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Is Swansea really one of the UK's worst cities to live in? 21:02 - Oct 12 with 1916 viewsAnotherJohn

Can't agree with this ranking, although I agree we may have a drug problem.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/lived-welsh-city-dubbed-one-326523

And the Demos/PwC Good for Growth Index 2025 in full here:

https://www.pwc.co.uk/industries/government-public-sector/good-growth.html
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Is Swansea really one of the UK's worst cities to live in? on 21:33 - Oct 12 with 1862 viewsbuilthjack

Drugs are a big problem everywhere. The police seem to turn a blind eye.
How about £100 on the spot fine for anyone smoking cannabis, and a £500 on the spot fine for anyone caught using cocaine.
Walk down a high street and you can smell cannabis, so they are easy to catch.
Go to any club toilet and see them using cocaine. £500 each time.

Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.

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Is Swansea really one of the UK's worst cities to live in? on 21:41 - Oct 12 with 1860 viewsEagleEye

Negative scores on the PwC index for jobs, income, health, new business and the environment. Can’t really argue with that. The area has lost all the well paid industrial jobs replaced by failed call centres, fast food outlets and over reliance on public sector jobs. Can’t help but point the finger at devolution as the thriving industries & commercial city centre hubs have been decimated since the hey days of the 70s & 80s.

Still surprised to see the city in the bottom 10 with thriving cities like Liverpool, Manchester & Newcastle. Can’t help but question the scoring criteria.

You don’t have to go far to see the drug problem in many areas of the city and the city centre which is essentially a series of building sites for ‘student’ accommodation
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Is Swansea really one of the UK's worst cities to live in? on 07:05 - Oct 13 with 1759 viewsDr_Winston

Good Lord no. Has its problems along with most other cities, but an affordable housing market, fantastic location, wide variety of bars and restaurants make up for a lot. Some people will point to a fairly limited shopping scene, but traditional brick and mortar retail is dying on its arse everywhere and a lot of cities that have heavily invested in retail space will be struggling to fill it soon. For once Swansea Council is ahead of the curve.

It's not a particularly wealthy city which given that its highest level of local Government is more interested in developing somewhere else probably isn't a shock, and it is overly reliant on public sector and other service industry work, but that is offset by the reality that a three bedroom family home can easily be purchased for less than £150,000. Try doing that in London, Manchester, Bristol etc.

Drug use is also a nuisance, be it the anti-social behaviour or acquisitive crime that goes along with it, but a high drugs death rate would be of no concern to anyone who does not use them. Indeed, a bad batch of heroin can be a net good for society.
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Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Is Swansea really one of the UK's worst cities to live in? on 07:54 - Oct 13 with 1736 views1983

Is Swansea really one of the UK's worst cities to live in? on 07:05 - Oct 13 by Dr_Winston

Good Lord no. Has its problems along with most other cities, but an affordable housing market, fantastic location, wide variety of bars and restaurants make up for a lot. Some people will point to a fairly limited shopping scene, but traditional brick and mortar retail is dying on its arse everywhere and a lot of cities that have heavily invested in retail space will be struggling to fill it soon. For once Swansea Council is ahead of the curve.

It's not a particularly wealthy city which given that its highest level of local Government is more interested in developing somewhere else probably isn't a shock, and it is overly reliant on public sector and other service industry work, but that is offset by the reality that a three bedroom family home can easily be purchased for less than £150,000. Try doing that in London, Manchester, Bristol etc.

Drug use is also a nuisance, be it the anti-social behaviour or acquisitive crime that goes along with it, but a high drugs death rate would be of no concern to anyone who does not use them. Indeed, a bad batch of heroin can be a net good for society.
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Swansea is a great place to live and will in time get better a bit rough on the edges but a lot worse places in the UK...Drugs are "everywhere" the genie is well and truly out of the bottle on that and as for city centres in the UK they are now becoming the new park bench because there is no use for them anymore.

Swansea has the coast, countryside, cheaper housing, friendly (or as my mam says nosey) neighbours. After living away from Swansea for 20yrs one thing I will say about some people from Swansea is they are good at putting themselves down and the litter, rubbish problem is shocking

Swansea has been really badly managed since the early 00's

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Is Swansea really one of the UK's worst cities to live in? on 08:09 - Oct 13 with 1700 viewslifelong

Wouldn’t want to live anywhere else.
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Is Swansea really one of the UK's worst cities to live in? on 08:35 - Oct 13 with 1650 viewsgrabsplatter

Is Swansea really one of the UK's worst cities to live in? on 07:54 - Oct 13 by 1983

Swansea is a great place to live and will in time get better a bit rough on the edges but a lot worse places in the UK...Drugs are "everywhere" the genie is well and truly out of the bottle on that and as for city centres in the UK they are now becoming the new park bench because there is no use for them anymore.

Swansea has the coast, countryside, cheaper housing, friendly (or as my mam says nosey) neighbours. After living away from Swansea for 20yrs one thing I will say about some people from Swansea is they are good at putting themselves down and the litter, rubbish problem is shocking

Swansea has been really badly managed since the early 00's


I can't believe we're one of the worst cities to live in either, that's not the reality that I see.
Swansea has indeed been badly managed & previous council leaders have a lot to answer for but the current administration are doing a really good job at putting some of that right in my view - but it'll take time.
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Is Swansea really one of the UK's worst cities to live in? on 09:33 - Oct 13 with 1613 viewsjohnlangy

Is Swansea really one of the UK's worst cities to live in? on 08:35 - Oct 13 by grabsplatter

I can't believe we're one of the worst cities to live in either, that's not the reality that I see.
Swansea has indeed been badly managed & previous council leaders have a lot to answer for but the current administration are doing a really good job at putting some of that right in my view - but it'll take time.


Well put.

I've said many times to my wife that the city centre, which is very run down, will get a massive boost when the Kingsway and Princess way developments are full. They will bring about 700 well paid jobs right into the City Centre and it's only when there are more people there with money to spend that business will thrive. Following on from that will be the St Davids centre redevelopment which will bring even more.

There's also the Hub on the old BHS site. That will also draw a large number of extra people into the centre.
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Is Swansea really one of the UK's worst cities to live in? on 09:50 - Oct 13 with 1574 viewsDr_Winston

Is Swansea really one of the UK's worst cities to live in? on 09:33 - Oct 13 by johnlangy

Well put.

I've said many times to my wife that the city centre, which is very run down, will get a massive boost when the Kingsway and Princess way developments are full. They will bring about 700 well paid jobs right into the City Centre and it's only when there are more people there with money to spend that business will thrive. Following on from that will be the St Davids centre redevelopment which will bring even more.

There's also the Hub on the old BHS site. That will also draw a large number of extra people into the centre.


The benefits of the office space developments may be overstated. Some of the prospective tenants I've seen are just relocating from elsewhere in the city, no doubt for beneficial introductory rates.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Is Swansea really one of the UK's worst cities to live in? on 10:04 - Oct 13 with 1541 viewstrampie

Spent a couple of days in Swansea back in the summer, I was shocked at how run down and bad the place is and i said so on here, people not from Swansea with no axe to grind have noted the same thing.
I was surprised at the amount of boarded up shops and even stalls closed in the market.
I know Kardiff people think Swansea jacks are gypsies and when you have horses running around council estates you can see why, when that Cardiff bloke did the vlog of the Dyfatty area it was shocking but when he went back to do the city centre, a musher who had a business by the Dragon Hotel roundabout area (he seemed a tidy boy) told him that he had been working in Ponty (Pontypridd) and their town centre had more going on (words to that effect) than Swansea town centre.
At least Swansea scored better than Liverpool which is a bench mark for poor performance (crime/poverty etc).

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Is Swansea really one of the UK's worst cities to live in? on 11:04 - Oct 13 with 1477 viewsWhiterockin

Is Swansea really one of the UK's worst cities to live in? on 08:35 - Oct 13 by grabsplatter

I can't believe we're one of the worst cities to live in either, that's not the reality that I see.
Swansea has indeed been badly managed & previous council leaders have a lot to answer for but the current administration are doing a really good job at putting some of that right in my view - but it'll take time.


Swansea is like many Cities has fantastic areas and facilities, then there are areas lacking so much where the majority would not wish to live. We seem to live in our own bubbles and rarely enter into the other way of life. Those more affluent enjoy an excellent quality of life in Swansea housing, schools, restaurants, theatre and concerts ect. While those less fortunate struggle to just make ends meet and only look at the other bubble from the outside. I don't think many actually realise how the other half live, be it fortunate or less so. If you get the opportunity talk to someone in public service ambulance medics/police and your eyes will really open whatever social background you are.
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Is Swansea really one of the UK's worst cities to live in? on 11:29 - Oct 13 with 1442 viewsjohnlangy

Is Swansea really one of the UK's worst cities to live in? on 09:50 - Oct 13 by Dr_Winston

The benefits of the office space developments may be overstated. Some of the prospective tenants I've seen are just relocating from elsewhere in the city, no doubt for beneficial introductory rates.


You are right Dr. Some are just relocating. But there are new ones. TUI for example. AFAIK the are new.
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Is Swansea really one of the UK's worst cities to live in? on 11:35 - Oct 13 with 1436 viewsraynor94

Is Swansea really one of the UK's worst cities to live in? on 11:29 - Oct 13 by johnlangy

You are right Dr. Some are just relocating. But there are new ones. TUI for example. AFAIK the are new.


Tui were in Mariner Street

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Is Swansea really one of the UK's worst cities to live in? on 12:48 - Oct 13 with 1376 viewsgrabsplatter

Is Swansea really one of the UK's worst cities to live in? on 11:04 - Oct 13 by Whiterockin

Swansea is like many Cities has fantastic areas and facilities, then there are areas lacking so much where the majority would not wish to live. We seem to live in our own bubbles and rarely enter into the other way of life. Those more affluent enjoy an excellent quality of life in Swansea housing, schools, restaurants, theatre and concerts ect. While those less fortunate struggle to just make ends meet and only look at the other bubble from the outside. I don't think many actually realise how the other half live, be it fortunate or less so. If you get the opportunity talk to someone in public service ambulance medics/police and your eyes will really open whatever social background you are.


I live in Manselton so not exactly one of the privileged few & my daughter is a nurse so I think I've got a reasonably balanced view.
As you say all cities have their problem areas, some worse than others.
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Is Swansea really one of the UK's worst cities to live in? on 16:01 - Oct 13 with 1268 viewsjohnlangy

Is Swansea really one of the UK's worst cities to live in? on 11:35 - Oct 13 by raynor94

Tui were in Mariner Street


Damn. Wrong again.
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Is Swansea really one of the UK's worst cities to live in? on 16:23 - Oct 13 with 1236 viewsraynor94

Is Swansea really one of the UK's worst cities to live in? on 16:01 - Oct 13 by johnlangy

Damn. Wrong again.


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Is Swansea really one of the UK's worst cities to live in? on 18:16 - Oct 13 with 1152 viewsmax936

Is Swansea really one of the UK's worst cities to live in? on 21:33 - Oct 12 by builthjack

Drugs are a big problem everywhere. The police seem to turn a blind eye.
How about £100 on the spot fine for anyone smoking cannabis, and a £500 on the spot fine for anyone caught using cocaine.
Walk down a high street and you can smell cannabis, so they are easy to catch.
Go to any club toilet and see them using cocaine. £500 each time.


Like you Bulithy I'm on the road a lot through the week and if I had a quid for the times I get a whiff of the exotic baccy from passing car I'd be richer, some are blatantly smoking the disgusting stuff whilst driving, police are more concerned with dealing with the easier stuff because it's less hassle.

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Is Swansea really one of the UK's worst cities to live in? on 18:44 - Oct 13 with 1126 viewsraynor94

Is Swansea really one of the UK's worst cities to live in? on 18:16 - Oct 13 by max936

Like you Bulithy I'm on the road a lot through the week and if I had a quid for the times I get a whiff of the exotic baccy from passing car I'd be richer, some are blatantly smoking the disgusting stuff whilst driving, police are more concerned with dealing with the easier stuff because it's less hassle.


The horse has bolted its far to late now cannabis is everywhere a big raid on a house not far from me yesterday another farm

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Is Swansea really one of the UK's worst cities to live in? on 08:34 - Oct 14 with 984 views1983

Legalise cannabis tax it control it.
Alcohol does a lot more damge

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Is Swansea really one of the UK's worst cities to live in? on 09:21 - Oct 14 with 940 viewsWhiterockin

Is Swansea really one of the UK's worst cities to live in? on 08:34 - Oct 14 by 1983

Legalise cannabis tax it control it.
Alcohol does a lot more damge


Personally I think if the subject was now about alcohol and tobacco neither would have been legalised. Subsequent governments are finding it very difficult to reverse those prior decisions much as they would like to, particularly tobacco.
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Is Swansea really one of the UK's worst cities to live in? on 09:30 - Oct 14 with 926 viewsBoundy

Is Swansea really one of the UK's worst cities to live in? on 08:34 - Oct 14 by 1983

Legalise cannabis tax it control it.
Alcohol does a lot more damge


I agree in part that alcohol does more damage but imo that's because drinking is an acceptable habit in public therefore more partake of it, the cannabis used today is far more potent than anything which has gone before and with it the rise of psychosis caused by it's use.

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Is Swansea really one of the UK's worst cities to live in? on 11:03 - Oct 14 with 860 views1983

If you took a nationwide case study to find out how many people are in hospital,prison or got nicked on that day with alcohol or a bit puff related issues I think we all know the results. Selling puff over the counter and taxing it would create millions in profit which could go back into the system to stop the real bad guys.
And if people say it will turn everyone into Junkies is nonsense! I drink and I'm not an alcoholic my oldman drunk and he died and horrible alcoholic...life is about choices

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Is Swansea really one of the UK's worst cities to live in? on 00:18 - Oct 15 with 647 viewsmajorraglan

Is Swansea really one of the UK's worst cities to live in? on 09:30 - Oct 14 by Boundy

I agree in part that alcohol does more damage but imo that's because drinking is an acceptable habit in public therefore more partake of it, the cannabis used today is far more potent than anything which has gone before and with it the rise of psychosis caused by it's use.


100% agree with this post.

Further to the comments made by other posters about the smell of cannabis being very common on our street, I’ll bet most on here didn’t know that in 2016 the College of Policing's ( Home Office’s “arms length” body which sets standards and policies) authorised professional practice on stop and search training for police officers states 'smell of cannabis' alone is not enough to constitute reasonable suspicion for stop and search.

If a police officer searches someone and the only grounds they have for carrying out the search is the smell of cannabis, it’ll be considered an unlawful search (even if it finds cannabis) and will potentially mean the case won’t get off the ground and the officer could even face a disciplinary process for breaching the College of Policing (aka Home Office) guidance. The officer could also find themselves subject to legal action.
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Is Swansea really one of the UK's worst cities to live in? on 01:46 - Oct 15 with 631 viewsRobbie

Went a few years ago on a Works tour to a Plant on the outskirts of Leicester , not the Centre but a real mess of a living Estate , cars on bricks with wheels nicked was nothing .

Cars totally burned to shell was par for the course , glad to get out of there .

Bristol , Nottingham , Birmingham even Cardiff have seemed ok to me on recent visits .
As like anywhere , you go looking for trouble around the corner you will find it .

Lets hope Neath is trying to get its act together as a vibrant Town Centre again .

There are certain notorious hot spots that need better policing .
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Is Swansea really one of the UK's worst cities to live in? on 17:51 - Oct 18 with 180 viewsjohnlangy

Is Swansea really one of the UK's worst cities to live in? on 09:33 - Oct 13 by johnlangy

Well put.

I've said many times to my wife that the city centre, which is very run down, will get a massive boost when the Kingsway and Princess way developments are full. They will bring about 700 well paid jobs right into the City Centre and it's only when there are more people there with money to spend that business will thrive. Following on from that will be the St Davids centre redevelopment which will bring even more.

There's also the Hub on the old BHS site. That will also draw a large number of extra people into the centre.


I thought i'd revisit this post after speaking to Rob Stewart in Lidls today.

He confirmed that about half the jobs in the Kingsway development are new. Dr W confirmed TUI are just relocating. But RS said they (TUI) were looking to expand and would probably have moved out of the centre if they hadn't been able to source suitable office accommodation.

He also said the BHS site (the HUB) is planned to open on Dec 1st so that's a real positive. Also the council are well underway with refurbing the old Debenhams store with three tenants all ready to move in there.

So all positive stuff.
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