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Hammersmith Flyover 09:02 - Oct 9 with 4697 viewscolinallcars

Plans to demolish it and replace it with a tunnel which it should have been in the first place.
I think the traffic may be rather rather heavy during construction. (ahem).
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Hammersmith Flyover on 13:02 - Oct 9 with 1386 viewsnick_hammersmith

Hammersmith Flyover on 09:56 - Oct 9 by TheChef

Although back to the OP - why? Is the flyover structurally unsound?

Seems like a whole load of faff otherwise.


The steel inside it is rusty.
A few years back they fitted some external exo-skeleton to the underside to hold it together.

You can see them when you are stuck in traffic on Butterwick
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Hammersmith Flyover on 13:08 - Oct 9 with 1347 viewsTheChef

Hammersmith Flyover on 12:50 - Oct 9 by stevec

That sounds like common sense. Not that you’ll get any sane thinking from the brain dead morons involved in the infrastructure of this part of London.

Drove the 17 miles from Epsom to the Hogarth roundabout in 45 minutes last week, completed the final 3 miles to Park Royal in another 45 minutes. West London is a complete fck up.

As said above it feels like we’re being overseen by aliens determined to bring mankind to its knees.


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Hammersmith Flyover on 13:18 - Oct 9 with 1277 viewsThird_Division_South

My Nan and Granddad were moved from their home on the westway, opposite the White City stadium so that the flyover could be built. There was a great long standing community where they lived but they got shipped out to Barnes and they lost all that.
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Hammersmith Flyover on 13:28 - Oct 9 with 1241 viewsnick_hammersmith

Hammersmith Flyover on 13:18 - Oct 9 by Third_Division_South

My Nan and Granddad were moved from their home on the westway, opposite the White City stadium so that the flyover could be built. There was a great long standing community where they lived but they got shipped out to Barnes and they lost all that.


Still, when they shut Hammersmith Bridge I bet Barnes village had an upturn in property prices!

When my Nans old house in the Bush was damaged in the war the council offered her somewhere in Notting Hill.

Oh for a view of the future back then, I could've inherited a fortune!
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Hammersmith Flyover on 13:42 - Oct 9 with 1187 viewshubble

My junior school was (still is) almost directly under the Hammersmith flyover. Fabulous air quality, especially pre-unleaded petrol.

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Hammersmith Flyover on 15:31 - Oct 9 with 995 viewsstowmarketrange

Hammersmith Flyover on 13:28 - Oct 9 by nick_hammersmith

Still, when they shut Hammersmith Bridge I bet Barnes village had an upturn in property prices!

When my Nans old house in the Bush was damaged in the war the council offered her somewhere in Notting Hill.

Oh for a view of the future back then, I could've inherited a fortune!


The same thing happened with my parents house in Battersea.One side of the street was demolished to build tower blocks and houses on the other side of the street now go for £1 million+.
Lucky me or I could’ve been a millionaire knuckle dragger.
[Post edited 9 Oct 15:33]
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Hammersmith Flyover on 16:06 - Oct 9 with 912 viewsqpr_1968

perhaps they might fill in latimer road again....
from the old latimer arms to latimer road station.

steptoe might make a comeback.

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Hammersmith Flyover on 16:11 - Oct 9 with 893 viewscolinallcars

Hammersmith Flyover on 16:06 - Oct 9 by qpr_1968

perhaps they might fill in latimer road again....
from the old latimer arms to latimer road station.

steptoe might make a comeback.


And the glorious fish n chip shop opposite the British Volunteer.
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Hammersmith Flyover on 16:26 - Oct 9 with 856 viewsqpr_1968

Hammersmith Flyover on 16:11 - Oct 9 by colinallcars

And the glorious fish n chip shop opposite the British Volunteer.


mauds....virtually next door to the vol....

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Hammersmith Flyover on 16:32 - Oct 9 with 800 viewsPlanetHonneywood

Hammersmith Flyover on 13:00 - Oct 9 by nick_hammersmith

"Temporary" structure opened the year I was born!!


I was wondering if you might feel the need to change your moniker nick_hammersmith_flyover?

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Hammersmith Flyover on 17:18 - Oct 9 with 739 viewsqpr_1968

Hammersmith Flyover on 13:42 - Oct 9 by hubble

My junior school was (still is) almost directly under the Hammersmith flyover. Fabulous air quality, especially pre-unleaded petrol.


going to oxford gardens school all through the 60's, watched all them houses demolished and that motorway built.
if it goes ahead, i'll be watching in reverse....exept the houses will be all them high rise monstrocities.

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Hammersmith Flyover on 17:48 - Oct 9 with 694 viewsnick_hammersmith

Hammersmith Flyover on 15:31 - Oct 9 by stowmarketrange

The same thing happened with my parents house in Battersea.One side of the street was demolished to build tower blocks and houses on the other side of the street now go for £1 million+.
Lucky me or I could’ve been a millionaire knuckle dragger.
[Post edited 9 Oct 15:33]


Yep, we didn't have to worry about inheritance tax in East Acton!
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Hammersmith Flyover on 17:50 - Oct 9 with 688 viewsted_hendrix

Long time rumour that there are, more like we're a couple of Paddy's In the concrete columns.
The original build cost was £1.2 million.

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Hammersmith Flyover on 18:30 - Oct 9 with 625 viewsTonto

So.... some ITK knowledge:

The S40 is part of the TRLN, i.e. managed by TfL not H&F.

TfL undertook a bunch of feasibility studies back when Boris was mayor which looked into tunnelling parts of the A40 as one of his big ideas to ease congestion. Lets just say that the outcome of those studies was not particularly positive.

Ive not seen this proposal come back. It was simply too expensive, so Im a little surprised to see it here. It seems to come from H&F's local plan, which is all well and good, but as i said earlier its not their road, so that effectively meansdiddly squat. Im surprised the inspector allowed it in the plan as its unachievable. I wouldnt be holding your breath, even though the existing structure is a toothpicks and sellotape job that are akin to Chris Willock's hammy.

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Hammersmith Flyover on 18:35 - Oct 9 with 613 viewsTonto

Ok found this... https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c24r0z812zno.amp

And the key words are that TfL.have no plans. So i was right for once!

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Hammersmith Flyover on 22:04 - Oct 9 with 465 viewsKerryE

Hammersmith Flyover on 10:22 - Oct 9 by KensalT

It's a proposal in a 15-year Local Plan that the council hopes to have adopted by 2027:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c24r0z812zno

So even if it gets adopted it's probably at least a decade away.

The key line is probably:

"dubbed a "flyunder", would release land for development"

So the lost Victorian street plan would be replaced by blocks of flats!

I have no idea how much a tunnel would cost but they're not cheap. It would probably need significant redevelopment of Hammersmith to help pay for it.

And shouldn't they sort out the bridge first!?

For anyone who lives in the borough and is interested in the 15 year plan there's more information here:

https://www.lbhf.gov.uk/planning/planning-policy/local-plan

PS:

Having taken a quick glance at the plan it seems to also include the Broadway Centre in the proposed redevelopment:

"Hammersmith Flyover, A4 and adjoining land (HRA3) - to include A4 land running from Colet Gardens in the east to the Cromwell avenue underpass in the west. Includes the Hammersmith Gyratory, the Broadway Centre, the area south of Black’s Road to Hammersmith Bridge Road, the British Transport Police Station and adjacent land to the east on Talgarth Road, the Ark and West London Magistrates Court. "
[Post edited 9 Oct 10:29]


Section 54 page 56 is a bit interesting …..”if Loftus Road comes forward for redevelopment the council will seek residential development….with re-provision of community facilities and open spaces within borough….” roughly is what it says.

What does this mean?
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Hammersmith Flyover on 22:16 - Oct 9 with 444 viewsstevec

Hammersmith Flyover on 16:26 - Oct 9 by qpr_1968

mauds....virtually next door to the vol....


If there’s anything you could bring back from the past, I’d want it to be that fish and chip shop.
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Hammersmith Flyover on 22:23 - Oct 9 with 426 viewsqpr_1968

Hammersmith Flyover on 22:16 - Oct 9 by stevec

If there’s anything you could bring back from the past, I’d want it to be that fish and chip shop.


same as......

george putting the fish in the batter.....
maud serving the fish, crinkley chips fresh out that machine, and crackling in newspaper...the odd pickled onion.
and that was that....no other
the son peter out back doing what he did.

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Hammersmith Flyover on 22:28 - Oct 9 with 398 viewscolinallcars

Hammersmith Flyover on 22:23 - Oct 9 by qpr_1968

same as......

george putting the fish in the batter.....
maud serving the fish, crinkley chips fresh out that machine, and crackling in newspaper...the odd pickled onion.
and that was that....no other
the son peter out back doing what he did.


I was there one night when a Roller or a Bentley drew up. The chauffeur got out, queued up, got the fish and taters and handed it to the bloke in the back of the car.
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Hammersmith Flyover on 22:35 - Oct 9 with 382 viewsqpr_1968

Hammersmith Flyover on 22:28 - Oct 9 by colinallcars

I was there one night when a Roller or a Bentley drew up. The chauffeur got out, queued up, got the fish and taters and handed it to the bloke in the back of the car.


regular friday night occurance.

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Hammersmith Flyover on 22:43 - Oct 9 with 366 viewscolinallcars

When it shut down, someone recommended a shop in Marylebone which was almost as good.
I think the best one I ever went to though was Colmans in South Shields.
They have pictures on the wall of famous bods who have visited. One was Tony Blair.
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Hammersmith Flyover on 22:47 - Oct 9 with 361 viewsqpr_1968

Hammersmith Flyover on 22:43 - Oct 9 by colinallcars

When it shut down, someone recommended a shop in Marylebone which was almost as good.
I think the best one I ever went to though was Colmans in South Shields.
They have pictures on the wall of famous bods who have visited. One was Tony Blair.


lovely old fish shop in south shields called, ironicaly , latymers.....lovely bit of naked cod.

always went there when we played sunderland away.

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Hammersmith Flyover on 23:01 - Oct 9 with 319 viewsted_hendrix

Hammersmith Flyover on 22:47 - Oct 9 by qpr_1968

lovely old fish shop in south shields called, ironicaly , latymers.....lovely bit of naked cod.

always went there when we played sunderland away.


Grimsby away, £1 for cod and chips In a box. (while ago mind).

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Hammersmith Flyover on 23:10 - Oct 9 with 293 viewsqpr_1968

Hammersmith Flyover on 23:01 - Oct 9 by ted_hendrix

Grimsby away, £1 for cod and chips In a box. (while ago mind).


have'nt been to grimsby since 1981, last away ground before i got married.
would have been off me nut.

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Hammersmith Flyover on 23:30 - Oct 9 with 267 viewsTonto

Hammersmith Flyover on 22:04 - Oct 9 by KerryE

Section 54 page 56 is a bit interesting …..”if Loftus Road comes forward for redevelopment the council will seek residential development….with re-provision of community facilities and open spaces within borough….” roughly is what it says.

What does this mean?


Its standard modern planning talk.

All new developments have to provide some element of open space for people to be able to go outside and sit, wlak etc. This can be as simple as some patches of grass or something like the back of the BBC development with the playground. Its nothing unusual.

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