| The RochdaleAFC.com Podcast - Episode 84 on 15:59 - Jun 27 with 2673 views | 442Dale |
Only 15 mins in but this is a must listen, great insight.
Already interesting thoughts on how important a positive relationship with the council is and a stark warning about how the behaviour of fans can negatively affect their club. |  |
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| The RochdaleAFC.com Podcast - Episode 84 on 17:23 - Jun 27 with 2551 views | TalkingSutty |
A must listen for every Dale fan that. He's a impressive fella Jamie Willoughby, gave a great insight into everything. Thanks to the chaps who hosted the discussion and the questions asked, you did a great job. One thing that i took as a massive positive from the discussion was the close working relationship that the club now has with the Council. That was great to hear, its important going forward. [Post edited 27 Jun 17:38]
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| The RochdaleAFC.com Podcast - Episode 84 on 17:30 - Jun 27 with 2528 views | KnavesmireBob |
'All we can try and do as a club is be as transparent as possible with the decisions that we're taking and the reasons we're taking them'.
That's it in a nutshell for me. They're a breath of fresh air and get us so well. Cracking episode again lads. |  | | |
| The RochdaleAFC.com Podcast - Episode 84 on 21:01 - Jun 27 with 2346 views | judd |
What a fantastic podcast that really needs to reach the whole fanbase and beyond. |  |
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| The RochdaleAFC.com Podcast - Episode 84 on 23:59 - Jun 27 with 2159 views | wozzrafc |
Couldn’t agree more. What a great listen, and so refreshing to an actually hear a plan for the future.
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| The RochdaleAFC.com Podcast - Episode 84 on 06:54 - Jun 28 with 2021 views | TalkingSutty |
| The RochdaleAFC.com Podcast - Episode 84 on 23:59 - Jun 27 by wozzrafc |
Couldn’t agree more. What a great listen, and so refreshing to an actually hear a plan for the future.
We are in good hands |
Yes, the plans all sound very reasonable but you are left with a sense of the eye watering sums of money required to project the club forward in respect of stadium redevelopment, training facilities, new pitch, playing budget etc. All of that is a lot of heavy lifting for the Ogden family irrespective of how much combined wealth they have.
I would like to ask if the Ogdens have considered seeking outside investment to come on board with them and help with the cost. Trusted people who they already have an association with. This combined with a better relationship with RMBC could accelerate progress. I was looking at the plans for the Oldham sports village that has been announced, its funded by different stakeholders but will ultimately be of benefit to the football club and the wider community. The footprint around Boundary Park makes it a ideal location, unfortunately it wouldn't be possible at Spotland.
Building very strong links with the council is one of the safest ways of keeping the football club safe i think, a lot of clubs do it. There was a constant mantra from the club prior to the Ogden takeover that the council aren't interested ( one that i never believed), well it sounds like they obviously are. I suppose it depends on who is making the approach and who is doing the negotiating and how they engage with people. Why not try to incorporate the council into the football club, maybe give them a part share of the club so that they see it as a valuable community asset that needs preserving. Doing all of that makes it easier when it comes to negotiating things like redevelopment and other plans further down the line. Borougwide there must be hundreds, maybe thousands of people employed by the council, give out some free tickets and engage with them, same with the NHS providers.
It's brilliant that we now have people who know what they are doing when it comes to communication and engaging with people, when you dont have that you become cut adrift. Everybody knows everybody in Rochdale and if you kick one then everybody limps, especially in the business community. Having the right people engaging on behalf of the club is so important and it seems we now have that. I'm starting to sense that the club is on its way back, bridges are being built, relationships formed, plans put in place, the club is starting to wake up again. [Post edited 28 Jun 7:26]
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| The RochdaleAFC.com Podcast - Episode 84 on 08:55 - Jun 28 with 1904 views | D_Alien |
| The RochdaleAFC.com Podcast - Episode 84 on 06:54 - Jun 28 by TalkingSutty |
Yes, the plans all sound very reasonable but you are left with a sense of the eye watering sums of money required to project the club forward in respect of stadium redevelopment, training facilities, new pitch, playing budget etc. All of that is a lot of heavy lifting for the Ogden family irrespective of how much combined wealth they have.
I would like to ask if the Ogdens have considered seeking outside investment to come on board with them and help with the cost. Trusted people who they already have an association with. This combined with a better relationship with RMBC could accelerate progress. I was looking at the plans for the Oldham sports village that has been announced, its funded by different stakeholders but will ultimately be of benefit to the football club and the wider community. The footprint around Boundary Park makes it a ideal location, unfortunately it wouldn't be possible at Spotland.
Building very strong links with the council is one of the safest ways of keeping the football club safe i think, a lot of clubs do it. There was a constant mantra from the club prior to the Ogden takeover that the council aren't interested ( one that i never believed), well it sounds like they obviously are. I suppose it depends on who is making the approach and who is doing the negotiating and how they engage with people. Why not try to incorporate the council into the football club, maybe give them a part share of the club so that they see it as a valuable community asset that needs preserving. Doing all of that makes it easier when it comes to negotiating things like redevelopment and other plans further down the line. Borougwide there must be hundreds, maybe thousands of people employed by the council, give out some free tickets and engage with them, same with the NHS providers.
It's brilliant that we now have people who know what they are doing when it comes to communication and engaging with people, when you dont have that you become cut adrift. Everybody knows everybody in Rochdale and if you kick one then everybody limps, especially in the business community. Having the right people engaging on behalf of the club is so important and it seems we now have that. I'm starting to sense that the club is on its way back, bridges are being built, relationships formed, plans put in place, the club is starting to wake up again. [Post edited 28 Jun 7:26]
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I think another factor must be the revitalised relationship with Hornets. It was never a good idea to be at loggerheads with them, and whilst there may have been perfectly good reasons why (such as petty snobbery) it's well-known that former councils had Hornet's interests above Dale's. That's probably now changed and allows for the much better, even.mutually beneficial relationship which ties in with the vision the Ogdens and their associates have for the way the stadium can become a real community hub, and beyond [Post edited 28 Jun 9:05]
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| The RochdaleAFC.com Podcast - Episode 84 on 09:30 - Jun 28 with 1835 views | EllDale |
Despite what people may sometimes think councillors and local government officials aren’t daft.
They can see the further potential benefits of links to the Ogden Trust for all sorts of things. | | | |
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| The RochdaleAFC.com Podcast - Episode 84 on 11:31 - Jun 28 with 1706 views | TalkingSutty |
| The RochdaleAFC.com Podcast - Episode 84 on 08:55 - Jun 28 by D_Alien |
I think another factor must be the revitalised relationship with Hornets. It was never a good idea to be at loggerheads with them, and whilst there may have been perfectly good reasons why (such as petty snobbery) it's well-known that former councils had Hornet's interests above Dale's. That's probably now changed and allows for the much better, even.mutually beneficial relationship which ties in with the vision the Ogdens and their associates have for the way the stadium can become a real community hub, and beyond [Post edited 28 Jun 9:05]
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Great point, I've never seen Hornets play but realise the history that the club has in the Town and also the love that their supporters must have for their club. Exactly the same feelings that we have. Both Clubs need preserving for future generations. | | | |
| The RochdaleAFC.com Podcast - Episode 84 on 04:07 - Jun 29 with 1296 views | James1980 |
Great listen, thank you guys for organising this and to Jamie and the club for agreeing to him being interviewed. On the subject of funding future projects aren't there a number of unsold shares? Could these be converted to non voting cumulative preference shares with a coupon of say 1.5% above inflation. | |
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| The RochdaleAFC.com Podcast - Episode 84 on 10:19 - Jun 29 with 1182 views | jonahwhereru |
| The RochdaleAFC.com Podcast - Episode 84 on 04:07 - Jun 29 by James1980 |
Great listen, thank you guys for organising this and to Jamie and the club for agreeing to him being interviewed. On the subject of funding future projects aren't there a number of unsold shares? Could these be converted to non voting cumulative preference shares with a coupon of say 1.5% above inflation. |
Imaginative thinking James. Many people have gone to the financial well at least once to help the club. If the day came when this would be needed I suspect it would be associates of the Ogden family that might step up. Not that that would be a bad thing. | | | |
| The RochdaleAFC.com Podcast - Episode 84 on 12:50 - Jun 30 with 751 views | 100notout |
| The RochdaleAFC.com Podcast - Episode 84 on 04:07 - Jun 29 by James1980 |
Great listen, thank you guys for organising this and to Jamie and the club for agreeing to him being interviewed. On the subject of funding future projects aren't there a number of unsold shares? Could these be converted to non voting cumulative preference shares with a coupon of say 1.5% above inflation. |
Great idea James and I would suggest also that they could be redeemable preference shares.
I guess there are a good few fans with "spare" money in a building society earning a paltry amount of interest that might now consider investing in the club given the current ownership structure.
Many fans pumped a lot of their hand earned cash into the club over recent years. I think its fair to say the vast majority if not all of them fully accepted that their "investment" was actually more of a donation. Whilst a redeemable preference share issue wouldn't be without risk for "investors" it would IMHO be an acceptable risk whilst providing equity funding for the club at a favourable cost. | |
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| The RochdaleAFC.com Podcast - Episode 84 on 14:13 - Jul 2 with 289 views | Cedar_Room |
Well done on the episode, it was a great interview full of details I had never heard anyone from the club discuss before.
There was a lot of talk about growing revenue off the pitch - making the most of the stadium, getting more fans to attend etc. What I found surprising and also disheartening was that there was nothing at all about generating revenues on the pitch i.e. through player sales. I had always thought that this was the only real sustainable way forward for a club like ours - sell on players for a big profit either developed through our academy or bought in for little money. Is this no longer a thing in football? Are we just not even considering it a possibility as a way of growing the club? I appreciate that it's not guaranteed revenue, but there's also never been more money swilling around at the top so it doesn't seem outrageous to think we might be able to develop at least some players and sell them up the pyramid. Has this been mentioned anywhere else by the Ogdens? |  | | |
| The RochdaleAFC.com Podcast - Episode 84 on 14:33 - Jul 2 with 270 views | TalkingSutty |
| The RochdaleAFC.com Podcast - Episode 84 on 14:13 - Jul 2 by Cedar_Room |
Well done on the episode, it was a great interview full of details I had never heard anyone from the club discuss before.
There was a lot of talk about growing revenue off the pitch - making the most of the stadium, getting more fans to attend etc. What I found surprising and also disheartening was that there was nothing at all about generating revenues on the pitch i.e. through player sales. I had always thought that this was the only real sustainable way forward for a club like ours - sell on players for a big profit either developed through our academy or bought in for little money. Is this no longer a thing in football? Are we just not even considering it a possibility as a way of growing the club? I appreciate that it's not guaranteed revenue, but there's also never been more money swilling around at the top so it doesn't seem outrageous to think we might be able to develop at least some players and sell them up the pyramid. Has this been mentioned anywhere else by the Ogdens? |
Well we no longer have the academy and it seems that non league players don't seem to generate their market worth like they used to do anymore. We also have to be wary of selling our best players while we are fully focused on trying to win promotion to the EFL. We are weakening the team and our chances everytime we do that. I think everything you mention in your post becomes relevant once we return to the EFL and get the academy firing again. | | | |
| The RochdaleAFC.com Podcast - Episode 84 on 14:50 - Jul 2 with 241 views | 49thseason |
https://rochdaleafc.co.uk/dalereintroduceu8u16boysteams/#:~:text=He%20will%20be%
AI Overview
Rochdale AFC has reintroduced its Under-8 to Under-16 boys' teams and has appointed a new coaching team to lead the youth development program. This team, led by James, Ryan, and Lee, has experience working with young players at various clubs in the North West, including Accrington Stanley's Development Centre. The reintroduction of the younger age groups is part of a broader initiative to attract and develop young talent, with the goal of providing opportunities for players to progress to the first team.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
Reintroduction of U8-U16 teams:
Rochdale has brought back its youth teams from Under-8 to Under-16, which were previously impacted by changes to the club's funding and EPPP (Elite Player Performance Plan) status.
New Coaching Team:
James, Ryan, and Lee will lead the coaching staff, bringing experience from Accrington Stanley's Development Centre and other clubs in the region.
Focus on Development:
The club aims to create a program that attracts and develops top young talent in the North West, with a clear pathway to potential first-team opportunities.
Community Trust Involvement:
The Boys Development Centre, which includes players aged 9-16, is now managed by Rochdale AFC Community Trust.
Transition to 3G pitches:
From September, all youth development sessions will be held on 3G pitches and will be led by UEFA qualified coaches.
My understsnding is that some of the staff and students will be coming to Rochdale following Accringtons decision to close its level 3 Academy for financial reasons.
https://trainingground.guru/accrington-announce-closure-of-category-three-academ |  | | |
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