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Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 17:08 - Sep 16 with 1902 viewsKeithHaynes

Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 00:31 - Sep 2 by Fireboy2

Great reply D, he only started playing well after the incident in training before the Watford game.

Hes been nowhere near like that before that incident.


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Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 17:17 - Sep 16 with 1872 viewsFireboy2

Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 17:05 - Sep 16 by KeithHaynes

I’m glad he didn’t go of course, but news now and next week changes. He always had something and many will agree he does. It’s just that for some reason it’s taken a whole year for him to see and feel his worth.


Or he was just living life easy as he always had a place in the squad.

It was only when a threat of a transfer gave him a kick up the @rse he has put more effort in.
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Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 17:41 - Sep 16 with 1786 viewsDr_Winston

*Sigh*

Are we still doing this?

Vipotnik did about as well as he could under Williams. None of our attacking players stood out under that dipstick, yet apparently he is the only one for whom it was his all own fault. It's Perchy level scapegoating, and the people doing it should know better than that.

I don't claim to get everything right about football, but I'm rarely wrong about a player. I saw enough in Vipotnik last year to suggest he was capable of 10-15 goals a season given decent support and the backing of his manager, and said so plenty of times. Sorry, but the idea that he'd never played well for us at all until the Watford game is pure fiction.

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Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 18:15 - Sep 16 with 1698 viewsFireboy2

Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 17:41 - Sep 16 by Dr_Winston

*Sigh*

Are we still doing this?

Vipotnik did about as well as he could under Williams. None of our attacking players stood out under that dipstick, yet apparently he is the only one for whom it was his all own fault. It's Perchy level scapegoating, and the people doing it should know better than that.

I don't claim to get everything right about football, but I'm rarely wrong about a player. I saw enough in Vipotnik last year to suggest he was capable of 10-15 goals a season given decent support and the backing of his manager, and said so plenty of times. Sorry, but the idea that he'd never played well for us at all until the Watford game is pure fiction.


Yes we obviously are still doing this.

What about his few months with sheehan at the end of last season and the start of this until the Watford game? He was exactly the same as he was under williams.

You are totally correct in saying that hes capable of scoring 10/15 goals a season, perhaps more.

Whatever happened at that session its given vip the kick up the @rse hes needed, I hope and pray that he keeps this form up
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Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 19:07 - Sep 16 with 1630 viewsWhiterockin

Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 18:15 - Sep 16 by Fireboy2

Yes we obviously are still doing this.

What about his few months with sheehan at the end of last season and the start of this until the Watford game? He was exactly the same as he was under williams.

You are totally correct in saying that hes capable of scoring 10/15 goals a season, perhaps more.

Whatever happened at that session its given vip the kick up the @rse hes needed, I hope and pray that he keeps this form up


Look back to when Sheehan looked up to the directors box when Vipotnik scored that goal without any emotion only the look. There was an awful lot going on with Vipotnik in the background, IMO that's what changed things.
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Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 19:10 - Sep 16 with 1624 viewsFireboy2

Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 19:07 - Sep 16 by Whiterockin

Look back to when Sheehan looked up to the directors box when Vipotnik scored that goal without any emotion only the look. There was an awful lot going on with Vipotnik in the background, IMO that's what changed things.


Exactly.

Yet some believe hes always been good.
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Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 19:15 - Sep 16 with 1614 viewsWhiterockin

Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 19:10 - Sep 16 by Fireboy2

Exactly.

Yet some believe hes always been good.


As Keith has said Piroe or Obafemi moment.
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Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 19:27 - Sep 16 with 1583 viewsFireboy2

Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 19:15 - Sep 16 by Whiterockin

As Keith has said Piroe or Obafemi moment.


Piroe atm.
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Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 21:10 - Sep 16 with 1480 viewsDr_Winston

Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 19:10 - Sep 16 by Fireboy2

Exactly.

Yet some believe hes always been good.


Some believe that he was never given a serious opportunity to display what he can do. Nobody is sitting here claiming that he's always played well.

Unfortunately people are sitting here and claiming that he had never played well until a couple of weeks ago, which is plainly not true.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 21:19 - Sep 16 with 1458 viewsswansjack84

Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 19:07 - Sep 16 by Whiterockin

Look back to when Sheehan looked up to the directors box when Vipotnik scored that goal without any emotion only the look. There was an awful lot going on with Vipotnik in the background, IMO that's what changed things.


Sheehan called out Vipotnik in his conference by stating it was Cullens shirt to take. Why that needed Vipotnik to suddenly stand up who knows. I for one have been a supporter of him until recently. It seemed he was gone. Who knows the reason for Sheehan reaction. For me it's not being talked about how Sheehan has been able to man manage him and Ronald and improve them.
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Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 21:31 - Sep 16 with 1432 viewsFireboy2

Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 21:10 - Sep 16 by Dr_Winston

Some believe that he was never given a serious opportunity to display what he can do. Nobody is sitting here claiming that he's always played well.

Unfortunately people are sitting here and claiming that he had never played well until a couple of weeks ago, which is plainly not true.


We have been through this doc, he had loads of minutes last season, its in black and white, just look for yourself at the games and minutes he played, still with all those minutes on the pitch he never set the world on fire, he didnt change his way of playing when sheehan took over from williams and he didn't change when this season started, I remember watching when he came on at boro he hardly moved out of the centre of the pitch, he played exactly how he played last season.

He was a totally different proposition when he came on against Watford, it was clear to see the difference in him.

Ateotd opinions are like @rseholes, everyone has one, the trouble is yours is wrong even though you think that you know players 😉
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Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 21:37 - Sep 16 with 1419 viewsonehunglow

Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 21:19 - Sep 16 by swansjack84

Sheehan called out Vipotnik in his conference by stating it was Cullens shirt to take. Why that needed Vipotnik to suddenly stand up who knows. I for one have been a supporter of him until recently. It seemed he was gone. Who knows the reason for Sheehan reaction. For me it's not being talked about how Sheehan has been able to man manage him and Ronald and improve them.
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Cullen shouldn’t be wearing the shirt unless it’s to go to the pub .
He has had far greater leeway than VIP and has not improved at all

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Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 21:39 - Sep 16 with 1419 viewsDr_Winston

Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 21:19 - Sep 16 by swansjack84

Sheehan called out Vipotnik in his conference by stating it was Cullens shirt to take. Why that needed Vipotnik to suddenly stand up who knows. I for one have been a supporter of him until recently. It seemed he was gone. Who knows the reason for Sheehan reaction. For me it's not being talked about how Sheehan has been able to man manage him and Ronald and improve them.
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That was scary enough.

Cullen is plainly not good enough as a striker. Never has been. Scored fewer goals last season from that position than Vipotnik. It's looking increasingly like his success in midfield was a flash in the pan too. Sheehan publically throwing his support behind him was a massive mistake, and based on his hapless display as a substitute on Saturday it's one Sheehan clearly hasn't completely learned from yet.

The only thing Sheehan has done is finally work out who his best available forward is. I could have told him that last season.

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Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 21:43 - Sep 16 with 1390 viewsonehunglow

It’s often pointed out Cullen was s rated by Bellamy
Frankly, Wales aren’t exactly blessed with quality forwards
He’s one who should have be loaned out or simply sold seasons ago
We can do better
He can’t

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Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 22:05 - Sep 16 with 1358 viewsFireboy2

Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 21:39 - Sep 16 by Dr_Winston

That was scary enough.

Cullen is plainly not good enough as a striker. Never has been. Scored fewer goals last season from that position than Vipotnik. It's looking increasingly like his success in midfield was a flash in the pan too. Sheehan publically throwing his support behind him was a massive mistake, and based on his hapless display as a substitute on Saturday it's one Sheehan clearly hasn't completely learned from yet.

The only thing Sheehan has done is finally work out who his best available forward is. I could have told him that last season.


As i have told you vip had plenty of minutes last season yet didnt shine, altough i agree with you re cullen, he isnt a striker and definitely isnt a defensive midfielder as was noted on Saturday (no idea what sheehan was thinking)

If cullen was picked in front of vip, especially last season, when he did quite well, that shows that vip wasnt upto scatch.

I suspect you will say sheehan was wrong then when we had our purple patch after he took over from williams, opinions eh 🤷
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Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 22:37 - Sep 16 with 1258 viewsFireboy2

Yes it was and yes he couldn't, thats my opinion.

There is no need to post what you have posted about me.
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Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 05:29 - Sep 17 with 1064 viewsKeithHaynes

Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 21:19 - Sep 16 by swansjack84

Sheehan called out Vipotnik in his conference by stating it was Cullens shirt to take. Why that needed Vipotnik to suddenly stand up who knows. I for one have been a supporter of him until recently. It seemed he was gone. Who knows the reason for Sheehan reaction. For me it's not being talked about how Sheehan has been able to man manage him and Ronald and improve them.
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They had a ‘discussion’ on the lead up to the Watford game.

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Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 05:31 - Sep 17 with 1052 viewsKeithHaynes

It’s only football chaps, have a discussion, no need to fall out, but no more shouty stuff, I’ve got a headache this morning.

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Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 05:59 - Sep 17 with 1022 viewsbuilthjack

Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 05:31 - Sep 17 by KeithHaynes

It’s only football chaps, have a discussion, no need to fall out, but no more shouty stuff, I’ve got a headache this morning.


Been on the pop ?

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Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 08:09 - Sep 17 with 959 viewsLandore_Jack

A striker playing with confidence. Well done lad!

#backtojack

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Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 09:04 - Sep 17 with 909 viewsjack247

Vipotnik has already had as many good games this season as he did last. There’s no sensible doubt he’s been a different animal since the Watford game.

I didn’t think he could do it. I’ll be really happy if he keeps proving me wrong. I’d rather eat humble pie and have the player we’ve had for the last few games than be right and have the player we had last season.
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Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 09:46 - Sep 17 with 837 viewsonehunglow

Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 09:04 - Sep 17 by jack247

Vipotnik has already had as many good games this season as he did last. There’s no sensible doubt he’s been a different animal since the Watford game.

I didn’t think he could do it. I’ll be really happy if he keeps proving me wrong. I’d rather eat humble pie and have the player we’ve had for the last few games than be right and have the player we had last season.


Absolutely
It is all about the club
Being proven “ wrong” is as irrelevant as being proven right
I wish some would grasp this
We all love this Bluddy club and it’s why we spend too much time on here

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Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 10:40 - Sep 17 with 780 viewsKeithHaynes

Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 05:59 - Sep 17 by builthjack

Been on the pop ?


Not unless I’ve changed my routine 😉

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Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 14:44 - Sep 17 with 613 viewsonehunglow

Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 10:40 - Sep 17 by KeithHaynes

Not unless I’ve changed my routine 😉


Whack him Bro

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Zân Vipotnik Transfer : Our March report on him leaving in the summer seems to on 22:14 - Sep 17 with 348 viewsReslovenSwan1

I remember watching a 22 years old Adebayor for Arsenal. He was Bambi on ice in his first season..He was getting ruthless criticism. Within 18 months he was a gowls scoring monster.

Piroe struggled 19-21 but kicked on at 22 at Swansea. Then there was useless Victor. ( "Never did anything for us") " How could we gave guessed he would turn out so well". Some do some do not.
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