| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 21:45 - Oct 1 with 3047 views | Edindale |
Wake up call tonight. Fair play to Halifax showing how dangerous sides can be when there is some complacency.
Didn't play badly but too much re-cycling and not enough end product in terms of shots. Too many players below par.
Hope that it motivates us for Saturday at FGR who only drew tonight.
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| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 21:50 - Oct 1 with 2976 views | Trev |
And we can still go top on Saturday with games in hand. Not a terrible performance but a result that felt like it was on the cards. | | | |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 21:51 - Oct 1 with 2961 views | 442Dale |
Starting both McBride and Barlow together was probably the bigger mistake than recalling Hogan but even so, we still deserved a point out of that game.
What it does show that if individuals do drop their levels a bit we can lose that assured look from our game. That allied to little details that come with different players coming in shows that we aren’t going to walk games. Thought Halifax were really good after a shaky start too and it’s a two team game, which actually made for good viewing for any neutral.
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| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 21:55 - Oct 1 with 2896 views | _Windydale |
I would like to see Berkoe start next week he's looked good, quick feet and full of energy.
On the whole though, too slow in the first half getting past the half-way line. Note really using the wings like we did at Carlilse
Thought we definitely missed Ebanks we might have done better defending their goals and threatened more with Rodney starting.
We can't play our best 11 all the time though. Beaten by a resolute defence | | | |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 21:59 - Oct 1 with 2853 views | dawlishdale |
Well played Halifax. We were the architects of our own downfall with the return of slow sideways build up from the back.
Got to say that the introduction of Hogan unsettled Gordon in particular whilst Alarakia was largely ineffective. I'd also say that either Mani had a poor game by his high standards or alternatively, he was superbly marked.
Agree that our two central midfielders were good, and the introduction of Rodney and Bercoe improved us. | | | |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 22:38 - Oct 1 with 2534 views | D_Alien |
Have to give Halifax some credit, we failed to match their energy and tempo for the first hour
After that, they were hanging on by their fingertips, but the most telling stat for me was that neither keeper had to make a save
Only a win on Saturday will make up for the disappointment of tonight |  |
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| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 22:45 - Oct 1 with 2452 views | NorthernDale |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 21:51 - Oct 1 by 442Dale |
Starting both McBride and Barlow together was probably the bigger mistake than recalling Hogan but even so, we still deserved a point out of that game.
What it does show that if individuals do drop their levels a bit we can lose that assured look from our game. That allied to little details that come with different players coming in shows that we aren’t going to walk games. Thought Halifax were really good after a shaky start too and it’s a two team game, which actually made for good viewing for any neutral.
Learn the lessons. Move on. |
I have to agree, McNulty made the mistake of dropping EEL, Rodney and Berkoe from the starting eleven, which seem to unsettle and even made the team disjointed. As stated McBride and Barlow are similar players and looked tiny against some of the big buggers Halifax had, the changes also seem to isolate Mani, in that he needs somebody like Rodney next to him and on his own, it allowed Halifax to effectively mark out of the game in the first half. No more needed to added about Hogans limitations, in comparison to EEL.
I will give McNulty credit, he recognise the mistakes by bringing on Rodney, EEL and Berkoe, on throughout the second half, which made us more competitive and allowed us to get back into the game, and we had the chances to get a equaliser in the second half. At least we are still second, with the chance to go top, if we beat Forest Green on Saturday and in truth the second half was a good game for the neutral and Halifax deserves praise for an excellent performance. [Post edited 1 Oct 22:49]
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| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 22:47 - Oct 1 with 2430 views | Clivert |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 21:14 - Oct 1 by Dale2017 |
What were the half time draw numbers |
There was a roll of eyes at the news of the changes again, I know that it's FG on Saturday but three points is three points in this league, saying that the second half performance was worthy of a point but that's what happens you put out your A-Team. |  | | |
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| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 22:50 - Oct 1 with 2388 views | dingdangblue |
I'm not blaming Hogan totally for the result because we created more than enough chances to at least not lose that game - but the 2 games Hogan has started we have lost both and conceded 2 for the only times this season. All will be forgotten if we beat Forest Green on Saturday - and we are definitely capable of a huge result down there. [Post edited 1 Oct 22:51]
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| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 22:50 - Oct 1 with 2383 views | 442Dale |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 22:45 - Oct 1 by NorthernDale |
I have to agree, McNulty made the mistake of dropping EEL, Rodney and Berkoe from the starting eleven, which seem to unsettle and even made the team disjointed. As stated McBride and Barlow are similar players and looked tiny against some of the big buggers Halifax had, the changes also seem to isolate Mani, in that he needs somebody like Rodney next to him and on his own, it allowed Halifax to effectively mark out of the game in the first half. No more needed to added about Hogans limitations, in comparison to EEL.
I will give McNulty credit, he recognise the mistakes by bringing on Rodney, EEL and Berkoe, on throughout the second half, which made us more competitive and allowed us to get back into the game, and we had the chances to get a equaliser in the second half. At least we are still second, with the chance to go top, if we beat Forest Green on Saturday and in truth the second half was a good game for the neutral and Halifax deserves praise for an excellent performance. [Post edited 1 Oct 22:49]
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Thought Mani was off form anyway, irrespective who was playing near him. One of those nights. | |
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| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 22:55 - Oct 1 with 2348 views | EllDale |
Not much to add to the above.
Dale looked a sharper after the introduction of Rodney.
A defeat had to come sooner or later.
If a midfielder scores twice though perhaps questions need to be asked about the marking? | | | |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 22:55 - Oct 1 with 2344 views | D_Alien |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 22:50 - Oct 1 by 442Dale |
Thought Mani was off form anyway, irrespective who was playing near him. One of those nights. |
He started the game really well, then got a talking to from the ref after a couple of niggly fouls
Halifax might rightly have been aggrieved that the first time one of theirs did the same, he got booked
After that, he went off the boil and was trying to walk his way through the penalty area instead of looking for a lay-off when in great positions | |
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| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 22:57 - Oct 1 with 2333 views | 442Dale |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 22:50 - Oct 1 by dingdangblue |
I'm not blaming Hogan totally for the result because we created more than enough chances to at least not lose that game - but the 2 games Hogan has started we have lost both and conceded 2 for the only times this season. All will be forgotten if we beat Forest Green on Saturday - and we are definitely capable of a huge result down there. [Post edited 1 Oct 22:51]
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That’s it for me too. I don’t think Hogan himself is bad, it’s that we’ve moved on and he doesn’t fit as well anymore.
There was talk last season of EEL after returning from his long layoff shouldn’t be replacing him, but it’s obvious now that we aren’t as effective with Hogan there. We won’t find these things out without seeing them, but that’s the lesson from tonight.
No need to go OTT and pile on to Hogan/the choice to play him because we can’t expect EEL to play every minute and there might have been reasons he needed a rest tonight. The longer term issue is we need (and probably already should have recruited in the summer) a central defender who can play centrally and on the left. That would have covered Beckwith better too. | |
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| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 23:18 - Oct 1 with 2206 views | pioneer |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 22:47 - Oct 1 by Clivert |
There was a roll of eyes at the news of the changes again, I know that it's FG on Saturday but three points is three points in this league, saying that the second half performance was worthy of a point but that's what happens you put out your A-Team. |
This time he changed the winning line up for a home game against our local rival. Any newcomers attracted by the big game and recent run will be put off again. | | | |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 23:25 - Oct 1 with 2157 views | 442Dale |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 23:18 - Oct 1 by pioneer |
This time he changed the winning line up for a home game against our local rival. Any newcomers attracted by the big game and recent run will be put off again. |
Any newcomers will hardly have noticed the details of team changes as they’re new!
If you’re a football fan, wanting to support your local team who are doing well and you turn up and watch them lose a hard fought game, one that they probably deserved to draw, then I’m not sure what more you can ask for.
As regulars we will all get annoyed with things that can be better, but floating fans can’t be expecting Dale to win every week. Putting in a shift, playing reasonably well, a decent game to watch and winning most of the time at the moment. To expect more is to ignore the frustrations of sport. | |
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| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 23:29 - Oct 1 with 2142 views | D_Alien |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 23:25 - Oct 1 by 442Dale |
Any newcomers will hardly have noticed the details of team changes as they’re new!
If you’re a football fan, wanting to support your local team who are doing well and you turn up and watch them lose a hard fought game, one that they probably deserved to draw, then I’m not sure what more you can ask for.
As regulars we will all get annoyed with things that can be better, but floating fans can’t be expecting Dale to win every week. Putting in a shift, playing reasonably well, a decent game to watch and winning most of the time at the moment. To expect more is to ignore the frustrations of sport. |
The frustrations of sport will apply mainly to the regulars
As you say, the details of the changes may well have passed the newcomers by, so all they'll have seen was us getting beat - albeit unluckily - and the gloating opposition fans marching off to the station with their egos massaged | |
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| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 23:32 - Oct 1 with 2099 views | 442Dale |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 23:29 - Oct 1 by D_Alien |
The frustrations of sport will apply mainly to the regulars
As you say, the details of the changes may well have passed the newcomers by, so all they'll have seen was us getting beat - albeit unluckily - and the gloating opposition fans marching off to the station with their egos massaged |
And if we want them to become regulars they will have to get used to that because we will have a spell when we have a bad season again in the future. That’s being a football fan.
The issue is to get the core fanbase up so that when we are rubbish, 3000 fans want to turn up every week, win/lose/draw. | |
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| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 23:40 - Oct 1 with 2060 views | dingdangblue |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 21:55 - Oct 1 by _Windydale |
I would like to see Berkoe start next week he's looked good, quick feet and full of energy.
On the whole though, too slow in the first half getting past the half-way line. Note really using the wings like we did at Carlilse
Thought we definitely missed Ebanks we might have done better defending their goals and threatened more with Rodney starting.
We can't play our best 11 all the time though. Beaten by a resolute defence |
We can't play our best eleven for every game but it is a worry that the 2 games we haven't started our strongest available team we've now lost them both. Yes we did more than enough to get at least a point tonight - but it is still a worry going forward. | |
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| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 23:55 - Oct 1 with 1994 views | TVOS1907 |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 23:29 - Oct 1 by D_Alien |
The frustrations of sport will apply mainly to the regulars
As you say, the details of the changes may well have passed the newcomers by, so all they'll have seen was us getting beat - albeit unluckily - and the gloating opposition fans marching off to the station with their egos massaged |
What if they came on EllDale's bus? |  |
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| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 00:02 - Oct 2 with 1966 views | mikehunt |
I think Jim got the team selection tonight, wrong. If our best starting eleven were fit, why didn't we start with them, instead of chucking them on when the game had gone.
Surely it is more logical to try and build a lead then bring the players off to save their legs. We ballsed up at Brackley like this and did it again tonight. Perhaps now we'll learn? |  |
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| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 00:15 - Oct 2 with 1919 views | dingdangblue |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 00:02 - Oct 2 by mikehunt |
I think Jim got the team selection tonight, wrong. If our best starting eleven were fit, why didn't we start with them, instead of chucking them on when the game had gone.
Surely it is more logical to try and build a lead then bring the players off to save their legs. We ballsed up at Brackley like this and did it again tonight. Perhaps now we'll learn? |
I said that to my mates at the game - we probably exerted ourselves more in the last 30 minutes trying to chase the game than if we'd started our strongest team and gone 2-0 up. Jim will never say 'I was wrong' - infact post match he mentioned something about a sickness bug and 'managing' Dev's fitness as to why players were 'rested'. 9 wins from 11 games is still a brilliant start and the players all know a win on Saturday takes us back top and it would be massive psychologically beating Forest Green and ending their unbeaten run. All to play for. | |
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| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 00:17 - Oct 2 with 1918 views | Sandyman |
Some very reasonable points made tonight after a rare home defeat.
Halifax deserve credit for ensuring the ball was nipped away from our feet on many occasions in the first half. Great energy and commitment, which threw us.
Dale deserve credit for a proper fighting second half (and wise subs by Jim). The chances just didn't go in tonight.
We've won 9 lost 2 which is astonishing form. We can see the errors in team selection that cost us the defeats. I hope Jim can too. Sheet happens, but not that much these days. Still 2nd in the league with games in hand.  Tonight's visitors have played two games more with six points less.  UP THE DALE |  | | |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 00:48 - Oct 2 with 1846 views | EllDale |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 23:55 - Oct 1 by TVOS1907 |
What if they came on EllDale's bus? |
The one I got (14.50 from Halifax) was pretty empty. Not a Halifax Town fan in sight. | | | |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 06:05 - Oct 2 with 1590 views | D_Alien |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 23:55 - Oct 1 by TVOS1907 |
What if they came on EllDale's bus? |
I meant the police station | |
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| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 06:49 - Oct 2 with 1514 views | Dale_4_Life |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v FC Halifax Town on 21:55 - Oct 1 by _Windydale |
I would like to see Berkoe start next week he's looked good, quick feet and full of energy.
On the whole though, too slow in the first half getting past the half-way line. Note really using the wings like we did at Carlilse
Thought we definitely missed Ebanks we might have done better defending their goals and threatened more with Rodney starting.
We can't play our best 11 all the time though. Beaten by a resolute defence |
We cant play our best 11 every week but we can play our best available 11.
Last night Jim got it wrong.. looking at the team sheet it looked unbalanced and so it proved.
Hogan is just to slow now physically, mentally and execution.
Gordon has a tough game closed down half a dozen times by the hard working Halifax players.
Tarryn needs to spend a week cutting inside some cones on the training ground and deciding how to shoot underneath the bar not blazing it high and wide.
Mani isolated with 2 or 3 defenders snapping at his heels.. was his disallowed goal handball? it happened very quickly it was probably the right decision.
Rodney and EEL should have started. Its at home in our local Derby with valuable 3 points on offer. As mentioned previously by others the energy expunged in the last 30 minutes makes rotation and supposed rest nonsense.
On a positive note Dale could easily have got something from last night despite going 2-0 down. The midweek home crowd was up and we did get an entertaining game. This side still learning and i think we will see a big reaction on Saturday and a performance to match.
9 wins from 11 and a massive top of the table clash at the weekend. Bring that on. [Post edited 2 Oct 6:49]
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