| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 11:50 - Sep 19 with 2298 views | union_jack |
| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 10:36 - Sep 19 by jack247 |
This Vipotnik would have scored in a Luke Williams team without a doubt. Just like Joel Piroe scored goals with Matt Grimes, Jay Fulton, a more extreme version of Luke Williams running the team and Joel Latibaudiere providing the width.
The goal on Wednesday was the perfect example of what he was being criticised for not doing last season. Well timed near post run after losing his marker. Most people understand that strikers have to play their part in having chances created for them. Now he’s doing it.
Of course having Innousa, Galbraith etc is going to help him score more goals, but don’t kid yourself that the biggest change isn’t Vipotnik himself. He should be applauded for that, not portrayed as the same player as last season in a better team. |
Absolutely right about strikers need chances made for them and that’s why I think Idah didn’t perform as well as he could because as far as I can remember, those chances weren’t there for him. |  |
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| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 12:39 - Sep 19 with 2170 views | jack247 |
| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 11:50 - Sep 19 by union_jack |
Absolutely right about strikers need chances made for them and that’s why I think Idah didn’t perform as well as he could because as far as I can remember, those chances weren’t there for him. |
They do of course, but I think you have misread me slightly there.
Strikers have to play their own part in chances being created. Making runs, losing markers, being alert and not behind play etc… Chances don’t just get put on a plate.
I criticised Vipotnik for this a lot last season and now he’s doing it all. He deserves massive credit for it. |  | | |
| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 12:53 - Sep 19 with 2134 views | union_jack |
| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 12:39 - Sep 19 by jack247 |
They do of course, but I think you have misread me slightly there.
Strikers have to play their own part in chances being created. Making runs, losing markers, being alert and not behind play etc… Chances don’t just get put on a plate.
I criticised Vipotnik for this a lot last season and now he’s doing it all. He deserves massive credit for it. |
Yes, I understand that but the supply for Idah wasn’t there. We didn’t get the ball to him enough as far as I recall for him to be able to manufacture his own chances. We got forward more when VIP came on because we had nothing to lose and everything to gain. | |
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| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 13:01 - Sep 19 with 2118 views | jack247 |
| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 12:53 - Sep 19 by union_jack |
Yes, I understand that but the supply for Idah wasn’t there. We didn’t get the ball to him enough as far as I recall for him to be able to manufacture his own chances. We got forward more when VIP came on because we had nothing to lose and everything to gain. |
To an extent, but strikers can still impose themselves on the game. Against Hull, he dropped deep and drifted out wide to link play.
He could have done that against Forest. It may not have got him shooting chances, but he’d have at least contributed to building attacks.
It’s not acceptable to just drift around barely getting involved when we’re not in top of teams and chances aren’t coming thick and fast.
It was his first start for us and against a very good team, so I’m all for giving him a bit of leeway, but I’m not going to pretend that was a decent performance. | | | |
| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 13:15 - Sep 19 with 2084 views | union_jack |
| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 13:01 - Sep 19 by jack247 |
To an extent, but strikers can still impose themselves on the game. Against Hull, he dropped deep and drifted out wide to link play.
He could have done that against Forest. It may not have got him shooting chances, but he’d have at least contributed to building attacks.
It’s not acceptable to just drift around barely getting involved when we’re not in top of teams and chances aren’t coming thick and fast.
It was his first start for us and against a very good team, so I’m all for giving him a bit of leeway, but I’m not going to pretend that was a decent performance. |
I did ask myself some way into the first half whether he was on the pitch. I hadn’t heard his name mentioned. | |
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| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 13:25 - Sep 19 with 2071 views | RichardO |
| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 21:29 - Sep 18 by sons_of_omri |
You know full well that Inoussa and Galbraith ( plus Yalcouye)have been heavily involved in Vipotniks resurgence. Eom and Cullen might only ever get on the pitch during cup games - not taking anything away from that assist. The commentators were more impressed with the finish though so maybe they’re not as one eyed as some of his critics on here.
The way I see it - the people on here calling him a league one player have been made to look ridiculous and as a way of justifying themselves it’s “oh, well he wouldn’t be in this form if Sheehan hadn’t told him Cullen was his main striker”. Give it up people - you were wrong. You should be big enough to admit it. Same thing for Grimes - most of the fan base now see just how ineffective he really was due to better players replacing him. Apart from that fruitcake Loyola of course |
Edit see post further down as I hadn't finished composing this one was posted incomplete. [Post edited 19 Sep 14:05]
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| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 13:26 - Sep 19 with 2065 views | jack247 |
| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 13:15 - Sep 19 by union_jack |
I did ask myself some way into the first half whether he was on the pitch. I hadn’t heard his name mentioned. |
I agree with your previous point. We did well in the first half against Forest but they were on top. He was maybe unlucky against Hull in that we took Yalcouye and Innousa off and they were throwing the kitchen sink at us.
So although I think he could have done a lot more, particularly against Forest, we haven’t yet seen him when we’re controlling a game. It will happen soon enough and maybe he comes into his own then. | | | |
| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 13:42 - Sep 19 with 2029 views | JJBomber |
I think we can safely change the headline now! | | | |
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| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 13:49 - Sep 19 with 2016 views | Whiterockin |
| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 13:42 - Sep 19 by JJBomber |
I think we can safely change the headline now! |
If his form continues it will be leaving in January. This is the problem with being successful clubs will want our players/staff. There will be approaches in January which will severely test the clubs ambition. It has previously been said that every player we have has a price. I just hope our club is ambitious enough to raise the threshold way beyond a casual enquiry. |  | | |
| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 13:59 - Sep 19 with 1978 views | RichardO |
| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 21:29 - Sep 18 by sons_of_omri |
You know full well that Inoussa and Galbraith ( plus Yalcouye)have been heavily involved in Vipotniks resurgence. Eom and Cullen might only ever get on the pitch during cup games - not taking anything away from that assist. The commentators were more impressed with the finish though so maybe they’re not as one eyed as some of his critics on here.
The way I see it - the people on here calling him a league one player have been made to look ridiculous and as a way of justifying themselves it’s “oh, well he wouldn’t be in this form if Sheehan hadn’t told him Cullen was his main striker”. Give it up people - you were wrong. You should be big enough to admit it. Same thing for Grimes - most of the fan base now see just how ineffective he really was due to better players replacing him. Apart from that fruitcake Loyola of course |
During the substitutions I was hoping Inoussa was coming on not Cullen so what do I know. The similarities the Hull and Forest games in attack we could open them up but in trying to do so we left ourselves open to attack, nobody can dispute Forest had a number of chances to put the game to bed. We know we can open teams up but we also know teams can open us up because at times we over commit, the attacking substitutions were wrong against Hull who were chasing the game and right against Forest because we were chasing the game, our issues has always been how we set up to be defensively strong, we have been ripped apart when we get the high press wrong, better to make sure we get I to a better defensive shape before committing to a press that leaves wingers and midfielders able to turn and run at players, the whole idea of using the goalie is to encourage the forwards and midfield on so you can outnumber the opposition in other area high up the pitch, we notice when we come out in the second half after particularly bad first halves and close down players better keeping things tighter we can move into more attacking areas of the pitch quicker causing opposition players to make mistakes.
Key should be tighter to wingers stopping them having ball to feet, he shouldn't be worried about wingers running past him onto long balls as he has the pace to match any winger. Tymom has to be a little more careful but both Ronald and Parker has shown if you get your body in-between the opposition winger you make it a lot harder for the winger and you don't have them running at you providing you then don't take too many touches and give the ball away. As for tall wingers winning aerial battles they shouldn't if as a fullback you stay a yard back off them as the high ball comes across yo have a full view of what is in front of you to get a run and jump to gain the height advantage.
Having the fullback starting deep also means we can have 5 players across the middle of the park occupying the spaces to progress up the pitch meaning you can full commit players to the often scrappy middle of the k battles, I think we have a number of quality players who can play us out of those scraps to keep us further up the pitch.
So for the Birmingham game not so worried about which players are picked but how we are asked to play. Some times if the wingers need marking the opposition pushes a midfielder in-between the full back and centreforward to cause them marking issues, we either have to drop a midfielder back to mark or stop the supply of clean ball to them cutting them out of the game.
I think the midfield would be stronger with Stamenic but that is only on a small amount of game time evidence. As it is there are quality players on the pitch it is how we use them. | | | |
| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 15:35 - Sep 19 with 1834 views | KeithHaynes |
| Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 13:42 - Sep 19 by JJBomber |
I think we can safely change the headline now! |
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It was a journey.
Things they said on route were often remembered later.
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