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I'd happily discuss why I think his words and actions are abhorrent.
His words aren’t the problem. The things he was vilified for saying 15/20 years ago are now accepted mainstream discourse. It’s hard to disagree with a lot of the things he says.
Doesn’t alter the fact he’s a thoroughly unlikeable, angry, aggressive and violent little man. People use the word grifter. It’s perfect for him. He begged for donations to help “fight the system” and to help him avoid gaol then buggered off living the high life in Tenerife until the trial where he represented himself and promptly pleaded guilty to all charges. Anyone stupid enough to donate to that should be fuming.
He likes to make out he’s being targeted and persecuted because of who he is. He was in and out of gaol before any bugger knew who he was for violence and fraud and drugs and god knows what else. I would even argue his notoriety has protected him.
Why people hero worship this nasty little runt is beyond me.
His words aren’t the problem. The things he was vilified for saying 15/20 years ago are now accepted mainstream discourse. It’s hard to disagree with a lot of the things he says.
Doesn’t alter the fact he’s a thoroughly unlikeable, angry, aggressive and violent little man. People use the word grifter. It’s perfect for him. He begged for donations to help “fight the system” and to help him avoid gaol then buggered off living the high life in Tenerife until the trial where he represented himself and promptly pleaded guilty to all charges. Anyone stupid enough to donate to that should be fuming.
He likes to make out he’s being targeted and persecuted because of who he is. He was in and out of gaol before any bugger knew who he was for violence and fraud and drugs and god knows what else. I would even argue his notoriety has protected him.
Why people hero worship this nasty little runt is beyond me.
You're right ,what he says and has been saying has been proven time and time again ,maybe he's hero worshipped for that very reason and no other , Enoch Powell was villifeied for decades and yet every word he spoke has become true.
"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."
You're right ,what he says and has been saying has been proven time and time again ,maybe he's hero worshipped for that very reason and no other , Enoch Powell was villifeied for decades and yet every word he spoke has become true.
Strange isn't it Boundy? I grew up thinking Enoch Powell was a terrible person but as you mature and formulate your own opinions I learned much about the man and he was a brilliant polymath with an exceptionally high IQ and excelled in Academia. Spoke several languages including Urdu and Welsh and had the sort of worldwide military and political experience so lacking in modern politics.
Heath was always spineless and acted accordingly. The media loves nothing more than destroying someone in a pile-on - twas ever thus and the 70s no exception.
Powell had many admirers and friends across the political divide from Thatcher to Benn. They often didn't agree with him but they respected him for his unfaltering principles. That speaks volumes.
I don't think anyone should compare TR with Powell other than vilification by the client media for their views on immigration. One is a street activist and the other a largely now extinct example of a deep thinking 19/20C Philosopher-Politician.
History is littered with brilliant men who were also flawed.
Richard Nixon was another. An absolute genius with foreign policy who's understanding bordered on precognition, but got brought down as a result of being paranoid, sneaky and a bit racist.
Can you imagine any of the last half a dozen US Presidents making this kind of prediction on Russia and being absolutely spot on 30+ years later?
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Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.
His words aren’t the problem. The things he was vilified for saying 15/20 years ago are now accepted mainstream discourse. It’s hard to disagree with a lot of the things he says.
Doesn’t alter the fact he’s a thoroughly unlikeable, angry, aggressive and violent little man. People use the word grifter. It’s perfect for him. He begged for donations to help “fight the system” and to help him avoid gaol then buggered off living the high life in Tenerife until the trial where he represented himself and promptly pleaded guilty to all charges. Anyone stupid enough to donate to that should be fuming.
He likes to make out he’s being targeted and persecuted because of who he is. He was in and out of gaol before any bugger knew who he was for violence and fraud and drugs and god knows what else. I would even argue his notoriety has protected him.
Why people hero worship this nasty little runt is beyond me.
It's hard to disagree with it because it's either deliberately misrepresented, misconstrued or misunderstood.
To be fair he probably doesn't understand the situation himself.
History like Enoch Powell Robinson , regardless of his persona will be proven to have been right.
It depends on the attitude and personality of third or fourth generation Muslims and Hindus.
I spoke Turkish to a guy called Mehmet Baris on the phone at work and he told me he did not speak a word. I was in digs with a Bangladeshi girl in London who had run away from home in Leicester to get away from her parents. She wanted t be free. Is anyone concerned anymore if they are dealing with a Catholic.
It is not a given that after 60-70 year Muslim born Brits will be any less tolerant or less patriotic than the rest of us. This is the calculation the British state has taken.
If the two airport Pakistani thugs at Manchester airport were Welsh I would want them sent down Welsh or not.
Rivers of blood. It has not happened yet.
People like to state multiculturalism has not worked. The majority of NHS health people I have come across were foreign.
Whenever his name comes up, I always chuckle about the letter he accidentally sent himself by mistakenly not switching accounts:
I’m sure lots of us have had that feeling of dread when you realise you’ve sent a message or an email to the wrong place. Fortunately when most people do it the contents aren’t intended to stir up hate.
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