| Morecambe on 07:11 - Aug 15 with 715 views | TalkingSutty |
The clocks ticking. Apparently Whittingham and Punjib Warriors might have struck a deal, i suspect its another can kicking exercise. The deadline for Morecambe is the 20th August.
It will always be important for fans and shareholders to be vigilant when it comes to who is coming into the boardroom, who is in a position of influence and who has access to sensitive information. As a club we've found that out the hard way. The perils of the Trust becoming too close to the CEO and Directors was instrumental in Bottomley having a free hand to do what he wanted with the club unchallenged. A Trust and influential life long fans compromised. That's a uncomfortable truth.
We are on a new journey now and i hope lessons have been learned. Soon we will probably be looking at putting a new Trust Director in place, a process that was supposedly open to everybody but the job spec will ensure that wont be the case. That's fair enough but what cant be compromised is the professionalism of that person and his reputation as a trustworthy person with no criminal background. The Ogden family definitely don't deserve that. That person is representing the fanbase. He or she will have access to sensitive information and also personal details, we have supporters who are vulnerable and its important their details are protected and not shared by anybody at the club. I include the Trust in that, they also hold details of probably 800 individuals. Again, some of who are vulnerable adults. This is important to me and my friends will know why.
I'm assuming the club will be doing CRB and background checks on Trust Director applicants and would hope this has also been normal practice for anybody joining the Trust board with access to members personal details? It's a legal requirement to do that and best practice. It's something that i'm going to contact the club about to ensure this is happening. [Post edited 15 Aug 8:45]
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| Morecambe on 09:27 - Aug 15 with 447 views | D_Alien |
| Morecambe on 07:11 - Aug 15 by TalkingSutty |
The clocks ticking. Apparently Whittingham and Punjib Warriors might have struck a deal, i suspect its another can kicking exercise. The deadline for Morecambe is the 20th August.
It will always be important for fans and shareholders to be vigilant when it comes to who is coming into the boardroom, who is in a position of influence and who has access to sensitive information. As a club we've found that out the hard way. The perils of the Trust becoming too close to the CEO and Directors was instrumental in Bottomley having a free hand to do what he wanted with the club unchallenged. A Trust and influential life long fans compromised. That's a uncomfortable truth.
We are on a new journey now and i hope lessons have been learned. Soon we will probably be looking at putting a new Trust Director in place, a process that was supposedly open to everybody but the job spec will ensure that wont be the case. That's fair enough but what cant be compromised is the professionalism of that person and his reputation as a trustworthy person with no criminal background. The Ogden family definitely don't deserve that. That person is representing the fanbase. He or she will have access to sensitive information and also personal details, we have supporters who are vulnerable and its important their details are protected and not shared by anybody at the club. I include the Trust in that, they also hold details of probably 800 individuals. Again, some of who are vulnerable adults. This is important to me and my friends will know why.
I'm assuming the club will be doing CRB and background checks on Trust Director applicants and would hope this has also been normal practice for anybody joining the Trust board with access to members personal details? It's a legal requirement to do that and best practice. It's something that i'm going to contact the club about to ensure this is happening. [Post edited 15 Aug 8:45]
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You raise some points there that some will balk at, take umbrage. However, access to personal details was utilised during the Bottomley period to put pressure on them, and that can never be allowed to happen again, so your points are valid
As for the job spec, we await the minutes - STILL - from the Trust EGM of several weeks ago now, which are pertinent to that job spec - it's not a 'given' in its current form
The Morecambe debacle is an awful reminder that we got very lucky, through having such a vigilant and pro-active fanbase at Dale. The future can't be known, so that must continue, both within and without the Trust [Post edited 15 Aug 9:30]
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| Morecambe on 09:44 - Aug 15 with 380 views | TalkingSutty |
| Morecambe on 09:27 - Aug 15 by D_Alien |
You raise some points there that some will balk at, take umbrage. However, access to personal details was utilised during the Bottomley period to put pressure on them, and that can never be allowed to happen again, so your points are valid
As for the job spec, we await the minutes - STILL - from the Trust EGM of several weeks ago now, which are pertinent to that job spec - it's not a 'given' in its current form
The Morecambe debacle is an awful reminder that we got very lucky, through having such a vigilant and pro-active fanbase at Dale. The future can't be known, so that must continue, both within and without the Trust [Post edited 15 Aug 9:30]
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My own personal details were compromised during Bottomleys timè at the club. I've had many instances of not receiving updates from the Trust and also nothing from the club in relation to shareholders meetings etc. I've had to submit the same contact details on several occassions to the club and the Trust.
I know numerous people who have had problems in relation to not receiving updates from the Trust. They've posted the problem on this forum and confronted the Trust personally about it. When its questioned its never their fault. Well it obviously is and peoples personal details are going missing. I'm no longer a member of the trust so that doesnt matter anymore. It shouldn't be happening though. In fairness i've had no issues with the football club since the Ogden takeover, communication has been good.
The way that the Trust EGM was conducted was a disgrace in my opinion, trust members being treated with disdain and ridicule from the moment the meeting started. Those present know how it was conducted from the very start, that set the tone. The fact that one of our most respected fans and a former Trust Chairman felt the need to walk out of the meeting tells you all you need to know. [Post edited 15 Aug 10:11]
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| Morecambe on 10:05 - Aug 15 with 305 views | D_Alien |
| Morecambe on 09:44 - Aug 15 by TalkingSutty |
My own personal details were compromised during Bottomleys timè at the club. I've had many instances of not receiving updates from the Trust and also nothing from the club in relation to shareholders meetings etc. I've had to submit the same contact details on several occassions to the club and the Trust.
I know numerous people who have had problems in relation to not receiving updates from the Trust. They've posted the problem on this forum and confronted the Trust personally about it. When its questioned its never their fault. Well it obviously is and peoples personal details are going missing. I'm no longer a member of the trust so that doesnt matter anymore. It shouldn't be happening though. In fairness i've had no issues with the football club since the Ogden takeover, communication has been good.
The way that the Trust EGM was conducted was a disgrace in my opinion, trust members being treated with disdain and ridicule from the moment the meeting started. Those present know how it was conducted from the very start, that set the tone. The fact that one of our most respected fans and a former Trust Chairman felt the need to walk out of the meeting tells you all you need to know. [Post edited 15 Aug 10:11]
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One can only imagine that's one of the reasons it's proving problematic to provide minutes
Also worth noting that inaccurate, or incomplete minutes can be challenged
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