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War with Iran? (And China) 18:41 - Jun 22 with 2536 viewsSouthamptonfan

So Trump ordered the obliteration of Iranian nuclear sites. This is with the argument that they can't have nuclear weapons. Kier Starmer today "They can't have nuclear weapons".

I understand that Iran probably has bad intentions but my immediate thought is why can the US, the UK, Russia, N Korea etc have nuclear weapons but Iran can't? Serious question.

And my next thought is that this is Iraq all over again. If Iran react, as I am.sure they will, do we join the USA and take part in a war, a similar war that most agree was completely wrong during the Blair years?

Trump has just warned Iran that they will be blown to smithereens, if they don't do what it is told. China are now coming out on the side of Iran and Putin is meeting the Iran leader.

Will Iran be scared off by the might of the USA? Or will they retaliate. Worrying times.
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War with Iran? (And China) on 18:59 - Jun 22 with 2472 viewskentsouthampton

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War with Iran? (And China) on 19:04 - Jun 22 with 2450 viewsBLEEDRED

Likewise, why can Israel have Nuclear weapons? But don't have to comply with the Nuclear Confederation Rules (or something like that!!) and have to disclose details of their arsenal and be open to independent inspection?
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War with Iran? (And China) on 19:15 - Jun 22 with 2423 viewskingslandstand1

Who knows what on earth will happen next.
Trump seems to be winding everybody up and at a whim will just buggeroff and say sort it out yourself knowing full well that the USA itself will not physically suffer unlike, dare I say, possibly us, but almost certainly more Isrealis, Iranians, and anyone else that gets in the way? And who knows what the Iranians will do if the Chinese and Putin start "assisting" them. Lets throw the North Koreans in t the pot as well
Putin is probably laughing his head off and meanwhile the Ukranians are still falling
A very dangerous situation for all it seems

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War with Iran? (And China) on 19:16 - Jun 22 with 2429 viewsSouthamptonfan

War with Iran? (And China) on 19:04 - Jun 22 by BLEEDRED

Likewise, why can Israel have Nuclear weapons? But don't have to comply with the Nuclear Confederation Rules (or something like that!!) and have to disclose details of their arsenal and be open to independent inspection?


Well my thoughts exactly. I am assuming the West might have intelligence to suggest that Iran has bad intentions to do terrible things with their nuclear arms, potentially to Israel, but again we all remember the intelligence (lies) we had about Iraq having weapons of mass destruction. This will end being another disaster of terrible decisions made when we look back in history if not careful.

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War with Iran? (And China) on 19:44 - Jun 22 with 2392 views1885_SFC

Iran has vowed to wipe Israel off the face of the Earth.

Iran funds & arms the likes of Hezbollah, Hamas and the Houtis in Yemen to do its dirty work for them against Israel - until they (Iran) perfect their own nuclear missiles which can reach Israel. How far down the road were the Iranians in developing a nuke? Guess we'll never know for sure. One day the truth will come out in someone's autobiography no doubt.

Either way, and whatever you think of the Arab-Israeli 'problem' - I doubt none of this would have happened if it wasn't for the October 7th attack. To coin a well-known phrase - 'you reap what you sow'.

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War with Iran? (And China) on 22:27 - Jun 22 with 2182 viewsButty101

War with Iran? (And China) on 19:44 - Jun 22 by 1885_SFC

Iran has vowed to wipe Israel off the face of the Earth.

Iran funds & arms the likes of Hezbollah, Hamas and the Houtis in Yemen to do its dirty work for them against Israel - until they (Iran) perfect their own nuclear missiles which can reach Israel. How far down the road were the Iranians in developing a nuke? Guess we'll never know for sure. One day the truth will come out in someone's autobiography no doubt.

Either way, and whatever you think of the Arab-Israeli 'problem' - I doubt none of this would have happened if it wasn't for the October 7th attack. To coin a well-known phrase - 'you reap what you sow'.


And why did that happen> Because for years the Israelis have been taking land by force off the settled Palestine's . Plus the Israelis had thousands of Palestine's locked up for no reason and no will to free them. I wonder what Netanyahu thinks his imaginary god would say to him when he dies, as an instigator of mass murder?

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War with Iran? (And China) on 22:41 - Jun 22 with 2170 viewsHeisenberg

War with Iran? (And China) on 19:44 - Jun 22 by 1885_SFC

Iran has vowed to wipe Israel off the face of the Earth.

Iran funds & arms the likes of Hezbollah, Hamas and the Houtis in Yemen to do its dirty work for them against Israel - until they (Iran) perfect their own nuclear missiles which can reach Israel. How far down the road were the Iranians in developing a nuke? Guess we'll never know for sure. One day the truth will come out in someone's autobiography no doubt.

Either way, and whatever you think of the Arab-Israeli 'problem' - I doubt none of this would have happened if it wasn't for the October 7th attack. To coin a well-known phrase - 'you reap what you sow'.


‘None of this wouldn’t have happened were it not for the October attack’

The Palestinian people have been forced off their land. They have no rights. They cannot travel. They cannot live where they want. They are subject to daily restrictions. They cannot even grow anything or export goods without permissions from the Israeli state. Thousands are detained without trial or due process.

In 1900 what is now Israel was 95 per cent Arab. They are now restricted to a tiny part of land in Gaza and the West Bank. If you forcefully remove people from their homeland then subject them to an apartheid regime it will inevitably end with war and the type of atrocities we see and will continue to see.

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War with Iran? (And China) on 01:30 - Jun 23 with 2063 viewsGennaro_Contaldo

War with Iran? (And China) on 22:41 - Jun 22 by Heisenberg

‘None of this wouldn’t have happened were it not for the October attack’

The Palestinian people have been forced off their land. They have no rights. They cannot travel. They cannot live where they want. They are subject to daily restrictions. They cannot even grow anything or export goods without permissions from the Israeli state. Thousands are detained without trial or due process.

In 1900 what is now Israel was 95 per cent Arab. They are now restricted to a tiny part of land in Gaza and the West Bank. If you forcefully remove people from their homeland then subject them to an apartheid regime it will inevitably end with war and the type of atrocities we see and will continue to see.


"In 1900 what is now Israel was 95 per cent Arab" >> We are forced in this country to be multicultural. Yet these regions want "their land" - it's all so ridiculous and backwards.

Watch any US show and they'll proudly go on about being Italian, Jewish, Irish, even Dutch. Throw in the Latinos and Hispanics and it's a proper blend of backgrounds. Same with major cities in the UK. Except rather than Italian, Jewish etc., it's various African and middle Eastern nations.

Yet all these middle eastern nations seem to be behind the times. You're muslim, but are you the RIGHT type of muslim? You're jewish, oh we'll just kill you all, we want OUR homeland for OUR people, etc.

I'm sorry, but until all of these middle eastern areas embrace the fact that OTHER CULTURES exist, there will always be problems.

And for the record, I hope the current Iran regime gets obliterated as I've read a few things recently, culimating in the fact that the younger generation there DO actually want their countries to be more like the 'west' and more embracing.

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War with Iran? (And China) on 05:20 - Jun 23 with 2032 viewsjopreston

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I do wish people would think before berating. The fact of the world is very clear to see. Every leader of the powerhouse countries is as bad as each other. Obama dropped more bombs in his tenure than most have ever dropped. They are all bad people, every last one of them.

None of the links to present an image work, according to how to do it on this website, so I could only paste the link.
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War with Iran? (And China) on 06:30 - Jun 23 with 1989 viewsJellybaby

War with Iran? (And China) on 05:20 - Jun 23 by jopreston

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I do wish people would think before berating. The fact of the world is very clear to see. Every leader of the powerhouse countries is as bad as each other. Obama dropped more bombs in his tenure than most have ever dropped. They are all bad people, every last one of them.

None of the links to present an image work, according to how to do it on this website, so I could only paste the link.
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100%. This is copy and paste of Iraq.

October 7th likely false flag event - they always wanted Iran, so the oligarchs can bring regime change. Iran is one of the last sovereign nations that isn't part of the western led bank cartel and the globalist banksters can not allow that to continue. Problem, reaction, solution and we the people get sacrificed everytime.

I wholly disapprove of what you say and will defend to the death your right to say it.

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War with Iran? (And China) on 08:29 - Jun 23 with 1875 viewssaint22

War with Iran? (And China) on 06:30 - Jun 23 by Jellybaby

100%. This is copy and paste of Iraq.

October 7th likely false flag event - they always wanted Iran, so the oligarchs can bring regime change. Iran is one of the last sovereign nations that isn't part of the western led bank cartel and the globalist banksters can not allow that to continue. Problem, reaction, solution and we the people get sacrificed everytime.


They are all psychopaths
But Trump is the loosest cannon because he is a fool
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War with Iran? (And China) on 10:01 - Jun 23 with 1822 viewsJoiedevivre

War with Iran? (And China) on 06:30 - Jun 23 by Jellybaby

100%. This is copy and paste of Iraq.

October 7th likely false flag event - they always wanted Iran, so the oligarchs can bring regime change. Iran is one of the last sovereign nations that isn't part of the western led bank cartel and the globalist banksters can not allow that to continue. Problem, reaction, solution and we the people get sacrificed everytime.


I’m still anticipating Iraq 2.0. Not just in the “Israel says they’re getting / have a nuclear weapon” when U.S. intelligence agencies say no - my view is that Iran was going for a high % Enriched Uranium to scare off Israel et al; From an Iranian viewpoint one sees two things. Firstly, those neighbours who formerly gave up their nuclear enhancements were still invaded (Iraq, Libya, Syria). Secondly, they see an aggressive Israel with a nuclear weapon - the only one in the region. The only way to counter this and stop a ground invasion to topple IRGC would be for them to have a nuclear weapon to deter, and proxies (explaining Hez, Houthi, Ham) to counter even if Iran is invaded. In this case they are protected from regime change from multiple avenues.

But regime change will still be pushed by Israel, despite what they and the U.S. say. Iraq 2.0 is dependent upon how Iran reacts. They could close the Straits of Hormuz, destroying the world economy, but with the oil coming from neighbouring Arab nations like Saudi, no navy, friend or foe, will accept this. But the other option may be just as bad. If they choose to attack U.S. bases, Trump must respond - he’s said he would and he can’t look weak. This would surely take the form of regime change warfare.

I would be surprised if this doesn’t expand further. Even sleeper cells in the West could push into further war and intervention. And with the Israeli’s desiring this war, who’s to say there may not be some false flags here?
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War with Iran? (And China) on 10:12 - Jun 23 with 1806 viewsPatfromPoole

Potential fun and games next year now that Iran have qualified for the World Cup……

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War with Iran? (And China) on 23:18 - Jun 23 with 1539 viewsSouthamptonfan

Total ceasefire agreed according to Trump. Well that's a very quick resolution!

https://news.sky.com/story/israel-iran-live-trump-claims-a-total-ceasefire-has-b
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War with Iran? (And China) on 06:13 - Jun 24 with 1462 viewsSalisburySaint

War with Iran? (And China) on 23:18 - Jun 23 by Southamptonfan

Total ceasefire agreed according to Trump. Well that's a very quick resolution!

https://news.sky.com/story/israel-iran-live-trump-claims-a-total-ceasefire-has-b
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Hopefully this is true, but unfortunately what Trump often says and reality are poles apart
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War with Iran? (And China) on 10:40 - Jun 24 with 1333 viewskentsouthampton

War with Iran? (And China) on 05:20 - Jun 23 by jopreston

https://ibb.co/TqnXsdmZ

I do wish people would think before berating. The fact of the world is very clear to see. Every leader of the powerhouse countries is as bad as each other. Obama dropped more bombs in his tenure than most have ever dropped. They are all bad people, every last one of them.

None of the links to present an image work, according to how to do it on this website, so I could only paste the link.
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All lies.
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War with Iran? (And China) on 11:12 - Jun 24 with 1295 viewskentsouthampton

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War with Iran? (And China) on 13:46 - Jun 24 with 1186 views1885_SFC


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War with Iran? (And China) on 18:17 - Jun 24 with 1079 viewsSouthamptonfan

War with Iran? (And China) on 06:13 - Jun 24 by SalisburySaint

Hopefully this is true, but unfortunately what Trump often says and reality are poles apart


Looks like Trump's force and aggression has indeed forced a ceasefire between Iran and Israel. Trump seemingly does have a lot of power and influence on leaders across the world. I would say that at least he acts and gets things done, whilst others just stand back and talk to the media. However long it lasts, we shall see.
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War with Iran? (And China) on 06:19 - Jun 26 with 884 viewssledger

trump is trying to take care of a problem that will be x10 worse in 5-10 years time
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War with Iran? (And China) on 14:30 - Jun 26 with 715 viewskentsouthampton

War with Iran? (And China) on 18:17 - Jun 24 by Southamptonfan

Looks like Trump's force and aggression has indeed forced a ceasefire between Iran and Israel. Trump seemingly does have a lot of power and influence on leaders across the world. I would say that at least he acts and gets things done, whilst others just stand back and talk to the media. However long it lasts, we shall see.
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War with Iran? (And China) on 17:01 - Jun 26 with 611 viewsSouthamptonfan

War with Iran? (And China) on 14:30 - Jun 26 by kentsouthampton



At least we have Starmer (who I voted for) taking away money from pensioners and now the disabled. Don't remember these being in the manifesto. We will soon have a Trump of our own according to the latest polls, with Reform well in the lead.

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War with Iran? (And China) on 08:44 - Jun 27 with 463 viewssledger

the state pension is probably one triple lock away from being taxed,not a good look for this s hithole of a country is it
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