| Taxi for Marti 21:57 - Aug 13 with 6099 views | stowmarketrange |
Lost on pens at Huddersfield. |  | | |  |
| Taxi for Marti on 22:02 - Aug 13 with 3330 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
Did he play a full team I wonder. |  | | |
| Taxi for Marti on 22:06 - Aug 13 with 3302 views | stowmarketrange |
| Taxi for Marti on 22:02 - Aug 13 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Did he play a full team I wonder. |
7 changes. | | | |
| Taxi for Marti on 22:19 - Aug 13 with 3197 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
I just don’t get it.
Why don’t people value a competition that potentially only needs five wins to get you into Europe and seven to win a trophy. | | | |
| Taxi for Marti on 22:31 - Aug 13 with 3106 views | colinallcars |
| Taxi for Marti on 22:19 - Aug 13 by BazzaInTheLoft |
I just don’t get it.
Why don’t people value a competition that potentially only needs five wins to get you into Europe and seven to win a trophy. |
I might suggest that to Mr Nourry next time we meet.
Not that he'll take any notice with my rough guttural speech, limited vocabulary and crass working class mannerisms and general behaviour patterns. |  | | |
| Taxi for Marti on 22:34 - Aug 13 with 3080 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Taxi for Marti on 22:31 - Aug 13 by colinallcars |
I might suggest that to Mr Nourry next time we meet.
Not that he'll take any notice with my rough guttural speech, limited vocabulary and crass working class mannerisms and general behaviour patterns. |
To be fair to him everyone is doing it. | | | |
| Taxi for Marti on 22:41 - Aug 13 with 3035 views | ChrisNW6 |
| Taxi for Marti on 22:19 - Aug 13 by BazzaInTheLoft |
I just don’t get it.
Why don’t people value a competition that potentially only needs five wins to get you into Europe and seven to win a trophy. |
Because over the last 10 years only Newcastle, Liverpool, Chelsea and both Manchester clubs have won it. Nice to get a cup run and play bigger teams, but this competition is totally geared up for the big clubs now. |  | | |
| Taxi for Marti on 22:41 - Aug 13 with 2952 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Taxi for Marti on 22:34 - Aug 13 by BazzaInTheLoft |
To be fair to him everyone is doing it. |
So why not be original, cultivate some pride, and buck the trend, rather than behave like craven sheep? |  |
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| Taxi for Marti on 22:44 - Aug 13 with 3008 views | stowmarketrange |
| Taxi for Marti on 22:41 - Aug 13 by ChrisNW6 |
Because over the last 10 years only Newcastle, Liverpool, Chelsea and both Manchester clubs have won it. Nice to get a cup run and play bigger teams, but this competition is totally geared up for the big clubs now. |
Is there a European place for the runners up if one of the big clubs win it and qualify via league place? | | | |
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| Taxi for Marti on 22:50 - Aug 13 with 2988 views | ChrisNW6 |
| Taxi for Marti on 22:44 - Aug 13 by stowmarketrange |
Is there a European place for the runners up if one of the big clubs win it and qualify via league place? |
Yeah, if we lose to Man City in the final and they finish in top four, we qualify for Europa League. | | | |
| Taxi for Marti on 22:50 - Aug 13 with 2988 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Taxi for Marti on 22:41 - Aug 13 by ChrisNW6 |
Because over the last 10 years only Newcastle, Liverpool, Chelsea and both Manchester clubs have won it. Nice to get a cup run and play bigger teams, but this competition is totally geared up for the big clubs now. |
Didn’t Birmingham win it 15 years ago or so?
And financially split revenues at Old Trafford or The Emirates is massive.
Makes no sense to me.
Edit: and Swansea even more recently. [Post edited 13 Aug 22:51]
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| Taxi for Marti on 22:55 - Aug 13 with 2946 views | stowmarketrange |
| Taxi for Marti on 22:50 - Aug 13 by ChrisNW6 |
Yeah, if we lose to Man City in the final and they finish in top four, we qualify for Europa League. |
I wasn’t thinking of us,but some mid table premier league club should be tempted to give it a go.People remember cup wins rather than league positions. | | | |
| Taxi for Marti on 22:57 - Aug 13 with 2937 views | ChrisNW6 |
| Taxi for Marti on 22:55 - Aug 13 by stowmarketrange |
I wasn’t thinking of us,but some mid table premier league club should be tempted to give it a go.People remember cup wins rather than league positions. |
Crystal Palace | | | |
| Taxi for Marti on 23:05 - Aug 13 with 2903 views | stowmarketrange |
| Taxi for Marti on 22:57 - Aug 13 by ChrisNW6 |
Crystal Palace |
Exactly.Two trophies in a couple of months while Arsenal were content to bin off the cups to finish 2nd. | | | |
| Taxi for Marti on 23:08 - Aug 13 with 2883 views | Spaghetti_Hoops |
| Taxi for Marti on 22:19 - Aug 13 by BazzaInTheLoft |
I just don’t get it.
Why don’t people value a competition that potentially only needs five wins to get you into Europe and seven to win a trophy. |
It either makes complete sense to concentrate all your efforts on the League or the majority of the Championship are fielding weak sides in the League Cup because of some strange shared affliction.
I’ve always assumed it makes complete sense and all the Championship clubs carefully weigh up all the pros and cons, but maybe not?
Keeping a whole squad motivated with some of them having little or no other opportunity must be part of it, injuries another factor. Recovery time probably another very important factor these days with sports science monitoring every aspect of physical performance. | | | |
| Taxi for Marti on 23:10 - Aug 13 with 2875 views | NW5Hoop |
| Taxi for Marti on 22:41 - Aug 13 by stainrods_elbow |
So why not be original, cultivate some pride, and buck the trend, rather than behave like craven sheep? |
Because it's lose-lose. Every half-decent Premier League team can field 11 reserves who'd beat almost all Championship side. Twenty years ago, when the Premier League was not so much richer, you might still have a shot. Now you might go on a bit of a run, but you're never going to win the bloody thing. You'll just get injuries and then you'll get knocked out.
Even these "upsets" like Palace winning the Cup – it's still a team with several astounding talents. That's the bar now. It's an upset if your best players are only worth £60m. | | | |
| Taxi for Marti on 00:05 - Aug 14 with 2728 views | JamesB1979 |
I think the football league needs to think about changing the competition slightly. Why not have the first round on the Saturday before the season starts ie instead of the last pre season friendly. Or maybe get the championship sides in 1 round later. | | | |
| Taxi for Marti on 00:18 - Aug 14 with 2689 views | JamesB1979 |
| Taxi for Marti on 23:10 - Aug 13 by NW5Hoop |
Because it's lose-lose. Every half-decent Premier League team can field 11 reserves who'd beat almost all Championship side. Twenty years ago, when the Premier League was not so much richer, you might still have a shot. Now you might go on a bit of a run, but you're never going to win the bloody thing. You'll just get injuries and then you'll get knocked out.
Even these "upsets" like Palace winning the Cup – it's still a team with several astounding talents. That's the bar now. It's an upset if your best players are only worth £60m. |
Yeah but they’ve got a chance. I think the issue is the first round. It’s midweek, when our first few league fixtures are at the weekend. With all the injuries that players suffer more and more, I think championship clubs decide not to risk it when players are still building up fitness from pre season. That’s why I thought start it week earlier on a Saturday. Surely they should think of something? It’s not good for fans, the clubs or the completion as it currently stands | | | |
| Taxi for Marti on 04:27 - Aug 14 with 2483 views | ArcticHoop |
Saw on X, that Leicester fans weren´t too happy after 45 min. 0 shots on goal and slow and boring build up. Sounds familiar. | | | |
| Taxi for Marti on 06:16 - Aug 14 with 2351 views | nix |
| Taxi for Marti on 00:18 - Aug 14 by JamesB1979 |
Yeah but they’ve got a chance. I think the issue is the first round. It’s midweek, when our first few league fixtures are at the weekend. With all the injuries that players suffer more and more, I think championship clubs decide not to risk it when players are still building up fitness from pre season. That’s why I thought start it week earlier on a Saturday. Surely they should think of something? It’s not good for fans, the clubs or the completion as it currently stands |
I agree. I honestly think if we hadn't already lost Larkeche, Poku, Varane and Dunne plus our existing injuries we wouldn't have gone quite so extremely youth-orientated. The Poku one could well be down to overplaying when he wasn't quite up to full fitness, for example.We would have had a few of the old guard on the bench at least.
With that in mind and knowing it's a three match week that as Clive regularly reminds us we're terrible at it's not a great combination. Leicester with their much more expensively assembled team played, guess what, a 16 year old and lost in the cup. I'm sure if the match had been played the previous week lots of teams would've fielded better teams knowing they had a full week's recovery. |  | | |
| Taxi for Marti on 07:20 - Aug 14 with 2216 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
As a 'bedwetter', I think it sends completely the wrong message out, particularly as the club was tweeting beforehand about the new badge we can wear on our shirts as previous winners! Also, Stephan comes out of it looking like Nourry's cuck, particularly with that weird interview.
However, if we win at Watford, it's forgotten till the next time. If we get beaten, it looks dumber than ever though... | | | |
| Taxi for Marti on 08:45 - Aug 14 with 1907 views | slmrstid |
| Taxi for Marti on 00:05 - Aug 14 by JamesB1979 |
I think the football league needs to think about changing the competition slightly. Why not have the first round on the Saturday before the season starts ie instead of the last pre season friendly. Or maybe get the championship sides in 1 round later. |
In a dream world the EFL would bin off the silly Trophy with its Premier League U21 sides, bin off the Premier League clubs from the League Cup, and have it as a competition for the 72 league sides only with the final still at Wembley and hey, why not a European place on offer too...
Oh, can anyone see the altitude of that pig...? |  | | |
| Taxi for Marti on 08:47 - Aug 14 with 1883 views | Watford_Ranger |
If he’s not got them with a realistic chance of automatic promotion at Christmas he’s probably in trouble and knows that. Going out in the first or fourth round of this makes a negligible difference to his prospects. Saying that, while he made changes, that’s a lot of experience to lose to Hudds reserves. | | | |
| Taxi for Marti on 09:00 - Aug 14 with 1794 views | CamberleyR |
| Taxi for Marti on 22:50 - Aug 13 by ChrisNW6 |
Yeah, if we lose to Man City in the final and they finish in top four, we qualify for Europa League. |
I don't think that's the case. The European place would go to the next team not in Europe in the Premier League table. The League Cup winners also go into the Conference League and not the Europa League like the FA Cup winners.
It's similar to how we got into Europe after the 1983-84 season by finishing 5th which normally wouldn't have qualified us (only 2nd 3rd and 4th in the league) but did in our case. Liverpool won the league and the league cup so their European place for winning the league cup went to us in 5th. |  |
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| Taxi for Marti on 09:39 - Aug 14 with 1619 views | stantheman10 |
| Taxi for Marti on 23:05 - Aug 13 by stowmarketrange |
Exactly.Two trophies in a couple of months while Arsenal were content to bin off the cups to finish 2nd. |
There's a lot more money playing in the Champions League than there is in winning the league cup! | | | |
| Taxi for Marti on 09:41 - Aug 14 with 1604 views | Watford_Ranger |
| Taxi for Marti on 09:00 - Aug 14 by CamberleyR |
I don't think that's the case. The European place would go to the next team not in Europe in the Premier League table. The League Cup winners also go into the Conference League and not the Europa League like the FA Cup winners.
It's similar to how we got into Europe after the 1983-84 season by finishing 5th which normally wouldn't have qualified us (only 2nd 3rd and 4th in the league) but did in our case. Liverpool won the league and the league cup so their European place for winning the league cup went to us in 5th. |
Correct. The League Cup runners-up have never got European football as far as I know. Nowadays the FA Cup runners-up don’t either which is poor given half the league gets into Europe anyway but think that’s a UEFA thing some suit has decided on to justify his job.
It wouldn’t happen because of some co-efficient-based nonsense and the strength of the Premier League as an organisation but with 1/4 of the league qualifying for the ‘Champions’ League it would breathe some life back into the FA Cup if that fifth spot went to the winners should they not be a top four team. | | | |
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