| season not looking good 17:33 - Jul 12 with 6074 views | digswellhoop |
oh shit |  | | |  |
| season not looking good on 17:43 - Jul 12 with 4064 views | ted_hendrix |
Cheer up FFS, this place is like a bastard morgue. |  |
| My Father had a profound influence on me, he was a lunatic. |
| |
| season not looking good on 17:53 - Jul 12 with 3989 views | numptydumpty |
Yes its nailed on, we finish bottom and adrift also !!!
Nonsense....
Celar today proving he is fifth choice striker and only player up front the whole game who was a recognised striker
Preseason, is about trying formations and players. And we could not have had too more contrasting performances. But plenty of time.
Positives so far
Esquerdinha, Mbeunge, Akildileni, Morgan, Tuck, Vale, Richards, Dembele, Kelman, Chair and Poku.
Negatives
Walsh, Bennie, Field, Celar
Think we can judge the season ahead a little more after the Brentford game.
No meltdowns yet, please !!! [Post edited 12 Jul 17:55]
|  |
| |
| season not looking good (n/t) on 17:59 - Jul 12 with 3950 views | rbee |
If Field is a negative then my starting 11 would be all negatives.
I cannot understand why you list all those players as positives.
You are right though, it is too early to really get a feel for next season. Hopefully over the next few weeks there will be more players incoming and we will grab some good loans.
I am willing to give Celar time to prove himself bearing in mind he has been out injured for so long.
[Post edited 12 Jul 18:09]
|  | | |
| season not looking good on 18:22 - Jul 12 with 3843 views | QPRConor2000 |
Coventry lost to a Portuguese side today who finished in 15th.
Results mean nothing in pre season. The whole point is to try different systems and personel as well as building fitness.
What is it with some of our fans saying were going to have a terrible season based on one result in pre season?
In a way im glad its happened this early on in pre season cause it gives Julien time to work with the squad.
Im sure he would of learnt a lot today and thats the most important thing. [Post edited 13 Jul 8:30]
| | | |
| season not looking good on 18:28 - Jul 12 with 3796 views | rbee |
My pragmatic view of next season isn't based upon todays result.
It's based upon a new manager, a squad that we know well, many players struggling with fitness and Profit and Sustainability holding a hand around our throat. | | | |
| season not looking good (n/t) on 18:35 - Jul 12 with 3738 views | numptydumpty |
| season not looking good (n/t) on 17:59 - Jul 12 by rbee |
If Field is a negative then my starting 11 would be all negatives.
I cannot understand why you list all those players as positives.
You are right though, it is too early to really get a feel for next season. Hopefully over the next few weeks there will be more players incoming and we will grab some good loans.
I am willing to give Celar time to prove himself bearing in mind he has been out injured for so long.
[Post edited 12 Jul 18:09]
|
These players played well, purely based on two preseason games.
Am a fan of Sam Field but in these two games he has not performed. Watch a fabulous goal he scored today for evidence.
My views just about the two games, not necessarily the season ahead.
However, regards Celar, he doesn't try though. He has proven it time after time after time.
Stephan is seeing who wants to play and who doesn't. I seriously cannot understand why this bloke has quite a few supporters for us. He doesn't want to be here. His performances scream this out big time.
If I am proven wrong, I will eat my hat. But seriously do you believe he will !!! [Post edited 12 Jul 18:40]
| |
| |
| season not looking good on 18:51 - Jul 12 with 3652 views | rbee |
I wouldn't describe myself as a Celar fan but want to give him a chance.
Soon after actually scoring some goals he was wiped out for the season. | | | |
| season not looking good on 19:56 - Jul 12 with 3407 views | numptydumpty |
His performance today was shocking
Zero effort is what annoys me about him | |
| |
Login to get fewer ads
| season not looking good on 20:01 - Jul 12 with 3390 views | DannyPaddox |
Birmingham v Seville
About to ko in the Algarve
Irrelevant or a marker? |  | | |
| season not looking good on 20:18 - Jul 12 with 3318 views | Tonto |
Good to see we have our boo boy for the year sorted nice and early.
The truth is we won't know how good our season will be until 9th August, probably about 4.50. Based on last season Preston are a team like us middle to.bottom of the league. Beat them and maybe we stand a chance, lose and it doesnt look good. |  |
| |
| season not looking good on 20:46 - Jul 12 with 3193 views | Malintabuk |
It's understandable there is a lot of angst tonight. It is never easy losing a game, albeit a PSF... but to lose the way we did is enough to have us all worried
It really was bordering on the abysmal. I had no actual idea what Walsh was upto today. He was beyond poor. Bennie was totally lost, and that RB experiment never lasted long
Celar totally agree with the post, he really looks like a man who doesn't want to be here, and I think we are a fan base who now doesn't want him to be
Next Friday will be interesting... I believe Kelman is due to join this week, and must surely play.
Does today mean that Stephan is going to have to stop experimenting, and play a full a side as he can, just basically to get some cohesion
It was not a very good day at the office. Pretty sure that never went to plan. | | | |
| season not looking good on 20:54 - Jul 12 with 3153 views | bosh67 |
Wow this really is early to be writing the whole season off. I mean some were yesterday after the second kit reveal but this really is early to be writing off the players, the coaching staff, the board, etc. |  |
| |
| season not looking good (n/t) on 20:56 - Jul 12 with 3134 views | QPunkR |
| season not looking good (n/t) on 18:35 - Jul 12 by numptydumpty |
These players played well, purely based on two preseason games.
Am a fan of Sam Field but in these two games he has not performed. Watch a fabulous goal he scored today for evidence.
My views just about the two games, not necessarily the season ahead.
However, regards Celar, he doesn't try though. He has proven it time after time after time.
Stephan is seeing who wants to play and who doesn't. I seriously cannot understand why this bloke has quite a few supporters for us. He doesn't want to be here. His performances scream this out big time.
If I am proven wrong, I will eat my hat. But seriously do you believe he will !!! [Post edited 12 Jul 18:40]
|
I'm reasonably sure it's not that Celar doesn't try, it's just that he's fukcing abysmal at the sport. Rarely had he looked like he's ever seen a football during his time with us, much less has any idea what to do with it |  |
| |
| season not looking good (n/t) on 21:26 - Jul 12 with 3039 views | numptydumpty |
| season not looking good (n/t) on 17:59 - Jul 12 by rbee |
If Field is a negative then my starting 11 would be all negatives.
I cannot understand why you list all those players as positives.
You are right though, it is too early to really get a feel for next season. Hopefully over the next few weeks there will be more players incoming and we will grab some good loans.
I am willing to give Celar time to prove himself bearing in mind he has been out injured for so long.
[Post edited 12 Jul 18:09]
|
Give Celar time...
Really ???
He had 20 games last season. Didn't even touch the ball or tackle one player for the first 18 games. Yet scored 2 excellent goals in game 19. But already looking again like reverting to type.
Yet there are those that would keep Celar this season and sell Kelman.
Surely Kelman deserves a chance....
I can't understand these viewpoints.... | |
| |
| season not looking good on 22:01 - Jul 12 with 2948 views | mikechaj |
All of us have watched enough football to be reasonable judges of a player, particular after 20 odd games. In my case first QPR game in 1968.
Celar is one of the worst footballers I’ve seen. He seems to have no idea where/how he’s expected to play, he doesn’t run, never anticipates, can’t tackle and can’t head. He looks totally lost and never gets involved. The most ineffectual striker I’ve ever seen. And despite 2 lovely goals in one match, that will never change.
After injury and recovery, you’d think he would put a proper shift in, but not one thing has changed. He looks disinterested and we effectively play with 10 men when he’s on the pitch as he offers literally…nothing. The difference between him and the limited Frey is enormousl. Look at last season’s first 20 games - bottom and Celar played during most of that period. Had he not been injured and we had continued to pick him, I’m pretty sure we would have been relegated. If anyone will take him, even on loan , get rid as fast as possible. | | | |
| season not looking good on 22:12 - Jul 12 with 2896 views | wombat |
| season not looking good on 22:01 - Jul 12 by mikechaj |
All of us have watched enough football to be reasonable judges of a player, particular after 20 odd games. In my case first QPR game in 1968.
Celar is one of the worst footballers I’ve seen. He seems to have no idea where/how he’s expected to play, he doesn’t run, never anticipates, can’t tackle and can’t head. He looks totally lost and never gets involved. The most ineffectual striker I’ve ever seen. And despite 2 lovely goals in one match, that will never change.
After injury and recovery, you’d think he would put a proper shift in, but not one thing has changed. He looks disinterested and we effectively play with 10 men when he’s on the pitch as he offers literally…nothing. The difference between him and the limited Frey is enormousl. Look at last season’s first 20 games - bottom and Celar played during most of that period. Had he not been injured and we had continued to pick him, I’m pretty sure we would have been relegated. If anyone will take him, even on loan , get rid as fast as possible. |
Don’t even think it’s clears fault , he wa the wrong player from day one , with the team setting up with a loan striker to bring other into the game ,you would look at celar for one moment as the right choice , see his games for his previous club , heas box poacher not a worker out side the box , so the question is why was he even considered to be player to play that role up front ? It’s the Isla of use sticking what we want into an apple max and coming up with him , prob never seen hi. In the flesh playing an actual game of football , it’s numbers simple as that . |  |
| |
| season not looking good (n/t) on 22:50 - Jul 12 with 2779 views | rbee |
| season not looking good (n/t) on 21:26 - Jul 12 by numptydumpty |
Give Celar time...
Really ???
He had 20 games last season. Didn't even touch the ball or tackle one player for the first 18 games. Yet scored 2 excellent goals in game 19. But already looking again like reverting to type.
Yet there are those that would keep Celar this season and sell Kelman.
Surely Kelman deserves a chance....
I can't understand these viewpoints.... |
Have you just woken up? You have already replied to my post!
What is the difference between Celar, Varane and Madsen? All three were hammered and written off by many a few weeks in to the season. With time Varane came good. Before the end of the season some fans were saying that Madsen was doing better.
I repeat I am not a great Celar fan and if a club offered cash for him, happy days. But whilst he is our player, whilst the Head Coach plays him then yes, I will give him time, just like the club gave Furlong, Helguson etc time after fans had written them off.
I have previously given my thoughts on Kelman. In my opinion we should build the team around him, a player we know can score goals. But I don't think we will do that, mess around with him like we always have done so we may as well sell him whilst there is interest.
Apologies for the down vote, a slip of the mouse whilst looking for the reply button. | | | |
| season not looking good (n/t) on 01:56 - Jul 13 with 2467 views | strikerace |
| season not looking good (n/t) on 21:26 - Jul 12 by numptydumpty |
Give Celar time...
Really ???
He had 20 games last season. Didn't even touch the ball or tackle one player for the first 18 games. Yet scored 2 excellent goals in game 19. But already looking again like reverting to type.
Yet there are those that would keep Celar this season and sell Kelman.
Surely Kelman deserves a chance....
I can't understand these viewpoints.... |
Giving Celar more time, lol
What has he ever proved he would do with more time?
I'd actually support giving Richards more time before Celar | | | |
| season not looking good on 06:44 - Jul 13 with 2247 views | Hoopstar |
If someone did offer a decent fee for Celar I would but tempted to sell up and move on as far from convinced he has what it takes to be a Champ striker - but I have been very wrong very many times.
What I would say in his defence is this is a bloke who is playing his first 'competitive' games since a serious injury that kept him out for over half a year. He is not going to be at peak fitness and charging around so saying things like he's reverted to type based on two friendlies is a bit hasty. It takes most players time to trust their bodies again after serious injury and get that sharpness back. Some, like Jenas, decide to just play a non-contact version of the sport after injuries...
Best role I can see for him if he does stay is the 70th minute sub to replace Kelman. I think he does have a bit of anticipation about him - he missed a few good chances based on movement in his first few games with us, and had a good attempt vs Stevenage. Perhaps this is wasting the opportunity for a younger forward like Dillon or Hassan to get some minutes here or there when other forwards, as they will be, are out injured. |  | | |
| season not looking good on 07:09 - Jul 13 with 2196 views | Rsole |
Yesterday was seriously bad - total reset required because that effectively wrote off must of the promising stuff coming out of the training videos and updates, as well as the Stevenage game.
Castellon outplayed us comprehensively - all over the pitch - with very little in reply. A well prepared/coached team with a solid system and some decent players who clearly know each other’s game.
By comparison, we were a complete and utter shambles. Even the better players like Morrison came unstuck as the deterioration unfolded.
You could have played the best striker in the world up front yesterday and they wouldn’t have scored because they’d never have got the ball in the first half.
The one strike on goal we had, was on our own goal….
It was marginally better second half but that’s like saying John Prescott was better looking than Roy Hattersley.
And who had the best chance in the second half - Taylor Richards. |  |
| Those possessed by devils, try and keep them under control a bit, can't you ?
|
| |
| season not looking good (n/t) on 07:11 - Jul 13 with 2190 views | Padulas_Shampoo |
| season not looking good (n/t) on 01:56 - Jul 13 by strikerace |
Giving Celar more time, lol
What has he ever proved he would do with more time?
I'd actually support giving Richards more time before Celar |
Well that’s just absurd. Richards has had three years and failed to effect a single game for us or Cambridge. Celar has essentially had about 3 months. He’s struggled but was a match winner in a vital away game.
Very unlikely we’ll be able to shift Celar this summer. Kelman only has 12 months on his contract so if he won’t sign a new one they basically have to sell.
A couple of people here missing the irony that they’re writing Celar off as useless in favour of another striker who has previously been written off. |  | | |
| season not looking good on 08:09 - Jul 13 with 2066 views | dmm |
We have this discussion every year. It's remarkable how much one game of football affects our assessment of how a season will pan out.
Last week we won 5-0 and most of us were positive. This week we lost and for many the world has caved in. There's no doubt that each of the next 4 preseason games will have similar effects.
It is a normal human trait to be heavily influenced by what happens in the now moment. However, in football, we should all try to follow the approach many managers take: not to get too down after a loss and not to get too high after a win, particularly during preseason. |  | | |
| season not looking good on 08:24 - Jul 13 with 2019 views | GaryBannister86 |
| season not looking good on 08:09 - Jul 13 by dmm |
We have this discussion every year. It's remarkable how much one game of football affects our assessment of how a season will pan out.
Last week we won 5-0 and most of us were positive. This week we lost and for many the world has caved in. There's no doubt that each of the next 4 preseason games will have similar effects.
It is a normal human trait to be heavily influenced by what happens in the now moment. However, in football, we should all try to follow the approach many managers take: not to get too down after a loss and not to get too high after a win, particularly during preseason. |
You are dead right. The overreaction to pre-season games, or even just one game, can't be logical.
I am extremely pessimistic about next season, but was before our first pre-season game and didn't shift my opinion because of that easy win, nor likewise because of this defeat.
I am very fearful for next year. I know people are optimistic, but yet again we are going to go in to the season with a woeful collection of strikers (unless we keep Kelman and he fires, possibly decent odds against both), but this year we've no Marti to haul us out of the danger. Of course I hope Stephan is as good, but can't imagine we will make two quality managerial appointments in a row. When's the last time we did that? Howe then Francis?
Two lower league signings don't change my hopes - seen it all before from that division. Blackpool fans thought we were incredibly lucky to get Dembele. I think they may still be right, but even if these guys are good it usually takes time with young players.
The difference on this coming season is that Marti had the goodwill of match-going fans. Support was maintained even through horrific runs. Don't see Stephan getting that luxury, can see it going toxic and everything going pears.
I hope I am wrong. I usually am :-). Tell me why it is going to work out better than this. Need cheering up! [Post edited 13 Jul 8:24]
|  | | |
| season not looking good on 08:50 - Jul 13 with 1888 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
So funny reading these comments, you're having melt downs over a pre season friendly. Maybe support the club rather than writing everyone and thing off.
It's all going to be fine come the game versus PNE. | |
| |
| season not looking good on 08:59 - Jul 13 with 1834 views | Northernr |
| season not looking good on 08:50 - Jul 13 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
So funny reading these comments, you're having melt downs over a pre season friendly. Maybe support the club rather than writing everyone and thing off.
It's all going to be fine come the game versus PNE. |
I think that comment is a bit out of line from a poster who was on here every week last season giving the team an absolute pasting, even when they’d won. That was okay for you then but now anybody who’s concerned should shut up and “support the club”? |  | | |
| |
By continuing to use the site, you agree to our use of cookies and to abide by our Terms and Conditions.
