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Would you want the club to re instate Marti Cifuentes ?? 08:48 - Jun 4 with 5583 viewsnumptydumpty

Would you want the club to re instate Marti Cifuentes ??


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Poll: Would you want the club to re instate Marti Cifuentes ??

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Would you want the club to re instate Marti Cifuentes ?? on 09:03 - Jun 4 with 3442 viewsstevec

Forgive me, but shouldn’t the ‘too much water under the bridge’ option be a NO rather than a YES?
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Would you want the club to re instate Marti Cifuentes ?? on 09:05 - Jun 4 with 3420 viewsQPunkR

Would you want the club to re instate Marti Cifuentes ?? on 09:03 - Jun 4 by stevec

Forgive me, but shouldn’t the ‘too much water under the bridge’ option be a NO rather than a YES?


Yeah it definitely doesn't sound right

Shit but local

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Would you want the club to re instate Marti Cifuentes ?? on 09:10 - Jun 4 with 3408 viewsFDC

Would you want the club to re instate Marti Cifuentes ?? on 09:03 - Jun 4 by stevec

Forgive me, but shouldn’t the ‘too much water under the bridge’ option be a NO rather than a YES?


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Would you want the club to re instate Marti Cifuentes ?? on 09:12 - Jun 4 with 3393 viewsdaveB

If he can't work with Nourry which seems the case now then best for the club that we part ways as Nourry is going nowhere at the moment
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Would you want the club to re instate Marti Cifuentes ?? on 09:25 - Jun 4 with 3314 viewsted_hendrix

Would you want the club to re instate Marti Cifuentes ?? on 09:05 - Jun 4 by QPunkR

Yeah it definitely doesn't sound right


Well It gave me a little laugh, anyway I don't want Cifuentes around the club anymore. Cant be arsed giving my reasons, just cant be arsed.

My Father had a profound influence on me, he was a lunatic.

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Would you want the club to re instate Marti Cifuentes ?? on 09:28 - Jun 4 with 3294 viewslassel

No. Unless Hoos and Nourry are going - and they’re not… - it would be a totally pointless thing to do.
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Would you want the club to re instate Marti Cifuentes ?? on 09:38 - Jun 4 with 3234 viewsenfieldargh

Would you want the club to re instate Marti Cifuentes ?? on 09:25 - Jun 4 by ted_hendrix

Well It gave me a little laugh, anyway I don't want Cifuentes around the club anymore. Cant be arsed giving my reasons, just cant be arsed.


He is definitley water under the bridge to me.

Venners leaving, I still havnt got over it

captains fantastic
Poll: Jimmy Dunne Will he stay or will he go

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Would you want the club to re instate Marti Cifuentes ?? on 09:42 - Jun 4 with 3186 viewsgazza1

If he did what he, apparently, did re WBA then he can F off.

If he didn't and it is an issue with Nourry then it would be very difficult to 'patch up'.

I do not believe that he will return, too much stuff gone on.
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Would you want the club to re instate Marti Cifuentes ?? on 10:07 - Jun 4 with 3094 viewsTheChef

You're missing the response "It's never going to happen".

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Would you want the club to re instate Marti Cifuentes ?? on 12:44 - Jun 4 with 2792 viewsnumptydumpty

Would you want the club to re instate Marti Cifuentes ?? on 09:03 - Jun 4 by stevec

Forgive me, but shouldn’t the ‘too much water under the bridge’ option be a NO rather than a YES?


Should begin with a no.

Correct.

Wrote that one wrongly.

Can't seem to be able to edit it though

"Walking in a Mackie Wonderland"
Poll: Would you want the club to re instate Marti Cifuentes ??

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Would you want the club to re instate Marti Cifuentes ?? on 12:53 - Jun 4 with 2740 viewsHoopsie

Would you want the club to re instate Marti Cifuentes ?? on 12:44 - Jun 4 by numptydumpty

Should begin with a no.

Correct.

Wrote that one wrongly.

Can't seem to be able to edit it though


I selected “it’s never gonna happen” despite what people think highly or lowly of MC or CN

Poll: Nourry or Cifuentes?

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Would you want the club to re instate Marti Cifuentes ?? on 15:00 - Jun 4 with 2419 viewsBoston

It's my Marti and I'll cry if I want to.
[Post edited 4 Jun 15:00]

Poll: Thank God The Seaons Over.

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Would you want the club to re instate Marti Cifuentes ?? on 15:05 - Jun 4 with 2392 views7374Ranger

Would you want the club to re instate Marti Cifuentes ?? on 15:00 - Jun 4 by Boston

It's my Marti and I'll cry if I want to.
[Post edited 4 Jun 15:00]


He has effectively been sacked so won't be reinstated unless Nourry goes (0.00001% chance of that happening).
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Would you want the club to re instate Marti Cifuentes ?? on 15:14 - Jun 4 with 2305 viewsstainrods_elbow

Has Marti/Team Marti actually confirmed or denied he or his reps spoke to WBA (or anyone)? The fact that, to the best of my knowledge in the fascist regime/progressive cult/going concern that is QPR he's not said a dicky bird is a smoking gun. If he hasn't done anything wrong, contractually speaking, to warrant being put on gardening leave, why isn't he kicking up a fuss and contesting it?

I'd be voting No for the last two reasons if the poll allowed it. Overall, his performance has been more up and down than Christine Keeler's knickers, and he hardly makes a convincing case of commitment to the club. Those evangelically pro-Marti fans on here I've had to reflect back their own delusions to are to generalised cultish hostility and/or abuse have been in denial all along, and now the truth's hitting the Nourry fan those of us with a critical eye in our heads have been proven grimly right. He's basically a prolonged Spanish version of Boil with a seductive patter with the fans! In short, with all the murk the word implies, a professional. I'm an amateur in all things, I go with my heart and gut, and that means at the very least authenticity, not bullshit.
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Poll: Playoffs?

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Would you want the club to re instate Marti Cifuentes ?? on 15:16 - Jun 4 with 2287 viewsstainrods_elbow

Would you want the club to re instate Marti Cifuentes ?? on 12:44 - Jun 4 by numptydumpty

Should begin with a no.

Correct.

Wrote that one wrongly.

Can't seem to be able to edit it though


Maybe think/proofread before you go to the polls! Why 3 (should be 4) 'NO' answers and only one emphatic 'YES', for instance? Can't one say yes with reservations/on balance/through gritted teeth, for instance?
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Poll: Playoffs?

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Would you want the club to re instate Marti Cifuentes ?? on 15:23 - Jun 4 with 2257 viewskensalriser

Would you want the club to re instate Marti Cifuentes ?? on 15:14 - Jun 4 by stainrods_elbow

Has Marti/Team Marti actually confirmed or denied he or his reps spoke to WBA (or anyone)? The fact that, to the best of my knowledge in the fascist regime/progressive cult/going concern that is QPR he's not said a dicky bird is a smoking gun. If he hasn't done anything wrong, contractually speaking, to warrant being put on gardening leave, why isn't he kicking up a fuss and contesting it?

I'd be voting No for the last two reasons if the poll allowed it. Overall, his performance has been more up and down than Christine Keeler's knickers, and he hardly makes a convincing case of commitment to the club. Those evangelically pro-Marti fans on here I've had to reflect back their own delusions to are to generalised cultish hostility and/or abuse have been in denial all along, and now the truth's hitting the Nourry fan those of us with a critical eye in our heads have been proven grimly right. He's basically a prolonged Spanish version of Boil with a seductive patter with the fans! In short, with all the murk the word implies, a professional. I'm an amateur in all things, I go with my heart and gut, and that means at the very least authenticity, not bullshit.
[Post edited 4 Jun 15:14]


He's still being paid so can't contest it as there is no loss.

Poll: QPR to finish 7th or Brentford to drop out of the top 6?

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Would you want the club to re instate Marti Cifuentes ?? on 15:28 - Jun 4 with 2203 viewsstainrods_elbow

Would you want the club to re instate Marti Cifuentes ?? on 15:23 - Jun 4 by kensalriser

He's still being paid so can't contest it as there is no loss.


I meant morally as much as financially - it's his name out there, isn't it? So you're saying that, as long as he's being paid, he won't (and needn't/shouldn't) care?

Does that mean there's nothting to stop any employer putting anyone on gardening leave, whatever they've done or haven't done? (Answers, please, for posters who actually know something about contract law.)

Poll: Playoffs?

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Would you want the club to re instate Marti Cifuentes ?? on 15:30 - Jun 4 with 2228 viewslassel

Would you want the club to re instate Marti Cifuentes ?? on 15:14 - Jun 4 by stainrods_elbow

Has Marti/Team Marti actually confirmed or denied he or his reps spoke to WBA (or anyone)? The fact that, to the best of my knowledge in the fascist regime/progressive cult/going concern that is QPR he's not said a dicky bird is a smoking gun. If he hasn't done anything wrong, contractually speaking, to warrant being put on gardening leave, why isn't he kicking up a fuss and contesting it?

I'd be voting No for the last two reasons if the poll allowed it. Overall, his performance has been more up and down than Christine Keeler's knickers, and he hardly makes a convincing case of commitment to the club. Those evangelically pro-Marti fans on here I've had to reflect back their own delusions to are to generalised cultish hostility and/or abuse have been in denial all along, and now the truth's hitting the Nourry fan those of us with a critical eye in our heads have been proven grimly right. He's basically a prolonged Spanish version of Boil with a seductive patter with the fans! In short, with all the murk the word implies, a professional. I'm an amateur in all things, I go with my heart and gut, and that means at the very least authenticity, not bullshit.
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How many people would complain about a year off on full pay?
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Would you want the club to re instate Marti Cifuentes ?? on 15:33 - Jun 4 with 2197 viewsSimonJames

Would you want the club to re instate Marti Cifuentes ?? on 09:12 - Jun 4 by daveB

If he can't work with Nourry which seems the case now then best for the club that we part ways as Nourry is going nowhere at the moment


If Nourry isn't up to the job (and I suspect that he isn't) then it doesn't matter who is brought in...
It will potentially be a series of unsuccessful appointments until Nourry is identified as the root cause and is removed.
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100% of people who drink water will die.

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Would you want the club to re instate Marti Cifuentes ?? on 15:39 - Jun 4 with 2156 viewsLazyFan

I would rather a manager who knows what he's doing in this league than some newbie who has to learn why teams like Cardiff keep scoring corners against us.

And that you cannot play Madsen and Andersen in the same team and so on.

zzzzzzzzzz

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Would you want the club to re instate Marti Cifuentes ?? on 15:40 - Jun 4 with 2157 viewsKensalT

Would you want the club to re instate Marti Cifuentes ?? on 15:30 - Jun 4 by lassel

How many people would complain about a year off on full pay?


Alan Curbishley probably asked himself that question a few years ago.
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Would you want the club to re instate Marti Cifuentes ?? on 15:44 - Jun 4 with 2138 viewslassel

Would you want the club to re instate Marti Cifuentes ?? on 15:40 - Jun 4 by KensalT

Alan Curbishley probably asked himself that question a few years ago.


Did he ever need to work again after?
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Would you want the club to re instate Marti Cifuentes ?? on 15:56 - Jun 4 with 2084 viewsKensalT

Would you want the club to re instate Marti Cifuentes ?? on 15:44 - Jun 4 by lassel

Did he ever need to work again after?


According to his wiki his last managerial job was 2008.

Since then his only job in football was two months as Technical Director at Fulham in 2013/14. Followed by another stint coaching at Fulham in 2015.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Curbishley

So the answer to that is probably yes.

There was a time when Curbishley was amongst the favourites for every managerial job going. After a while he was still quoted in the betting but the odds were getting longer and longer until eventually it was a running joke that he was ever in the betting at all.

It's a bit like being a long distance runner or a cyclist in the Tour De France. Once you get dropped by the pack it can be very hard work to get back in the race

Steve Cotterill used to get linked to every job at our level.

Remember him?

No!
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Would you want the club to re instate Marti Cifuentes ?? on 16:25 - Jun 4 with 1995 viewsnick_hammersmith

Would you want the club to re instate Marti Cifuentes ?? on 15:56 - Jun 4 by KensalT

According to his wiki his last managerial job was 2008.

Since then his only job in football was two months as Technical Director at Fulham in 2013/14. Followed by another stint coaching at Fulham in 2015.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Curbishley

So the answer to that is probably yes.

There was a time when Curbishley was amongst the favourites for every managerial job going. After a while he was still quoted in the betting but the odds were getting longer and longer until eventually it was a running joke that he was ever in the betting at all.

It's a bit like being a long distance runner or a cyclist in the Tour De France. Once you get dropped by the pack it can be very hard work to get back in the race

Steve Cotterill used to get linked to every job at our level.

Remember him?

No!


Not sure either of those two are claiming job seekers, or having to deliver parcels for Amazon.

I cannot think of many jobs where you can be paid your whole salary just to leave if you are are deemed not to be doing your job properly.
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Would you want the club to re instate Marti Cifuentes ?? on 16:41 - Jun 4 with 1877 viewsKensalT

Would you want the club to re instate Marti Cifuentes ?? on 16:25 - Jun 4 by nick_hammersmith

Not sure either of those two are claiming job seekers, or having to deliver parcels for Amazon.

I cannot think of many jobs where you can be paid your whole salary just to leave if you are are deemed not to be doing your job properly.


My point is that the game moves on and you can be forgotten very quickly at this level.

Two years ago Darren Moore was getting Wednesday promoted to the Championship.

Most people thought he was very unlucky to be sacked from that job.

There's been a glut of Championship jobs coming open since Easter. I haven't seen Moore's name linked to any of them.
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