| Devs v Cardiff 18:21 - Oct 24 with 5743 views | aston_hoop |
Gives us an idea of players who haven't traveled to Derby then, really disappointed Kolli is being frozen out
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| Devs v Cardiff on 18:28 - Oct 24 with 3376 views | Esox_Lucius |
It's a disgrace that Frey gets selected over Kolli. |  |
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| Devs v Cardiff on 18:32 - Oct 24 with 3333 views | Northernr |
The algerian chronicale won't be impressed with that...
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| Devs v Cardiff on 18:34 - Oct 24 with 3306 views | Paddyhoops |
| Devs v Cardiff on 18:32 - Oct 24 by Northernr |
The algerian chronicale won't be impressed with that...
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There’s only one outcome to this and it’s his departure. He’s a fine talent but it will only end one way . |  | | |
| Devs v Cardiff on 18:35 - Oct 24 with 3290 views | aston_hoop |
| Devs v Cardiff on 18:32 - Oct 24 by Northernr |
The algerian chronicale won't be impressed with that...
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I like the struggle to find a second academy grad, so they've hedged their bets there | |
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| Devs v Cardiff on 18:47 - Oct 24 with 3167 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| Devs v Cardiff on 18:28 - Oct 24 by Esox_Lucius |
It's a disgrace that Frey gets selected over Kolli. |
Yes I’m sure you know much better than Julien Stephan. |  | | |
| Devs v Cardiff on 18:50 - Oct 24 with 3133 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| Devs v Cardiff on 18:34 - Oct 24 by Paddyhoops |
There’s only one outcome to this and it’s his departure. He’s a fine talent but it will only end one way . |
Yep, he'll be off in the summer.
Probably the biggest disappointment this season has been the lack of game time for any of the youngsters (bar Plymouth) this season.
I thought CN was all into developing players and then selling them? Can't really do that if you don't play them or send them out on 2-bit loans. Kolli, Morgan, Tuck, Sutton the list goes on. Poor from the club.
The whole Kolli thing shows a distinct lack of class from both sides by people who should show a bit of maturity with the young player caught in the middle. | |
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| Devs v Cardiff on 18:54 - Oct 24 with 3105 views | dmm |
It's a strong lineup tonight. Would love to watch the game.
I wonder if the trialist is the same who played on Monday? Seems to be a LB. |  | | |
| Devs v Cardiff on 18:56 - Oct 24 with 3074 views | aston_hoop |
| Devs v Cardiff on 18:54 - Oct 24 by dmm |
It's a strong lineup tonight. Would love to watch the game.
I wonder if the trialist is the same who played on Monday? Seems to be a LB. |
Yeah be surprised if it isn't given he is at LB, looked decent I thought v Bournemouth so worth another go certainly | |
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| Devs v Cardiff on 19:32 - Oct 24 with 2857 views | Beckenhamhoop |
| Devs v Cardiff on 18:56 - Oct 24 by aston_hoop |
Yeah be surprised if it isn't given he is at LB, looked decent I thought v Bournemouth so worth another go certainly |
2-0 after 30 mins. Goals from T.Rialist and D.Bennie | | | |
| Devs v Cardiff on 19:32 - Oct 24 with 2857 views | dmm |
2 up so far. Pearman and Poku | | | |
| Devs v Cardiff on 19:34 - Oct 24 with 2831 views | aston_hoop |
2-0, Akindileni and Alememayehu....nah just kidding, but wanted to keep the fun going, anyone else want to name 2 other players? | |
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| Devs v Cardiff on 19:35 - Oct 24 with 2824 views | Beckenhamhoop |
| Devs v Cardiff on 19:32 - Oct 24 by dmm |
2 up so far. Pearman and Poku |
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| Devs v Cardiff on 19:37 - Oct 24 with 2805 views | ted_hendrix |
| Devs v Cardiff on 19:34 - Oct 24 by aston_hoop |
2-0, Akindileni and Alememayehu....nah just kidding, but wanted to keep the fun going, anyone else want to name 2 other players? |
Higginbottom and Lord Melchett. |  |
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| Devs v Cardiff on 19:49 - Oct 24 with 2687 views | QPROslo |
"frozen out" with his mush barely leaving room for the starting 11 names? | | | |
| Devs v Cardiff on 19:50 - Oct 24 with 2676 views | nix |
| Devs v Cardiff on 18:50 - Oct 24 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
Yep, he'll be off in the summer.
Probably the biggest disappointment this season has been the lack of game time for any of the youngsters (bar Plymouth) this season.
I thought CN was all into developing players and then selling them? Can't really do that if you don't play them or send them out on 2-bit loans. Kolli, Morgan, Tuck, Sutton the list goes on. Poor from the club.
The whole Kolli thing shows a distinct lack of class from both sides by people who should show a bit of maturity with the young player caught in the middle. |
They have to be GOOD ENOUGH. If they play and we lose then everyone will rant about results being sacrificed for the ‘project’. As I said before we’re playing youngish players who could be worth something - Burrell, Kone, Esquerdinha and Saito are hardly pensioners….I think we’ve got one of the youngest squads in the league. But it’s also a massive jump from DS to Championship level.
I saw Tuck play for the Premier Cup final and thought he looked really promising. Then I saw him play for Hampton and Richmond and he looked a bit out of his depth tbh. He needs game time against men, as does Sutton and the others. Otherwise they’re just too naive to play in the Championship. Morgan looks more like he’s ready but even he would benefit from a League 1 or 2 loan. Is Kolli willing to go out on loan? If so three months of men’s football would benefit him.
I think the mistake is made when they don’t go out on loan. Think how Joe Walsh would be a better player if he’d played more matches. He’s hardly played over the last couple of years. How can that help his development.
I trust Stephan to make these decisions. He’s got a lot of experience developing young players and most importantly he knows what goes on behind the scenes. We only know he said/she said and whispers from ITKs |  | | |
| Devs v Cardiff on 20:09 - Oct 24 with 2511 views | Rsole |
Feels like Daniel is at the crossroads…
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| Devs v Cardiff on 20:22 - Oct 24 with 2418 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| Devs v Cardiff on 19:50 - Oct 24 by nix |
They have to be GOOD ENOUGH. If they play and we lose then everyone will rant about results being sacrificed for the ‘project’. As I said before we’re playing youngish players who could be worth something - Burrell, Kone, Esquerdinha and Saito are hardly pensioners….I think we’ve got one of the youngest squads in the league. But it’s also a massive jump from DS to Championship level.
I saw Tuck play for the Premier Cup final and thought he looked really promising. Then I saw him play for Hampton and Richmond and he looked a bit out of his depth tbh. He needs game time against men, as does Sutton and the others. Otherwise they’re just too naive to play in the Championship. Morgan looks more like he’s ready but even he would benefit from a League 1 or 2 loan. Is Kolli willing to go out on loan? If so three months of men’s football would benefit him.
I think the mistake is made when they don’t go out on loan. Think how Joe Walsh would be a better player if he’d played more matches. He’s hardly played over the last couple of years. How can that help his development.
I trust Stephan to make these decisions. He’s got a lot of experience developing young players and most importantly he knows what goes on behind the scenes. We only know he said/she said and whispers from ITKs |
Spot on Nix.
Our strongest squad for years and our best start to a season for years: what’s not to like?
Would certainly have liked to see more young players out on loan but I’m sure there’s an element of players not wanting to go out plus other teams not wanting them. As you say Stéphan has a great reputation for bringing on players so I’m more than happy to trust his decisions, especially when he’s getting positive results. | | | |
| Devs v Cardiff on 20:29 - Oct 24 with 2353 views | CiderwithRsie |
| Devs v Cardiff on 19:50 - Oct 24 by nix |
They have to be GOOD ENOUGH. If they play and we lose then everyone will rant about results being sacrificed for the ‘project’. As I said before we’re playing youngish players who could be worth something - Burrell, Kone, Esquerdinha and Saito are hardly pensioners….I think we’ve got one of the youngest squads in the league. But it’s also a massive jump from DS to Championship level.
I saw Tuck play for the Premier Cup final and thought he looked really promising. Then I saw him play for Hampton and Richmond and he looked a bit out of his depth tbh. He needs game time against men, as does Sutton and the others. Otherwise they’re just too naive to play in the Championship. Morgan looks more like he’s ready but even he would benefit from a League 1 or 2 loan. Is Kolli willing to go out on loan? If so three months of men’s football would benefit him.
I think the mistake is made when they don’t go out on loan. Think how Joe Walsh would be a better player if he’d played more matches. He’s hardly played over the last couple of years. How can that help his development.
I trust Stephan to make these decisions. He’s got a lot of experience developing young players and most importantly he knows what goes on behind the scenes. We only know he said/she said and whispers from ITKs |
Dead right.
I really like Kolli, he seemed a bright spark in a very dark time when he first came through. I also think a mistake was made in not playing him alongside Kone when Burrell was rested/unavailable.
But with Chair coming back to fitness, Poku getting the same way, and not many other injury problems opportunities for Kolli are going to be limited and a loan I think is the way to go (so long as its to the right club.) | | | |
| Devs v Cardiff on 20:35 - Oct 24 with 2292 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| Devs v Cardiff on 19:50 - Oct 24 by nix |
They have to be GOOD ENOUGH. If they play and we lose then everyone will rant about results being sacrificed for the ‘project’. As I said before we’re playing youngish players who could be worth something - Burrell, Kone, Esquerdinha and Saito are hardly pensioners….I think we’ve got one of the youngest squads in the league. But it’s also a massive jump from DS to Championship level.
I saw Tuck play for the Premier Cup final and thought he looked really promising. Then I saw him play for Hampton and Richmond and he looked a bit out of his depth tbh. He needs game time against men, as does Sutton and the others. Otherwise they’re just too naive to play in the Championship. Morgan looks more like he’s ready but even he would benefit from a League 1 or 2 loan. Is Kolli willing to go out on loan? If so three months of men’s football would benefit him.
I think the mistake is made when they don’t go out on loan. Think how Joe Walsh would be a better player if he’d played more matches. He’s hardly played over the last couple of years. How can that help his development.
I trust Stephan to make these decisions. He’s got a lot of experience developing young players and most importantly he knows what goes on behind the scenes. We only know he said/she said and whispers from ITKs |
Agree. Interested to know who arranges the loans, if anyone. | |
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| Devs v Cardiff on 20:40 - Oct 24 with 2258 views | HAYESBOY |
Desmond.
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| Devs v Cardiff on 20:54 - Oct 24 with 2153 views | CamberleyR |
| Devs v Cardiff on 19:34 - Oct 24 by aston_hoop |
2-0, Akindileni and Alememayehu....nah just kidding, but wanted to keep the fun going, anyone else want to name 2 other players? |
Hagerty, F
Hagerty, R |  |
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| Devs v Cardiff on 21:12 - Oct 24 with 2048 views | Myke |
| Devs v Cardiff on 19:50 - Oct 24 by nix |
They have to be GOOD ENOUGH. If they play and we lose then everyone will rant about results being sacrificed for the ‘project’. As I said before we’re playing youngish players who could be worth something - Burrell, Kone, Esquerdinha and Saito are hardly pensioners….I think we’ve got one of the youngest squads in the league. But it’s also a massive jump from DS to Championship level.
I saw Tuck play for the Premier Cup final and thought he looked really promising. Then I saw him play for Hampton and Richmond and he looked a bit out of his depth tbh. He needs game time against men, as does Sutton and the others. Otherwise they’re just too naive to play in the Championship. Morgan looks more like he’s ready but even he would benefit from a League 1 or 2 loan. Is Kolli willing to go out on loan? If so three months of men’s football would benefit him.
I think the mistake is made when they don’t go out on loan. Think how Joe Walsh would be a better player if he’d played more matches. He’s hardly played over the last couple of years. How can that help his development.
I trust Stephan to make these decisions. He’s got a lot of experience developing young players and most importantly he knows what goes on behind the scenes. We only know he said/she said and whispers from ITKs |
Excellent response, Nix, much more articulately that I could have put it. I think we put out the youngest team in the Championship v Watford and Coventry and we know how that went. 'Developing young talent' is not just about the academy, anybody under the age of 25 should be capable of being coached to improve, although you could argue that Paul Smyth at 28 has definitely improved his end product this season.
But exhibit A for a player who has been improved by coaching is Madsen. He has gone from a liability to one of our most important players - some of that might be with becoming familiar with the Championship, but most of it is down to Stephan and his team | | | |
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