liked to see that game played to a conclusion with our available starting XI excluding Pritchard. Still, we're well placed and face our biggest challenge yet vs Village Green away on Saturday. Looking forward to it
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| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 10:23 - Oct 2 with 2479 views | WirralDale |
No sign of Hendo on the subs bench recently - surely there's still a playing role for him? | | | |
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| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 10:46 - Oct 2 with 2397 views | samueloneils |
If you follow Jim`s reasoning after the match, and accepting his judgement on the Rodney situation, surely the sensible thing would have been to start with his best 11 from the previous game and make any changes to that in the second half.
Manni and Dev complement each other so well. I can`t recall such a perfect pairing for quite some time. Handling both strikers with very different attributes will always be a problem for any defence.
By the second half hopefully we would be in front, particularly against a mid table team like Halifax . and then try the 2 number ten`s or whatever formation justified the scoreline.
As already reported here, we have now given away 6 points by not playing our strongest lineup. I think he is now suffering from the surplus of midfielders, as predicted by several of us, whereas what we needed was defenders or attackers. Amantchi has been very disappointing but at least is only on loan.
I have watched all the top title contenders now thanks to DAZN. I think we are the best team, though I still expect York to be the main threat. We must push on with points. Forget the long term, Jim. Take a match at a time. | | | |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 10:58 - Oct 2 with 2367 views | frenzied |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 10:23 - Oct 2 by WirralDale |
No sign of Hendo on the subs bench recently - surely there's still a playing role for him? |
That did suprise me..we sometimes need someone with a bit of know how and guile to open up a system as resolute as the Halifax one last night.
I also prefer to see Mani and Devante start together | | | |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 11:33 - Oct 2 with 2292 views | Yorkshire_Dale |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 00:02 - Oct 2 by mikehunt |
I think Jim got the team selection tonight, wrong. If our best starting eleven were fit, why didn't we start with them, instead of chucking them on when the game had gone.
Surely it is more logical to try and build a lead then bring the players off to save their legs. We ballsed up at Brackley like this and did it again tonight. Perhaps now we'll learn? |
Doubt he will learn.......but if he has to tinker,why not just one player at a time?
Resting/saving some players heaps pressure on the others as noted when we are chasing the game as a consequence of tinkering.
In our own local derby, last night was the wrong time. | | | |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 12:02 - Oct 2 with 2230 views | dingdangblue |
I mean if Jim is worried about fatigue why is he keeping EEL on the pitch when we are 3-0 up at Wealdstone and 4-0 up v Solihull. Both games he played 90 mins. If you want to rest his legs or save him for 'bigger' games give him a rest at the earliest opportunity when the games are won - not in a massive derby game at home. | |
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| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 13:03 - Oct 2 with 2114 views | 49thseason |
I think Hogan is decent as a backs to the wall defender, but EEL moves the ball forwards much quicker and give the forwards a chance to lose their marker for a second or two. If we had scored first with the same team which started at Carlisle the opportunity to rest a couple of players might have presented itself soon enough. But without the EEL to Rodney outlet, and Mani left wondering where his partner was, the cutting edge wasnt there...Lessons learned hopefully ..1. Start with your best available side, 2. Score first , 3. Dont break up on-field partnerships it upsets at least 2 players... 4. Make your subs from a position of strength. 5. Its imperative to score 2 goals per game....set up accordingly.... |  | | |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 13:07 - Oct 2 with 2103 views | D_Alien |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 13:03 - Oct 2 by 49thseason |
I think Hogan is decent as a backs to the wall defender, but EEL moves the ball forwards much quicker and give the forwards a chance to lose their marker for a second or two. If we had scored first with the same team which started at Carlisle the opportunity to rest a couple of players might have presented itself soon enough. But without the EEL to Rodney outlet, and Mani left wondering where his partner was, the cutting edge wasnt there...Lessons learned hopefully ..1. Start with your best available side, 2. Score first , 3. Dont break up on-field partnerships it upsets at least 2 players... 4. Make your subs from a position of strength. 5. Its imperative to score 2 goals per game....set up accordingly.... |
The purpose of employing ex-players as managers/coaches is that they're expected to know these things intuitively... |  |
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| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 13:28 - Oct 2 with 2027 views | 442Dale |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 12:02 - Oct 2 by dingdangblue |
I mean if Jim is worried about fatigue why is he keeping EEL on the pitch when we are 3-0 up at Wealdstone and 4-0 up v Solihull. Both games he played 90 mins. If you want to rest his legs or save him for 'bigger' games give him a rest at the earliest opportunity when the games are won - not in a massive derby game at home. |
Yeah, that’s something that would make more sense. If anything we haven’t rested players as much as we could have in the comprehensive wins.
While I agree that leaving EEL and Rodney out was a mistake, the whole “tinkering” argument wasn’t being used when Barlow was left out for McBride or Berkoe coming in for Allarakhia.
Also, Rodney isn’t Mani’s partner. We play with three in forward positions, Mani has played with all of them this season. It’s just that I feel we look better with one of McBride or Barlow, not both. [Post edited 2 Oct 13:39]
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| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 13:44 - Oct 2 with 1974 views | dingdangblue |
Just listened to Jim post match again and he says he was advised to only give Dev 45 mins? I presume any week we play Sat/Tue or Wed/Sat that Rodney will be managed this way because of his past issues. That's fine - but if you were only giving Dev 45 mins at home you would definitely do it in the 1st half. Most of our games this season we've been much better in the 1st half and scored to take the lead. Apart from the 2 games we've tinkered with the team where we've been losing both at ht 1-0 and lost both 2-1. Start with your strongest team then rest players if/when we are winning. | |
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| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 13:51 - Oct 2 with 1943 views | SaxonDale |
Firstly- credit has to go to Halifax. They worked incredibly hard and have a few talented young players in their ranks- I think they'll take points off a few of the title chasers as the season goes on.
I actually wasn't too downhearted after the match. It's obvious what we lack when EEL/ Rodney can't play but hopefully, injuries withstanding, that won't happen too often (especially if we get lucky with the pitch and don't have a backlog of fixtures)
Halifax sat deep and defended very well but we still had more than enough chances to get at least a point- a huge step forward from last season where we didn't look like breaking down teams whenever they put into place a 'low block.' The atmosphere also sounded great on DAZN- credit to all who went. |  | | |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 14:16 - Oct 2 with 1863 views | TalkingSutty |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 13:51 - Oct 2 by SaxonDale |
Firstly- credit has to go to Halifax. They worked incredibly hard and have a few talented young players in their ranks- I think they'll take points off a few of the title chasers as the season goes on.
I actually wasn't too downhearted after the match. It's obvious what we lack when EEL/ Rodney can't play but hopefully, injuries withstanding, that won't happen too often (especially if we get lucky with the pitch and don't have a backlog of fixtures)
Halifax sat deep and defended very well but we still had more than enough chances to get at least a point- a huge step forward from last season where we didn't look like breaking down teams whenever they put into place a 'low block.' The atmosphere also sounded great on DAZN- credit to all who went. |
EEL and Rodney could play though. The manager decided to field a weakened team against Halifax who had lost one game in nine and won three on the spin. Both games we have lost have been down to McNulty changing a winning team and lets not forget that most of the players have only started ten league games up to now. Less for Rodney and EEL. If he's citing fatigue already then it makes you wonder why their fitness levels are so low. We've just moved out of September, why do players need a rest, why did they all need resting against Brackley? FGR didn't rest players last night in preperation for Saturdays game. I get it that some wont have a bad word said against the manager but we've handicapped ourselves before a ball has been kicked in our two losses. [Post edited 2 Oct 15:00]
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| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 14:55 - Oct 2 with 1759 views | samueloneils |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 13:51 - Oct 2 by SaxonDale |
Firstly- credit has to go to Halifax. They worked incredibly hard and have a few talented young players in their ranks- I think they'll take points off a few of the title chasers as the season goes on.
I actually wasn't too downhearted after the match. It's obvious what we lack when EEL/ Rodney can't play but hopefully, injuries withstanding, that won't happen too often (especially if we get lucky with the pitch and don't have a backlog of fixtures)
Halifax sat deep and defended very well but we still had more than enough chances to get at least a point- a huge step forward from last season where we didn't look like breaking down teams whenever they put into place a 'low block.' The atmosphere also sounded great on DAZN- credit to all who went. |
You are right to mention the pitch problem.
We should be fighting for every point before the weather worsens. We`re already 1 match behind. How will Jim go on if we end up with more postponents meaning he has to play even more midweek matches? How will that affect players who already need to be rested -apparently? | | | |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 15:32 - Oct 2 with 1682 views | jonahwhereru |
For sure fitness levels aren’t low given how we have played this season. If the intention was to rest the captain and Dev as much as possible and still win, that can become a dilemma. If you play them from the start , which I have advocated for previously, and you still go in one down at half time? It is then almost impossible to take them off, as desired, while you’re still behind. It’s all subjective but I can see the manger’s point of view. Plus Rodney seems to play well at FGR, and no mistake that is the biggest challenge of the season so far.
Happy to cut the management some slack, they’ve earn that. We are still the most consistent team in the division.
It’s all about Saturday now. See you down there.
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| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 16:05 - Oct 2 with 1606 views | dingdangblue |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 15:32 - Oct 2 by jonahwhereru |
For sure fitness levels aren’t low given how we have played this season. If the intention was to rest the captain and Dev as much as possible and still win, that can become a dilemma. If you play them from the start , which I have advocated for previously, and you still go in one down at half time? It is then almost impossible to take them off, as desired, while you’re still behind. It’s all subjective but I can see the manger’s point of view. Plus Rodney seems to play well at FGR, and no mistake that is the biggest challenge of the season so far.
Happy to cut the management some slack, they’ve earn that. We are still the most consistent team in the division.
It’s all about Saturday now. See you down there.
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Yes if you look at the last 2 games we have more points than Forest Green. 3pts to 2pts. Although a win and then a loss isn't great for morale it's brought us more points than Forest Green's 2 draws. We should be going for them Saturday from the first whistle with our strongest X1. | |
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| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 16:48 - Oct 2 with 1505 views | rod_leach |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 09:39 - Oct 2 by dingdangblue |
Win last night and we are top. |
Win last night and we would have been top [Post edited 2 Oct 16:49]
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| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 17:34 - Oct 2 with 1394 views | Edindale |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 10:58 - Oct 2 by frenzied |
That did suprise me..we sometimes need someone with a bit of know how and guile to open up a system as resolute as the Halifax one last night.
I also prefer to see Mani and Devante start together |
Totally agree about Hendo, but I presume he is fit to play if and when needed. Unfortunately it doesn't look as if the loan deal is working out for Levi who admittedly has had limited chances to shine. A pity because he looks a handful and Mani will inevitably get suspended again.
Regarding Hogan he is still a very decent defender at this level and a good member of the squad, but he takes us back to within the penalty area rather than 20 yards up the pitch meaning we are far deeper than when EEL is on the pitch and the midfield has a lot more work to do. Maybe this is to protect a lack of pace but it allows the opposition to get defensively set.
Hopefully BJ is actively considering the CH position given the respective ages and the potential injury situation. | | | |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 18:45 - Oct 2 with 1290 views | Dale_4_Life |
Lets agree with Jim for a moment.. The "recommended advice" is Rodney should play half a game.
If Rodney can play 45 minutes... of the two which is the best scenario..
Warm up pre match have loose muscles and play 1-45 first half.
Warm up pre match - sit on the bench.. muscles go cold and you play 45-90.
Its absolute folly to be trying to protect what might, or might not happen.
Rodney and EEL should have started last night STOP Over thinking it. | | | |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 19:14 - Oct 2 with 1218 views | 442Dale |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 17:34 - Oct 2 by Edindale |
Totally agree about Hendo, but I presume he is fit to play if and when needed. Unfortunately it doesn't look as if the loan deal is working out for Levi who admittedly has had limited chances to shine. A pity because he looks a handful and Mani will inevitably get suspended again.
Regarding Hogan he is still a very decent defender at this level and a good member of the squad, but he takes us back to within the penalty area rather than 20 yards up the pitch meaning we are far deeper than when EEL is on the pitch and the midfield has a lot more work to do. Maybe this is to protect a lack of pace but it allows the opposition to get defensively set.
Hopefully BJ is actively considering the CH position given the respective ages and the potential injury situation. |
With obvious hindsight, it was a missed opportunity not to try other players in that central position during pre-season.
The signing of Moss could have allowed us to see how Gordon did there for example. | |
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