| Resident doctors demand another big pay rise 07:54 - May 29 with 9449 views | AnotherJohn |
The resident doctors - the new term for doctors in the training grades - got a pay uplift of about 22% last year and are now demanding a further 29% rise this year.
https://au.news.yahoo.com/junior-doctors-seeking-almost-30-073732927.html
The forum was divided in its views last year. Some of us worried that such a generous pay deal would trigger a round of catch-up pay demands in the public sector, but I don't think anybody thought the doctors would come back for so much more so quickly. As a reminder, the present scale for the training grades in England runs from £36,616 to £70,425. Salaries for consultants, specialty and specialist doctors (SAS) and GPs go much higher. Thoughts? |  | | |  |
| Resident doctors demand another big pay rise on 12:10 - Jul 4 with 1226 views | trampie |
| Resident doctors demand another big pay rise on 11:57 - Jul 4 by Whiterockin |
First thing you should do when he moves in is tell him that you think earns too much. Post the outcome on here. |
I don't say he earns too much at 29 but what about at 59 is more the question.
Funny enough when I moved here about a quarter of a century ago, it was between me and a Doctor to buy my house then, I had sold so wasn't in a chain, if I recall he/she was. |  |
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| Resident doctors demand another big pay rise on 11:23 - Jul 5 with 1147 views | Scotia |
| Resident doctors demand another big pay rise on 12:10 - Jul 4 by trampie |
I don't say he earns too much at 29 but what about at 59 is more the question.
Funny enough when I moved here about a quarter of a century ago, it was between me and a Doctor to buy my house then, I had sold so wasn't in a chain, if I recall he/she was. |
Wait until he's 59, asked how much he's earned then divide it by the lives he's saved.
Then ask those people if they think he earns too much. | | | |
| Resident doctors demand another big pay rise on 11:32 - Jul 5 with 1121 views | controversial_jack |
| Resident doctors demand another big pay rise on 11:23 - Jul 5 by Scotia |
Wait until he's 59, asked how much he's earned then divide it by the lives he's saved.
Then ask those people if they think he earns too much. |
They should be on shift 24/7 | | | |
| Resident doctors demand another big pay rise on 11:36 - Jul 5 with 1114 views | Scotia |
| Resident doctors demand another big pay rise on 11:32 - Jul 5 by controversial_jack |
They should be on shift 24/7 |
That'll really help them make life and death decisions. Great idea. | | | |
| Resident doctors demand another big pay rise on 13:25 - Jul 5 with 1084 views | controversial_jack |
| Resident doctors demand another big pay rise on 11:36 - Jul 5 by Scotia |
That'll really help them make life and death decisions. Great idea. |
Most are not life and death and they confer with colleagues | | | |
| Resident doctors demand another big pay rise on 11:45 - Jul 8 with 990 views | trampie |
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| Resident doctors demand another big pay rise on 11:52 - Jul 8 with 982 views | trampie |
It's on massive disruption coming to patients in England at least, country struggling to pay benefits including state pension as it is, Labour going after pensioners, the sick and people on benefits but Labour refuse to go after the rich.
Labour just like the Conservatives take from the poor and give to the rich. | |
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| Resident doctors demand another big pay rise on 13:42 - Jul 8 with 913 views | controversial_jack |
Changed my mind. Recovering from
Sepsis in Morriston at the mo, they deserve more and so do all the other staff
The NHS must be protected, supported and funded to the maximum | | | |
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| Resident doctors demand another big pay rise on 13:47 - Jul 8 with 892 views | Whiterockin |
| Resident doctors demand another big pay rise on 13:42 - Jul 8 by controversial_jack |
Changed my mind. Recovering from
Sepsis in Morriston at the mo, they deserve more and so do all the other staff
The NHS must be protected, supported and funded to the maximum |
Well said. Only when you need them do you realise what they do. If we strive to have the best in the world we have to pay.
I hope you are well soon, take care. |  | | |
| Resident doctors demand another big pay rise on 13:51 - Jul 8 with 880 views | trampie |
| Resident doctors demand another big pay rise on 13:42 - Jul 8 by controversial_jack |
Changed my mind. Recovering from
Sepsis in Morriston at the mo, they deserve more and so do all the other staff
The NHS must be protected, supported and funded to the maximum |
Nurses, porters and the like deserve more, doctors at the start of their career could have more but possibly have not so much at the end, i seen it suggested today to give them more cash and pay for it by taking it from their pension.
The way to fund the NHS to the max is to take from big businesses and the rich and not from the poor, apparently we have more food banks than McDonald's.
Hope you get well soon. [Post edited 8 Jul 13:56]
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| Resident doctors demand another big pay rise on 07:20 - Jul 11 with 706 views | trampie |
This guy has been a member of the BMA for 60 years and he is quitting because they are going to go on strike for more money again. | |
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| Resident doctors demand another big pay rise on 22:27 - Jul 12 with 626 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Resident doctors demand another big pay rise on 22:48 - Jun 1 by trampie |
Thats Nazi ideology, natural selection, survival of the fittest, you should be ashamed of yourself and you have the gall to question me when you harbour such beliefs. |
Just reading through the thread and I got to here and suddenly...WTF? Natural selection is Nazi ideology?
I've read some bizarre things on here but now apparently Darwin is a Nazi.
The nazi's didnt believe in Darwinism, they believed the Aryan race was superior and meant to be masters of the world, In fact they thought it was their obligation to mrule over the lesser beings. Here you go,
https://www.yadvashem.org/education/educational-videos/video-toolbox/hevt-nazi-i | | | |
| Resident doctors demand another big pay rise on 22:49 - Jul 12 with 599 views | Luther27 |
| Resident doctors demand another big pay rise on 13:51 - Jul 8 by trampie |
Nurses, porters and the like deserve more, doctors at the start of their career could have more but possibly have not so much at the end, i seen it suggested today to give them more cash and pay for it by taking it from their pension.
The way to fund the NHS to the max is to take from big businesses and the rich and not from the poor, apparently we have more food banks than McDonald's.
Hope you get well soon. [Post edited 8 Jul 13:56]
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Where do you stop? £200 billion…and climbing… isn’t enough. If you give the NHS £500 billion it won’t be enough. Personally id halve it at least and let the overpaid management work for a living like the rest of us and stop wasting our money.
The NHS was founded to treat the sick not to wear poxy trans whatever lanyards…not to have diversity or integration courses etc etc . It was founded to help and treat us… the tax paying public to help in our greatest needs.
Bevan would turn in his grave if he’d seen what has happened to his ideal…. and the hypocritic wretches that are playing with you and your families life for 12 pieces of silver. | | | |
| Resident doctors demand another big pay rise on 23:05 - Jul 12 with 580 views | Luther27 |
| Resident doctors demand another big pay rise on 13:42 - Jul 8 by controversial_jack |
Changed my mind. Recovering from
Sepsis in Morriston at the mo, they deserve more and so do all the other staff
The NHS must be protected, supported and funded to the maximum |
How are you feeling you cantankerous bugger!
Hope you get better soon. Maybe the staff there should take your phone off you to help lower you blood pressure 😐😂 | | | |
| Resident doctors demand another big pay rise on 18:29 - Jul 13 with 475 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Resident doctors demand another big pay rise on 11:52 - Jul 8 by trampie |
It's on massive disruption coming to patients in England at least, country struggling to pay benefits including state pension as it is, Labour going after pensioners, the sick and people on benefits but Labour refuse to go after the rich.
Labour just like the Conservatives take from the poor and give to the rich. |
As everyone knows the more you tax the rich the less total tax you raise. They just leave the country and pay no tax at all. 1000s of non doms have ready left the country.
The socialist have never understood that having a bigger share of a smaller cake does not make anyone better off.
The economy needs to grow, and we need to attract the wealthy to live in the UK. | |
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| Resident doctors demand another big pay rise on 15:47 - Jul 14 with 413 views | controversial_jack |
| Resident doctors demand another big pay rise on 23:05 - Jul 12 by Luther27 |
How are you feeling you cantankerous bugger!
Hope you get better soon. Maybe the staff there should take your phone off you to help lower you blood pressure 😐😂 |
Love it. Home now, recuperation and learning to walk again with a zimmer frame. It's left me with a sore knee and a painfull calf. Getting stronger day by day. 5weeks of anti biotics. Sepsis hit me for 6.
Thanks for your best wishes | | | |
| Resident doctors demand another big pay rise on 16:04 - Jul 14 with 402 views | raynor94 |
| Resident doctors demand another big pay rise on 15:47 - Jul 14 by controversial_jack |
Love it. Home now, recuperation and learning to walk again with a zimmer frame. It's left me with a sore knee and a painfull calf. Getting stronger day by day. 5weeks of anti biotics. Sepsis hit me for 6.
Thanks for your best wishes |
Ah no you are back again, just when you think it's safe to be on here.
Good to hear you on the mend sounds like you have had a rough ride |  |
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| Resident doctors demand another big pay rise on 16:09 - Jul 14 with 385 views | controversial_jack |
| Resident doctors demand another big pay rise on 16:04 - Jul 14 by raynor94 |
Ah no you are back again, just when you think it's safe to be on here.
Good to hear you on the mend sounds like you have had a rough ride |
Yes, it was rough and scary. Thank you for your best wishes | | | |
| Resident doctors demand another big pay rise on 16:36 - Jul 14 with 360 views | Luther27 |
| Resident doctors demand another big pay rise on 15:47 - Jul 14 by controversial_jack |
Love it. Home now, recuperation and learning to walk again with a zimmer frame. It's left me with a sore knee and a painfull calf. Getting stronger day by day. 5weeks of anti biotics. Sepsis hit me for 6.
Thanks for your best wishes |
Stick with it…no pun intended…and you’ll be ready for next years Iron Man before you know it! | | | |
| Resident doctors demand another big pay rise on 16:54 - Jul 15 with 262 views | felixstowe_jack |
Junior Doctors are on £37000 to £71000 for a basic 40 hour week. They get more for working nights and weekends as well as overtime payments.
Their employers , the tax payers, also pay a pension contribution of 24%. This compares with 3 to 6% in the private sector.
When you factor this in thy are getting the equivalent of £46,000 to £98,000 s year for a basic 40 hour week. Yet their Union wants an extra 25%. The British Millitant Association is a disgrace putting the lives of patients at risk. This is despite a record number of new doctors in the last 5 years. | |
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| Resident doctors demand another big pay rise on 17:02 - Jul 15 with 251 views | Luther27 |
| Resident doctors demand another big pay rise on 16:54 - Jul 15 by felixstowe_jack |
Junior Doctors are on £37000 to £71000 for a basic 40 hour week. They get more for working nights and weekends as well as overtime payments.
Their employers , the tax payers, also pay a pension contribution of 24%. This compares with 3 to 6% in the private sector.
When you factor this in thy are getting the equivalent of £46,000 to £98,000 s year for a basic 40 hour week. Yet their Union wants an extra 25%. The British Millitant Association is a disgrace putting the lives of patients at risk. This is despite a record number of new doctors in the last 5 years. |
Puts it into perspective if the figures you quote are correct. I’ve no time for them or any other strikers in the NHS who have obviously forgotten why they signed up for it. To think this list signed the Hippocratic Oath to save lives. Better off signing Hypocritic Oath because that’s what they are. | | | |
| Resident doctors demand another big pay rise on 17:32 - Jul 15 with 242 views | Scotia |
| Resident doctors demand another big pay rise on 16:54 - Jul 15 by felixstowe_jack |
Junior Doctors are on £37000 to £71000 for a basic 40 hour week. They get more for working nights and weekends as well as overtime payments.
Their employers , the tax payers, also pay a pension contribution of 24%. This compares with 3 to 6% in the private sector.
When you factor this in thy are getting the equivalent of £46,000 to £98,000 s year for a basic 40 hour week. Yet their Union wants an extra 25%. The British Millitant Association is a disgrace putting the lives of patients at risk. This is despite a record number of new doctors in the last 5 years. |
A "junior doctor" you refer to on £71k a year is on grade st 6.
That role is referred to as a speciality registrar. Worth every penny of £71k a year. | | | |
| Resident doctors demand another big pay rise on 18:15 - Jul 15 with 220 views | Whiterockin |
| Resident doctors demand another big pay rise on 17:32 - Jul 15 by Scotia |
A "junior doctor" you refer to on £71k a year is on grade st 6.
That role is referred to as a speciality registrar. Worth every penny of £71k a year. |
Exactly. You can't just put figures out there without describing the pay scale and the roles that are involved in those pay grades. | | | |
| Resident doctors demand another big pay rise on 20:28 - Jul 15 with 186 views | Gwyn737 |
| Resident doctors demand another big pay rise on 17:02 - Jul 15 by Luther27 |
Puts it into perspective if the figures you quote are correct. I’ve no time for them or any other strikers in the NHS who have obviously forgotten why they signed up for it. To think this list signed the Hippocratic Oath to save lives. Better off signing Hypocritic Oath because that’s what they are. |
How much would you say is reasonable for someone who had accrued £125,000 in debt through university and has undertaken around 12 years of training to get to grade 6? | | | |
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