| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? 13:18 - Jun 9 with 2936 views | trampie |
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| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 18:17 - Jun 10 with 1028 views | Boundy |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 16:49 - Jun 10 by Whiterockin |
Wasn't Plaid in coalition with Labour when the 20mph was brought in. Plus during the Welsh NHS fiasco with Betsi Cadwaladr being brought in and out and back in special measures and the general decline in health services in Wales. |
Plaid were /are happy to cling onto the shirt tails of labour as it gives them some sort of power, and in doing so are as guilty as Labour are of dragging the country down to levels any other leadership would be embarrassed to be part of.
The danger as in all elections since devolution is apathy, when you consider that over the past 6 Welsh elections the voters haven't exactly come out in droves to cast their vote and in not doing so have helped Labour to maintain its grip on the country ,a grip that has to be shaken off if we're to build a country worthy of its name. Reform will do well imo with it Plaid ,whether they'll form a partnership is unlikely though due to the mindset of each party leader so where that will lead us who knows but 26 years of stagnation is 26 years too long. |  |
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| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 18:18 - Jun 10 with 1030 views | johnlangy |
Interesting to see new Reform MP Sarah Pochin explaining on Daily Politics how a Reform Government would make cuts in Labour's spending on Net Zero saving £225 billion.
One of the other panelists pointed out that most of the £225 billion going into net zero would be private investment. She then went on to say that the amount of Labour spending on Net Zero that they would cancel would still be substantial even allowing for that. She didn't say how much presumably because she didn't know even though she had been certain about the savings about two minutes before.
So let's make a guess on her behalf at a saving of £50 billion on what Reform obviously see as wasteful government expenditure on net zero.
But that would mean that £175 billion of private sector investment in the UK would be lost. I always thought that government investment which generates 4/5 times that amount in private investment was supposed to be a good thing for the economy.
It appears that Sarah and the Reform party don't agree. | | | |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 18:43 - Jun 10 with 999 views | shingle |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 09:08 - Jun 10 by Kilkennyjack |
Farage is a posh bloke backed by billionaires who does not care about Wales. 🇬🇧
I hope that is clear to you. |
What is clear to me is the decline in Wales under Labour and Plaid and that has nothing to do with Farage.
I hope that is clear to you. | | | |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 18:54 - Jun 10 with 996 views | shingle |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 17:52 - Jun 10 by SullutaCreturned |
The 20mph was Labour, Plaid agreed with it yes but the problem wasn't the idea, it was the planning and implementation. How much of that was down to Plaid?
The Welsh NHS has been a disaster a long time in the making.
Then there's leaders, Plaid used to have the useless Adam Price, Ap Iorwerth seems a much better proposition. How good he really is we'll have to wait and see I guess. One thing I'm certain of, he is no more of a proven failure than Farage and at least Plaid have policies. |
Farage has had nothing to do with Welsh policies Labour and Plaid have and both parties have messed everything up, why do you keep saying Farage has failed us, it seems like Starmer the guy is living rent free inside your head as well. | | | |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 20:03 - Jun 10 with 961 views | union_jack |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 19:07 - Jun 9 by SullutaCreturned |
It's not often I agree with Trampie but I do on this. When Labour were the senior partner Plaid got crumbs, it'll be the same for Labour if Plaid are senior partner.
Better for everybody if the vast majority of Labour voters went elsewhere. We've had enough if Labour in Wales. If Labour aren't going to win are labour voters going to happily give Reform a lot of seats?
Time for tactial voting, give up on Labour and give Plaid a majority. It's Rhun ap Iorwerth Or Farage. |
Using Plaid as an alternative is dangerous. They have one policy above everything else they want to get through and these extra votes such as yours gives them grist to their mill!
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| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 09:20 - Jun 11 with 853 views | johnlangy |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 20:03 - Jun 10 by union_jack |
Using Plaid as an alternative is dangerous. They have one policy above everything else they want to get through and these extra votes such as yours gives them grist to their mill!
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If someone decides to vote for Plaid then I imagine they would know what their policies are.
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| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 11:35 - Jun 11 with 799 views | union_jack |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 09:20 - Jun 11 by johnlangy |
If someone decides to vote for Plaid then I imagine they would know what their policies are.
Why is that dangerous ? |
Because of their primary aim which to me is dangerous. You’d disagree of course and I respect that. | |
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| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 15:28 - Jun 11 with 750 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 18:43 - Jun 10 by shingle |
What is clear to me is the decline in Wales under Labour and Plaid and that has nothing to do with Farage.
I hope that is clear to you. |
Well labour and plaid did not tell people to vote for Brexit against their own interests.
Farage did.
And the Brexit he championed has failed by any measure.
Migration has got larger.
Farage is compromised.
Never delivered much, and when he tried then he failed badly.
Ukip/brexit/reform are all the same.
Now supported by Tory losers as well.
Voting for Farage as a welsh person is to be on the wrong side of history. |  |
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| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 17:45 - Jun 11 with 708 views | johnlangy |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 11:35 - Jun 11 by union_jack |
Because of their primary aim which to me is dangerous. You’d disagree of course and I respect that. |
Fair comment. Thank you. | | | |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 18:12 - Jun 11 with 689 views | shingle |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 15:28 - Jun 11 by Kilkennyjack |
Well labour and plaid did not tell people to vote for Brexit against their own interests.
Farage did.
And the Brexit he championed has failed by any measure.
Migration has got larger.
Farage is compromised.
Never delivered much, and when he tried then he failed badly.
Ukip/brexit/reform are all the same.
Now supported by Tory losers as well.
Voting for Farage as a welsh person is to be on the wrong side of history. |
Again what has that got to do with the decline in Wales under Labour and Plaid you seem more obsessed with Farage than the mess these two parties are causing in Wales despite Farage having nothing whatsoever to do with it. | | | |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 18:43 - Jun 11 with 651 views | Whiterockin |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 18:12 - Jun 11 by shingle |
Again what has that got to do with the decline in Wales under Labour and Plaid you seem more obsessed with Farage than the mess these two parties are causing in Wales despite Farage having nothing whatsoever to do with it. |
Real Welsh people are concerned with how Wales has been run, the declining basic services and what can be done to improve life for every person living in Wales. People who continually bury their head in the sand and go on about whatsaboutary are more interested in trying to score points than improve Wales, are they actually Welsh. |  | | |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 19:53 - Jun 11 with 613 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 18:54 - Jun 10 by shingle |
Farage has had nothing to do with Welsh policies Labour and Plaid have and both parties have messed everything up, why do you keep saying Farage has failed us, it seems like Starmer the guy is living rent free inside your head as well. |
Now that is a classic case of saying something without knowing all the info.
I don't vote Labour OR tory and have been highly critical of both. I have said repeatedly that those 2 parties have been guilty of ruining the Uk for the last 40-50 years.
I called Farage a failure because he has tried and failed to be an MP 7 times, finally making it in Clacton at the 8th attempt.
He was also a Euro MP who, while shouting out we should leave and being their biggest critic kept taking their money and now he takes their pension, a hypocrite too.
Don't worry, you're not alone. At various times Labour voters have called me a tory and tory voters have called me a left loony..
My point about policies was that while Farage has made promises to Wales, he has no policies to shout about AND the promises he's made are promises he CANNOT keep because they are outside the Senedd's remit. | | | |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 19:56 - Jun 11 with 611 views | Gwyn737 |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 19:53 - Jun 11 by SullutaCreturned |
Now that is a classic case of saying something without knowing all the info.
I don't vote Labour OR tory and have been highly critical of both. I have said repeatedly that those 2 parties have been guilty of ruining the Uk for the last 40-50 years.
I called Farage a failure because he has tried and failed to be an MP 7 times, finally making it in Clacton at the 8th attempt.
He was also a Euro MP who, while shouting out we should leave and being their biggest critic kept taking their money and now he takes their pension, a hypocrite too.
Don't worry, you're not alone. At various times Labour voters have called me a tory and tory voters have called me a left loony..
My point about policies was that while Farage has made promises to Wales, he has no policies to shout about AND the promises he's made are promises he CANNOT keep because they are outside the Senedd's remit. |
The last paragraph is key. | | | |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 20:10 - Jun 11 with 600 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 19:56 - Jun 11 by Gwyn737 |
The last paragraph is key. |
You'd think so. You'd think Welsh voters had enough of all the BS, the lies and deceit. Well at least they said they did when it was the tories.
For some absurd reason they are willing to give Farage a go when from the very outset he is clearly spouting BS. And they are further right than the tories. | | | |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 20:37 - Jun 11 with 585 views | max936 |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 19:53 - Jun 11 by SullutaCreturned |
Now that is a classic case of saying something without knowing all the info.
I don't vote Labour OR tory and have been highly critical of both. I have said repeatedly that those 2 parties have been guilty of ruining the Uk for the last 40-50 years.
I called Farage a failure because he has tried and failed to be an MP 7 times, finally making it in Clacton at the 8th attempt.
He was also a Euro MP who, while shouting out we should leave and being their biggest critic kept taking their money and now he takes their pension, a hypocrite too.
Don't worry, you're not alone. At various times Labour voters have called me a tory and tory voters have called me a left loony..
My point about policies was that while Farage has made promises to Wales, he has no policies to shout about AND the promises he's made are promises he CANNOT keep because they are outside the Senedd's remit. |
Farage is all about Farage that's his only interest, all he spouts is just his talking horse personality, he knows all that's wrong, but as little idea on how to put whats wrong right or how to pay for them. |  |
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| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 20:49 - Jun 11 with 571 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 19:53 - Jun 11 by SullutaCreturned |
Now that is a classic case of saying something without knowing all the info.
I don't vote Labour OR tory and have been highly critical of both. I have said repeatedly that those 2 parties have been guilty of ruining the Uk for the last 40-50 years.
I called Farage a failure because he has tried and failed to be an MP 7 times, finally making it in Clacton at the 8th attempt.
He was also a Euro MP who, while shouting out we should leave and being their biggest critic kept taking their money and now he takes their pension, a hypocrite too.
Don't worry, you're not alone. At various times Labour voters have called me a tory and tory voters have called me a left loony..
My point about policies was that while Farage has made promises to Wales, he has no policies to shout about AND the promises he's made are promises he CANNOT keep because they are outside the Senedd's remit. |
Last para spot on. | |
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| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 22:09 - Jun 11 with 517 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Farage wants to send Welsh people under ground again to get silicosis and not pay compensation for decades and not clean up the spoil heaps. A good call from an Essex point of view. |  |
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| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 09:50 - Jun 12 with 414 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 22:09 - Jun 11 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Farage wants to send Welsh people under ground again to get silicosis and not pay compensation for decades and not clean up the spoil heaps. A good call from an Essex point of view. |
Wales needs to exploit it natural resources. Why on earth is the UK importing coal when we have millions of tons of it available. We don't even need to send anyone underground open cast mining is safe, yet Drakeford and co closed down our last open cast site. | |
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| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 10:53 - Jun 12 with 374 views | Boundy |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 09:50 - Jun 12 by felixstowe_jack |
Wales needs to exploit it natural resources. Why on earth is the UK importing coal when we have millions of tons of it available. We don't even need to send anyone underground open cast mining is safe, yet Drakeford and co closed down our last open cast site. |
We've reduced our gas fields and the capabilities of extracting its resource but now pay Norway billions to import theirs. The worlds has gone mad. | |
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| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 12:17 - Jun 12 with 333 views | Flashberryjack |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 10:53 - Jun 12 by Boundy |
We've reduced our gas fields and the capabilities of extracting its resource but now pay Norway billions to import theirs. The worlds has gone mad. |
I don't think the whole world has gone mad, it just seems to me that the UK is madder than the rest.
What other country would give the job of foreign secretary to David Lammy. |  |
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| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 12:28 - Jun 12 with 322 views | Whiterockin |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 12:17 - Jun 12 by Flashberryjack |
I don't think the whole world has gone mad, it just seems to me that the UK is madder than the rest.
What other country would give the job of foreign secretary to David Lammy. |
One that makes Trump president? | | | |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 13:37 - Jun 12 with 288 views | Flashberryjack |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 12:28 - Jun 12 by Whiterockin |
One that makes Trump president? |
At least he puts his own country first, unlike Lammy. | |
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| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 14:58 - Jun 12 with 249 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 13:37 - Jun 12 by Flashberryjack |
At least he puts his own country first, unlike Lammy. |
Do you mean Russia ? | |
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| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 15:20 - Jun 12 with 224 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 14:58 - Jun 12 by Kilkennyjack |
Do you mean Russia ? |
That was because he was trying to pressurise Ukraine into signing the minerals deal. Zelensky said no first time.
A lot of Trumps bluster has been called out and he's had to backtrack...not that he admits to backtracking of course. Hasn't he been threatened with legal acion by California? | | | |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 15:23 - Jun 12 with 223 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 12:17 - Jun 12 by Flashberryjack |
I don't think the whole world has gone mad, it just seems to me that the UK is madder than the rest.
What other country would give the job of foreign secretary to David Lammy. |
Nah the whole world is barking.
We closed coal mines and oilfields and won't ipen up more gas or oil fields but then we have to poay a 500 million subsidy to renenwables compamies to NOT produce electricity because the grid cannot cope with all that electricity coming down from Scottish wind farms.
Totally batshit crazy. The infrastructure needed to be upgraded in time for the wind farms but as usual this country is arse backwards. | | | |
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