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Kone - too slow to go? 10:12 - Oct 7 with 3671 viewsWiliiamBlakeWasAnR

We all agree he's great, talented, a right handful, fantastic attitude, lucky to have him. Also, that he won't be around for long, moving on to bigger and better things within a season or two.

Just wondering though whether his lack of pace will mean that he stays in the Championship and that if we start to do well with him, he stays with us for longer than expected.

I don't watch much Prem football, but I can't think off the top of my head any slow strikers who have thrived there? Even Kane had a bit of pace. Basically, against Championship CBs, a lack of pace in a striker isn't a chronic problem. Against Prem ones, it is. Maybe this is just wishful thinking!

(Btw, as an athletics coach, I'm constantly shocked at how many pro footballers have awful sprinting technique, when marginal gains are the thing. Baffling that no clubs are onto this. It would be easy to get another yard of pace out of Kone in half a season of drills!)
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Kone - too slow to go? on 10:16 - Oct 7 with 2617 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

Is he slow? I/m not sure sure.

That aside, as ever, he wouldn't be here if was perfect. I'm happy to the Prem to ignore him.
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Kone - too slow to go? on 10:18 - Oct 7 with 2601 viewsHoopsie

He may be slow but he has fantastic positional play and shooting accuracy that may see him thrive in the PL.

If he scored 20 goals for us I can see he will be gone to the PL in a whiff. Surely?

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Kone - too slow to go? on 10:18 - Oct 7 with 2599 viewsdmm

You may be right, and not only because of a lack of pace but also not the best first touch. He's still a very good Championship striker and at 22 has plenty of time to develop but I could see his next move being to a relegated Prem team rather than a promoted or existing one.
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Kone - too slow to go? on 10:28 - Oct 7 with 2472 viewsRBlock

Chris Wood has made a decent fist of it. Mateta, Ivan Toney, Awoniyi. Going back a bit (and obviously talking about some ridiculous talents) but Robin Van Persie (certainly at Utd) wasn't particularly quick, Ruud Van Nistlerooy, Berbatov, Andy Carroll.

Agree he could probably work on a bit more explosive speed and acceleration over a couple of yards, but with his movement and strength he's got all the tools to make the step up when the opportunity comes.
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Kone - too slow to go? on 11:03 - Oct 7 with 2280 viewssdm1508

He seems to be quite a unit and I don't think he is up to full sharpness yet. I think that will come. Although not the quickest, his positional sense and movement get him into good positions so not having all out pace doesn't matter in this league. He is also very strong and once on the ball you aren't getting him off easily which again helps. Sometimes his first touch is wanting but I always thought that once he has the ball at his feet, he has good close control, which allows him to get half a yard
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Kone - too slow to go? on 11:06 - Oct 7 with 2222 viewsstainrods_elbow

He's not the quickest, but not the slowest, but he can/does come alive in the box, and four goals already is a decent return.

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Kone - too slow to go? on 11:09 - Oct 7 with 2236 viewsNorthernr

It's just nice to have to people up front who know what they're doing. What comes next I'll worry about in time. I'm going into games more relaxed and confident now because with those two strikers we'll always have an opportunity to get something out of it.
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Kone - too slow to go? on 11:12 - Oct 7 with 2190 viewsBoston

He's a natural striker, doesn't need pace. Knows where to be and where the goal is.

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Kone - too slow to go? on 11:15 - Oct 7 with 2163 viewsLblock

The first two yards of pace are in your head.

Ollie Watkins is much faster than Harry Kane.
I know which one I'd want in my side.

If Kone could do the 100metres in 9 seconds then he'd be at Real Madrid.
My own opinion on Kone is I think he's still got lots to give and is playing his way into the Championship..... that is a good thing.

Cherish and enjoy life.... this ain't no dress rehearsal

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Kone - too slow to go? on 11:30 - Oct 7 with 2081 viewsBacon

Kone - too slow to go? on 10:28 - Oct 7 by RBlock

Chris Wood has made a decent fist of it. Mateta, Ivan Toney, Awoniyi. Going back a bit (and obviously talking about some ridiculous talents) but Robin Van Persie (certainly at Utd) wasn't particularly quick, Ruud Van Nistlerooy, Berbatov, Andy Carroll.

Agree he could probably work on a bit more explosive speed and acceleration over a couple of yards, but with his movement and strength he's got all the tools to make the step up when the opportunity comes.


That made me chuckle, Andy Carroll in the same list as Van Persie, Nistlerooy and Berbatov :)
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Kone - too slow to go? on 11:33 - Oct 7 with 2043 viewsolderR

We have tried this before.Ron Jones, olympic sprinter started his time at Rangers in the late 60s assisting at training.
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Kone - too slow to go? on 11:34 - Oct 7 with 2033 viewsWiliiamBlakeWasAnR

I think he's brilliant, long may he stay. Have no issue with his first touch or anything else.

I'm grateful that he isn't Burrell-fast, otherwise he'd be gone in January.

I just think his lack of pace will be a ceiling for him and instead of the Prem, he's going to be an amazing Championship striker for quite a few seasons, hopefully with us.
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Kone - too slow to go? on 11:37 - Oct 7 with 1999 viewsrobith

look, he's not even played 10 games for us yet so I don't quite want to be signing away his future just yet.

But the Prem game is undergoing an evolution and direct is back. Kone's physicality, lay up play (very underrated part of his game imo) and shooting accuracy seem things that will high high stocks soon
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Kone - too slow to go? on 11:47 - Oct 7 with 1912 viewsPetros

Kone - too slow to go? on 11:09 - Oct 7 by Northernr

It's just nice to have to people up front who know what they're doing. What comes next I'll worry about in time. I'm going into games more relaxed and confident now because with those two strikers we'll always have an opportunity to get something out of it.


Plus two plausible assisters - Vale and Madsen.
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Kone - too slow to go? on 11:55 - Oct 7 with 1869 viewsMyke

I think himself and Burrell complement each other. Burrell as we know, has pace to burn, but lacks Kone's clinical finishing. Both of them have provided decent chances for each other that have been spurned. I think once they develop a better understanding together they will be very potent. I can see us scoring a lot of goals, without too many clean sheets. Exciting times
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Kone - too slow to go? on 12:04 - Oct 7 with 1786 viewsDavieQPR

Burrell is fast and does everything but shoot. Still think he gets in Kone's space and should only be a sub. Vale behind Kone for me. A Striker strikes otherwise they are an attacker.
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Kone - too slow to go? on 12:07 - Oct 7 with 1762 viewssparkey

Kone - too slow to go? on 12:04 - Oct 7 by DavieQPR

Burrell is fast and does everything but shoot. Still think he gets in Kone's space and should only be a sub. Vale behind Kone for me. A Striker strikes otherwise they are an attacker.


Not sure I agree.

Burrell has caused defences sooo many issues since he's joined us. Him and Kone compliment each other very well in my opinion. Even last game Kone set Burrell off on his bike in the second half, before he laid it off to Kone (who eventually mishit it). Even Burrell's pressing alone has made such a massive difference that I dont think anyone else in the team is half capable of doing so well.

However I do think Vale is a very good player so i guess I half agree.

Good problems to have
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Kone - too slow to go? on 12:08 - Oct 7 with 1742 viewsNorthernr

Kone - too slow to go? on 12:07 - Oct 7 by sparkey

Not sure I agree.

Burrell has caused defences sooo many issues since he's joined us. Him and Kone compliment each other very well in my opinion. Even last game Kone set Burrell off on his bike in the second half, before he laid it off to Kone (who eventually mishit it). Even Burrell's pressing alone has made such a massive difference that I dont think anyone else in the team is half capable of doing so well.

However I do think Vale is a very good player so i guess I half agree.

Good problems to have


Yeh, they're a good pair.
Without Burrell against oxford we went back to the problem of last few seasons - far too bloody slow.
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Kone - too slow to go? on 12:10 - Oct 7 with 1714 viewsWiliiamBlakeWasAnR

Kone - too slow to go? on 12:07 - Oct 7 by sparkey

Not sure I agree.

Burrell has caused defences sooo many issues since he's joined us. Him and Kone compliment each other very well in my opinion. Even last game Kone set Burrell off on his bike in the second half, before he laid it off to Kone (who eventually mishit it). Even Burrell's pressing alone has made such a massive difference that I dont think anyone else in the team is half capable of doing so well.

However I do think Vale is a very good player so i guess I half agree.

Good problems to have


Yep, great problem to have.

I'd play Vale behind Kone in Oxford/ Sheff Wed type games, when sides sit deep trying to get a point. No space for pace then.

Kone and Burrell in most other games.
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Kone - too slow to go? on 12:33 - Oct 7 with 1569 viewskingsburyR

Ahhhhhhhh I can see what you're all doing!!!

Yeah, he's crap!


Dont know why we bother. .... but we do!

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Kone - too slow to go? on 12:41 - Oct 7 with 1500 viewssprocket

Charlie Austin did not have pace but fantastic ability to score goals. Kone will be fine when he gets to the EPL
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Kone - too slow to go? on 13:10 - Oct 7 with 1342 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

Are we seriously accepting that he's slow?

Genuinely don't see it.

Had to check. He uses his pace plenty in these videos.

I'm worried that the myth will overtake the truth.

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Kone - too slow to go? on 13:13 - Oct 7 with 1329 viewsCiderwithRsie

Kone - too slow to go? on 12:41 - Oct 7 by sprocket

Charlie Austin did not have pace but fantastic ability to score goals. Kone will be fine when he gets to the EPL


Austin was the example that sprang to my mind.

I don't think anyone (outside of QPR at least) would be mentioning his name in the same list as Van Persie either, but he did pretty damn well in the Premiership playing in a poor side with a crap manager.

I wouldn't be sneering at Andy Carroll either, it was an era when there were loads of prolific Premier League goals scorers, every team needed one to thrive, and he a good job for the teams he played for.

From that era Kevin Phillips did have pace but he's sort of a case study of someone who had a very good career even if he didn't spend it at so-called elite clubs.
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Kone - too slow to go? on 13:15 - Oct 7 with 1312 viewskensalriser

What exactly is a yard of pace? It needs to be qualified otherwise it makes as much sense as a pint of gravity.

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Kone - too slow to go? on 13:29 - Oct 7 with 1225 viewsgazza1

He is nowhere near Premiership standard.......it is about pace but much, much more - think ability.
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