| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 22:19 - Sep 17 with 3385 views | raynor94 |
| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 22:14 - Sep 17 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I remember watching a 22 years old Adebayor for Arsenal. He was Bambi on ice in his first season..He was getting ruthless criticism. Within 18 months he was a gowls scoring monster.
Piroe struggled 19-21 but kicked on at 22 at Swansea. Then there was useless Victor. ( "Never did anything for us") " How could we gave guessed he would turn out so well". Some do some do not.
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"never did anything for us" exactly what you said |  |
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| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 22:45 - Sep 17 with 3243 views | builthjack |
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| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 23:00 - Sep 17 with 3166 views | onehunglow |
| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 22:19 - Sep 17 by raynor94 |
"never did anything for us" exactly what you said |
He is what he is as of now
One hot property |  |
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| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 23:03 - Sep 17 with 3157 views | sons_of_omri |
| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 22:45 - Sep 17 by builthjack |
5/5 |
Does Joe Allon hold the record for goals in consecutive games - 7 in 7? He’ll be getting that at this rate. Great finish , superb technique. | | | |
| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 23:18 - Sep 17 with 3086 views | max936 |
| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 23:03 - Sep 17 by sons_of_omri |
Does Joe Allon hold the record for goals in consecutive games - 7 in 7? He’ll be getting that at this rate. Great finish , superb technique. |
Vipotnik has the attributes that I accused him or not having last season, epitomised by his goal tonight, endeavour, anticipation and instinct.
His finish tonight was class. [Post edited 17 Sep 23:18]
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| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 23:42 - Sep 17 with 3034 views | Fireboy2 |
| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 23:18 - Sep 17 by max936 |
Vipotnik has the attributes that I accused him or not having last season, epitomised by his goal tonight, endeavour, anticipation and instinct.
His finish tonight was class. [Post edited 17 Sep 23:18]
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I reciprocate that S 👌 |  | | |
| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 23:56 - Sep 17 with 3015 views | RichardO |
Surprising what can happen when you get the ball into feet in the box quickly from central areas of the pitch, a welcome alternative to crosses into well set up defenses.
Hoping today's win cements the fact we can have an attacking threat if we need or have to. | | | |
| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 23:58 - Sep 17 with 3012 views | Fireboy2 |
| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 23:56 - Sep 17 by RichardO |
Surprising what can happen when you get the ball into feet in the box quickly from central areas of the pitch, a welcome alternative to crosses into well set up defenses.
Hoping today's win cements the fact we can have an attacking threat if we need or have to. |
And a striker who is finally playing like a striker 👏
And long may it continue. | | | |
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| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 00:14 - Sep 18 with 2989 views | RichardO |
A few negatives that have been highlighted before but a couple of additional positives, Yalcouye is a player who can get us up through the middle of the park, Galbraith is excellent , Benson looks a handful, Widell getting accustomed to higher level football?
One off game but a number of promising performances, a little disappointed Parker not even on the subs bench but I suppose having a look at the new boy on the left, who did quite well, meant a little bit of continuity was needed at the back.
Casey looks as if he has a good future in front of him.
Sheehan has things/ players he can work with this season. [Post edited 18 Sep 0:16]
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| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 00:41 - Sep 18 with 2956 views | JJJack |
| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 23:18 - Sep 17 by max936 |
Vipotnik has the attributes that I accused him or not having last season, epitomised by his goal tonight, endeavour, anticipation and instinct.
His finish tonight was class. [Post edited 17 Sep 23:18]
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You accused him for the same reasons many of us did: he just didn't show ,much of this last season. Suddenly he looks a yard sharper in thought and deed and is starting to look more McBurnie than Yates in and around the final 3rd. Most imp[roved player this season so far by a distance. |  | | |
| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 01:31 - Sep 18 with 2904 views | dobjack2 |
| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 00:41 - Sep 18 by JJJack |
You accused him for the same reasons many of us did: he just didn't show ,much of this last season. Suddenly he looks a yard sharper in thought and deed and is starting to look more McBurnie than Yates in and around the final 3rd. Most imp[roved player this season so far by a distance. |
I thought that up until the Watford game he looked like a league 1 striker at best and posted that because I felt that was how he played.
Notwithstanding what was being created he seemed a second or so too slow to see or react to what was going on around him and as a consequence half a yard behind where he needed to be. I know that players, especially from abroad, can take time to adapt to the intensity of the championship but he looked like a fish out of water.
Seems to have a different mentality now which I believe is the difference. Whether he was unhappy with the way Williams wanted him and the team to play and has now had a reality check (kick up the rear) from Sheehan or whatever he appears far more switched on.
Glad to see it as I don't want any of our players to fail or struggle. | | | |
| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 01:44 - Sep 18 with 2884 views | JJJack |
| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 01:31 - Sep 18 by dobjack2 |
I thought that up until the Watford game he looked like a league 1 striker at best and posted that because I felt that was how he played.
Notwithstanding what was being created he seemed a second or so too slow to see or react to what was going on around him and as a consequence half a yard behind where he needed to be. I know that players, especially from abroad, can take time to adapt to the intensity of the championship but he looked like a fish out of water.
Seems to have a different mentality now which I believe is the difference. Whether he was unhappy with the way Williams wanted him and the team to play and has now had a reality check (kick up the rear) from Sheehan or whatever he appears far more switched on.
Glad to see it as I don't want any of our players to fail or struggle. |
Agreed. No idea whether his attitude is different but his sharpness has dramatically increased and confidence is a wonderful thing. But his confidence is improved because he himself is just simply playing far better.......he'll be keeping his starting place for the forseeable unless Sheehan has a brain fart. | | | |
| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 02:57 - Sep 18 with 2823 views | sons_of_omri |
| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 00:41 - Sep 18 by JJJack |
You accused him for the same reasons many of us did: he just didn't show ,much of this last season. Suddenly he looks a yard sharper in thought and deed and is starting to look more McBurnie than Yates in and around the final 3rd. Most imp[roved player this season so far by a distance. |
OR, maybe the much higher calibre midfield players around him are finally on HIS wavelength and are picking out his runs ?
I get genuinely annoyed when some people fail to realise this and trot out the line “oh the lazy git had his arse kicked by Sheehan etc etc”.
If his aptitude and attitude were THAT bad he most certainly would not be as popular with his team mates as is evidenced every time he scores. Every single one of them comes over genuinely pleased for him which would not be the case if he was a surly misfit of a player having a tantrum. Perhaps they felt he wasn’t having a fair crack of the whip?
Let’s not completely let Sheehan off the hook here - Vipotnik looked good in Spain and took his goal against Stevenage very well. If I was him I’d have been livid that Cullen, who with all due respect isnt a natural 9 ) was ahead of him in the pecking order at Middlesbrough.
5 in 5 days that was the wrong decision. Though some on here seem (strangely) to disagree. | | | |
| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 08:59 - Sep 18 with 2607 views | jack247 |
| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 02:57 - Sep 18 by sons_of_omri |
OR, maybe the much higher calibre midfield players around him are finally on HIS wavelength and are picking out his runs ?
I get genuinely annoyed when some people fail to realise this and trot out the line “oh the lazy git had his arse kicked by Sheehan etc etc”.
If his aptitude and attitude were THAT bad he most certainly would not be as popular with his team mates as is evidenced every time he scores. Every single one of them comes over genuinely pleased for him which would not be the case if he was a surly misfit of a player having a tantrum. Perhaps they felt he wasn’t having a fair crack of the whip?
Let’s not completely let Sheehan off the hook here - Vipotnik looked good in Spain and took his goal against Stevenage very well. If I was him I’d have been livid that Cullen, who with all due respect isnt a natural 9 ) was ahead of him in the pecking order at Middlesbrough.
5 in 5 days that was the wrong decision. Though some on here seem (strangely) to disagree. |
Half agree with this. There’s no doubt any striker would do better in the team we have now than last seasons.
At the same time, I’m also certain the Vipotnik we’ve seen for the last month would have done ok in a Luke Williams team. Nipping in first to get on Cullens cross was the main thing plenty of us criticised him for not doing last season. Awareness and anticipation. Suddenly he’s one of the sharpest players on the pitch.
I’m not going to speculate on attitude or arguments or whatever. I can only judge on what I see on the pitch and to be honest I don’t care what’s sparked the improvement I’m just happy he’s playing like he is.
My only concern now, is Idah played exactly like Vipotnik did last season for an hour. I thought he was ok Saturday, but he just didn’t get into it last night. Obviously very early days though. | | | |
| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 09:32 - Sep 18 with 2550 views | KeithHaynes |
| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 02:57 - Sep 18 by sons_of_omri |
OR, maybe the much higher calibre midfield players around him are finally on HIS wavelength and are picking out his runs ?
I get genuinely annoyed when some people fail to realise this and trot out the line “oh the lazy git had his arse kicked by Sheehan etc etc”.
If his aptitude and attitude were THAT bad he most certainly would not be as popular with his team mates as is evidenced every time he scores. Every single one of them comes over genuinely pleased for him which would not be the case if he was a surly misfit of a player having a tantrum. Perhaps they felt he wasn’t having a fair crack of the whip?
Let’s not completely let Sheehan off the hook here - Vipotnik looked good in Spain and took his goal against Stevenage very well. If I was him I’d have been livid that Cullen, who with all due respect isnt a natural 9 ) was ahead of him in the pecking order at Middlesbrough.
5 in 5 days that was the wrong decision. Though some on here seem (strangely) to disagree. |
I’m unsure if there was any arse kicking going on. But rest assured there was a discussion which resulted in some valuable thinking time for Vipotnik after Sheehan made his ‘Cullen has got the shirt’ comment. Then of course the club were openly linked with getting a new striker.
Clearly this disorientated Vipotnik, and maybe now in hindsight that was a clever comment by Sheehan ?
Either way he is playing the best football of his career and doing it in a Swansea shirt. He sounded delighted when interviewed post match. |  |
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| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 11:13 - Sep 18 with 2395 views | Fireboy2 |
| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 09:32 - Sep 18 by KeithHaynes |
I’m unsure if there was any arse kicking going on. But rest assured there was a discussion which resulted in some valuable thinking time for Vipotnik after Sheehan made his ‘Cullen has got the shirt’ comment. Then of course the club were openly linked with getting a new striker.
Clearly this disorientated Vipotnik, and maybe now in hindsight that was a clever comment by Sheehan ?
Either way he is playing the best football of his career and doing it in a Swansea shirt. He sounded delighted when interviewed post match. |
Amen brother 🙏 | | | |
| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 12:16 - Sep 18 with 2279 views | RichardO |
| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 02:57 - Sep 18 by sons_of_omri |
OR, maybe the much higher calibre midfield players around him are finally on HIS wavelength and are picking out his runs ?
I get genuinely annoyed when some people fail to realise this and trot out the line “oh the lazy git had his arse kicked by Sheehan etc etc”.
If his aptitude and attitude were THAT bad he most certainly would not be as popular with his team mates as is evidenced every time he scores. Every single one of them comes over genuinely pleased for him which would not be the case if he was a surly misfit of a player having a tantrum. Perhaps they felt he wasn’t having a fair crack of the whip?
Let’s not completely let Sheehan off the hook here - Vipotnik looked good in Spain and took his goal against Stevenage very well. If I was him I’d have been livid that Cullen, who with all due respect isnt a natural 9 ) was ahead of him in the pecking order at Middlesbrough.
5 in 5 days that was the wrong decision. Though some on here seem (strangely) to disagree. |
Higher calibre of the midfield around him?, Eom and Cullen opened the defence up not the newer players, Widell looked sharper yesterday, Difference between Saturday and Wednesday was one game we were trying to defend a lead the other chasing the lead, the substitutions worked yesterday and didn't on Saturday because most of the substitutions were attackers.
We opened up Hull well enough we just didn't defend well at the end some could say the same for Forest.
Great win, might be the game to turn a season as long as we have a team who can complete in every area of the game defence, midfield and attack. Fingers crossed. [Post edited 18 Sep 12:30]
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| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 12:41 - Sep 18 with 2216 views | onehunglow |
| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 12:16 - Sep 18 by RichardO |
Higher calibre of the midfield around him?, Eom and Cullen opened the defence up not the newer players, Widell looked sharper yesterday, Difference between Saturday and Wednesday was one game we were trying to defend a lead the other chasing the lead, the substitutions worked yesterday and didn't on Saturday because most of the substitutions were attackers.
We opened up Hull well enough we just didn't defend well at the end some could say the same for Forest.
Great win, might be the game to turn a season as long as we have a team who can complete in every area of the game defence, midfield and attack. Fingers crossed. [Post edited 18 Sep 12:30]
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We simply have to kick on now it might be the spark to get folk back
Crowd last night erupted and sounded wonderful
We gave some serious depth , captaincy, a strong spine and goalscorers
I’m assuming Sheehan learned from Hull and won’t repeat mistake again
Our biggest challenge will be hanging onto Galbraith and VIP
People have noticed them now as we were Skys main game
Only the glory hunting LFC jerks would have missed that
Finally Sky have far greater respect for us than Welsh media | |
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| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 12:41 - Sep 18 with 2221 views | RichardO |
| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 02:57 - Sep 18 by sons_of_omri |
OR, maybe the much higher calibre midfield players around him are finally on HIS wavelength and are picking out his runs ?
I get genuinely annoyed when some people fail to realise this and trot out the line “oh the lazy git had his arse kicked by Sheehan etc etc”.
If his aptitude and attitude were THAT bad he most certainly would not be as popular with his team mates as is evidenced every time he scores. Every single one of them comes over genuinely pleased for him which would not be the case if he was a surly misfit of a player having a tantrum. Perhaps they felt he wasn’t having a fair crack of the whip?
Let’s not completely let Sheehan off the hook here - Vipotnik looked good in Spain and took his goal against Stevenage very well. If I was him I’d have been livid that Cullen, who with all due respect isnt a natural 9 ) was ahead of him in the pecking order at Middlesbrough.
5 in 5 days that was the wrong decision. Though some on here seem (strangely) to disagree. |
You could say having midfield players higher up in the midfield offer more options to player on the ball while holding opposition players in positions where they have to make decisions, do they stay, drop back or push up to mark, either way spaces opened up. Take a win all day long but still things that need looking at.
Fullbacks keeping goalside of wingers and not allowing wingers having the ball to feet but that needs cover and stopping opposition midfielder gaining space through the middle, if you are going to press to get their fullbacks isolated on the flanks you don't give them the easy out of balls the wingers feet who can turn and run at our fullbacks, I thought Samuel-Smith did well initially. | | | |
| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 14:58 - Sep 18 with 2086 views | KeithHaynes |
| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 12:41 - Sep 18 by onehunglow |
We simply have to kick on now it might be the spark to get folk back
Crowd last night erupted and sounded wonderful
We gave some serious depth , captaincy, a strong spine and goalscorers
I’m assuming Sheehan learned from Hull and won’t repeat mistake again
Our biggest challenge will be hanging onto Galbraith and VIP
People have noticed them now as we were Skys main game
Only the glory hunting LFC jerks would have missed that
Finally Sky have far greater respect for us than Welsh media |
Play good football and the world listens, do the same with a bias against you, and there’s always a bias against you. | |
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| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 21:29 - Sep 18 with 1828 views | sons_of_omri |
| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 12:16 - Sep 18 by RichardO |
Higher calibre of the midfield around him?, Eom and Cullen opened the defence up not the newer players, Widell looked sharper yesterday, Difference between Saturday and Wednesday was one game we were trying to defend a lead the other chasing the lead, the substitutions worked yesterday and didn't on Saturday because most of the substitutions were attackers.
We opened up Hull well enough we just didn't defend well at the end some could say the same for Forest.
Great win, might be the game to turn a season as long as we have a team who can complete in every area of the game defence, midfield and attack. Fingers crossed. [Post edited 18 Sep 12:30]
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You know full well that Inoussa and Galbraith ( plus Yalcouye)have been heavily involved in Vipotniks resurgence. Eom and Cullen might only ever get on the pitch during cup games - not taking anything away from that assist. The commentators were more impressed with the finish though so maybe they’re not as one eyed as some of his critics on here.
The way I see it - the people on here calling him a league one player have been made to look ridiculous and as a way of justifying themselves it’s “oh, well he wouldn’t be in this form if Sheehan hadn’t told him Cullen was his main striker”. Give it up people - you were wrong. You should be big enough to admit it. Same thing for Grimes - most of the fan base now see just how ineffective he really was due to better players replacing him. Apart from that fruitcake Loyola of course | | | |
| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 21:45 - Sep 18 with 1796 views | KeithHaynes |
| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 21:29 - Sep 18 by sons_of_omri |
You know full well that Inoussa and Galbraith ( plus Yalcouye)have been heavily involved in Vipotniks resurgence. Eom and Cullen might only ever get on the pitch during cup games - not taking anything away from that assist. The commentators were more impressed with the finish though so maybe they’re not as one eyed as some of his critics on here.
The way I see it - the people on here calling him a league one player have been made to look ridiculous and as a way of justifying themselves it’s “oh, well he wouldn’t be in this form if Sheehan hadn’t told him Cullen was his main striker”. Give it up people - you were wrong. You should be big enough to admit it. Same thing for Grimes - most of the fan base now see just how ineffective he really was due to better players replacing him. Apart from that fruitcake Loyola of course |
So Vipotnik has been kidding us along for a year ? Bloody hope not. That would make folk angry. | |
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| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 21:50 - Sep 18 with 1796 views | sons_of_omri |
| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 12:41 - Sep 18 by RichardO |
You could say having midfield players higher up in the midfield offer more options to player on the ball while holding opposition players in positions where they have to make decisions, do they stay, drop back or push up to mark, either way spaces opened up. Take a win all day long but still things that need looking at.
Fullbacks keeping goalside of wingers and not allowing wingers having the ball to feet but that needs cover and stopping opposition midfielder gaining space through the middle, if you are going to press to get their fullbacks isolated on the flanks you don't give them the easy out of balls the wingers feet who can turn and run at our fullbacks, I thought Samuel-Smith did well initially. |
Agreed. Someone just said that if Vipotnik was playing as he is now under Williams he would score goals in that team. With Go backwards Grimes and Fulton - not to mention how our wingers tiptoed around the box because the slow build up play left them with no space to beat a man and cross.
Or maybe they’re yanking my chain - for a laugh . Surely ?
PS I thought all the new players battled hard last night and the win was a cumulative team effort in the truest sense. | | | |
| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 22:04 - Sep 18 with 1756 views | KeithHaynes |
| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 21:50 - Sep 18 by sons_of_omri |
Agreed. Someone just said that if Vipotnik was playing as he is now under Williams he would score goals in that team. With Go backwards Grimes and Fulton - not to mention how our wingers tiptoed around the box because the slow build up play left them with no space to beat a man and cross.
Or maybe they’re yanking my chain - for a laugh . Surely ?
PS I thought all the new players battled hard last night and the win was a cumulative team effort in the truest sense. |
That’s fully agreed, last season you are perfectly correct on Vipotnik’s service problem.
But I will add we have very good sources and support regards Vipotnik. This report was from March last season, there’s always a few clues about, and let’s be honest he wasn’t that rated back then by the vast majority. He is in the form of his life right now, hopefully that continues or Idah chips in on his workload.
We were magnificent last night, continue in that vein and someone is in for a proper hiding.
https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/swanseacity/news/64032/no-interest-in-vip
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| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 10:36 - Sep 19 with 1422 views | jack247 |
| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 21:50 - Sep 18 by sons_of_omri |
Agreed. Someone just said that if Vipotnik was playing as he is now under Williams he would score goals in that team. With Go backwards Grimes and Fulton - not to mention how our wingers tiptoed around the box because the slow build up play left them with no space to beat a man and cross.
Or maybe they’re yanking my chain - for a laugh . Surely ?
PS I thought all the new players battled hard last night and the win was a cumulative team effort in the truest sense. |
This Vipotnik would have scored in a Luke Williams team without a doubt. Just like Joel Piroe scored goals with Matt Grimes, Jay Fulton, a more extreme version of Luke Williams running the team and Joel Latibaudiere providing the width.
The goal on Wednesday was the perfect example of what he was being criticised for not doing last season. Well timed near post run after losing his marker. Most people understand that strikers have to play their part in having chances created for them. Now he’s doing it.
Of course having Innousa, Galbraith etc is going to help him score more goals, but don’t kid yourself that the biggest change isn’t Vipotnik himself. He should be applauded for that, not portrayed as the same player as last season in a better team. | | | |
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